Massimiliano Allegri (282 Viewers)

[Alin]

The current place in the standings is unacepptable and it can not continue this way, there are obviously crucial areas of the pitch where we do lack quality players capable of taking responsability but what we can at least do with what we got atm is to focus all attention on the basics such as working on ball control, running with the ball at their feet and most importantly plenty of shooting practice if we are to even score again more than one goal in a game... other weaker sides can create against us and make the most of their chances so why can't we do better with what we got? it seemed for a short while that we found some balance but that is long gone again... Perhaps it's a bit of both Allegri not having found the right formula or not having made the best choices in terms of starters and substitutions aswell as many of the players themselves lacking in quality and mentality to actually even be able to do more , but one thing for sure it's that something needs to change and improve and it needs to happen preferably much sooner rather than later, all things considered there's still no excuse in being outplayed by Verona and Sassuolo, even with the questionable quality of many of our players we still are levels above on every position than most of the teams we've been losing points against this season, not sure if it's a question of lacking sharpness or pressure taking it's toll but the state we are in atm is at an all time low and we need to wake up...

Everyone in the team must take responsability and get their shit together before it goes even more downhill from here, we might not be genuine Scudetto or CL contenders this year but what's left for us fans to do is continue to support and to ofc expect better in the future instead of just pushing both players and management further down in their misery despite knowing how easy it is atm to point at all the lack of proper planning and several mistakes in the recruitment policy that have as a result crippled the team to even get us to this low point, maybe the main optimistic part we can think of would be that if there were somehow any doubts that we got major weaknesses in this squad now we can be convinced that everyone whitin the club must be already very much aware of it and hopefully we will see some movement on the market starting as soon as from this January towards partially fixing certain flaws we are currently dealing with.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Didn’t pirlo have more points chalked up by this team last year? Dealt with more injuries too

Plus we are bottom half of the table with a whopping zero goal differential. Horrible shit. Pirlo’s side was better going forward.

 

[lgorTudor]

sussin frfr no cap

 

[Alin]

Perhaps criticism has never been as warranted as it its been this past week but we do need to remember that not all is done and dusted yet, even if we don't win much this yeah we could at the very least use it to lay down some solid foundations for the next one, assuming ofc if Allegri does manage to finish the season in charge which i think will likely be the case as long as he keeps us whitin reach of Top 4 and somehow comes up with a string of positive results from spring towards the very end of the season.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Didn’t pirlo have more points chalked up by this team last year? Dealt with more injuries too

Yes. Hating on Pirlo the manager is very fashionable but he did a decent job everything considered.


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[cimenk]

Yes. Hating on Pirlo the manager is very fashionable but he did a decent job everything considered.


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Pirlo play more attacking formation than Allegri. When we go to the end of the season, he can play Chiesa - Kulu as a winger against Bologna and Sassuolo (away) with Morata/Ronaldo-Dybala upfront.

Allegri tends to be more defensive with Rabiot as LM. Or when Chiesa-Berna as ST, he can play midfield full of CM+Cuadrado

I think we are a bit regressed compare to last season. I hope Allegri can work something with the team

 

[pavluska]

Max today making Pirlo look good like Trump made Bush look good

Pirlo we're sorry

 

[JuveE46]

Agree with Neddy on this one

 

[singus]

Even if you believe in Allegri or not. But after 3 difficult seasons with different coaches, and already having shitcanned his ass once. How is it not insane to give him (or any other) a 4 year contract? If he doesnt fix the problems quickly, the fuck can we do?

 

[kao_ray]

I'm 100% sure that Allegri will do good with our pathetic squad. He is the only thing that gives me hope in the long run.

 

[Mike-e-y]

Even if you believe in Allegri or not. But after 3 difficult seasons with different coaches, and already having shitcanned his ass once. How is it not insane to give him (or any other) a 4 year contract? If he doesnt fix the problems quickly, the fuck can we do?

Because for a change we actually need stability and to work towards a project again. Successful clubs don’t change manager every season (Chelsea probably the only exception here)

Allegri has done a bad job so far, no doubt. We’re doing a lot worse than I expected and we would be livid under pirlo. I think we have finally realised that the players are the ones that have the wrong mentality. Changing the managers won’t change that. We need to back our managers and mass clear out the players not with him

 

[singus]

Because for a change we actually need stability and to work towards a project again. Successful clubs don’t change manager every season (Chelsea probably the only exception here)

Allegri has done a bad job so far, no doubt. We’re doing a lot worse than I expected and we would be livid under pirlo. I think we have finally realised that the players are the ones that have the wrong mentality. Changing the managers won’t change that. We need to back our managers and mass clear out the players not with him

We disagree whether it is the players fault only, but thats not a surprise and its okay we disagree on this.

But regarding the contract length:
How is it an advantage to lock ourselves down with a manager when we have no idea how he will do, 2 years after already being disappointed with him and when our finances are fucked already. We could have given him a 1 or 2 year contract if he wanted the job and believed in his own quality. We can always extend his contract if he meets the expectations, heck, it could be in his contract. Its not like its the coaches who quit on us.

 

[Mike-e-y]

We disagree whether it is the players fault only, but thats not a surprise and its okay we disagree on this.

But regarding the contract length:
How is it an advantage to lock ourselves down with a manager when we have no idea how he will do, 2 years after already being disappointed with him and when our finances are fucked already. We could have given him a 1 or 2 year contract if he wanted the job and believed in his own quality. We can always extend his contract if he meets the expectations, heck, it could be in his contract. Its not like its the coaches who quit on us.

Im not saying it’s only the players fault. It’s the managers job to get the best out of their players and obviously at this moment in time this team is in a position where it is below the ability of the players. 4th is the best we can achieve so we are way below that. But there comes a point where we have to realise that a team is built by pieces that fit together and harmonise

I look at this squad and it’s a mishmash of players and roles that just don’t have a function. Our midfield: we have 6 CMs and none of them are ball winners, very few of them are creative. Our wings - we have no one that can play on the left and we have 2 quality right wingers in Cuads and Chiesa who we just can’t get on the pitch together. Our attack consists of Morata, a player that thrives on fast counters but we have a midfield that isn’t suited to that type of play. We have a Dybala that likes to drop into holes and occupy the deep spaces but because we can only attack down the right hand side he becomes completely isolated.

And Allegri deserves a 4 year contract, we should have complete faith in him, he won 5 league titles, 4 coppas and got us to 2 CL finals. If he’s not someone to build around then I don’t understand who would be

 

[kao_ray]

Im not saying it’s only the players fault. It’s the managers job to get the best out of their players and obviously at this moment in time this team is in a position where it is below the ability of the players. 4th is the best we can achieve so we are way below that. But there comes a point where we have to realise that a team is built by pieces that fit together and harmonise

I look at this squad and it’s a mishmash of players and roles that just don’t have a function. Our midfield: we have 6 CMs and none of them are ball winners, very few of them are creative. Our wings - we have no one that can play on the left and we have 2 quality right wingers in Cuads and Chiesa who we just can’t get on the pitch together. Our attack consists of Morata, a player that thrives on fast counters but we have a midfield that isn’t suited to that type of play. We have a Dybala that likes to drop into holes and occupy the deep spaces but because we can only attack down the right hand side he becomes completely isolated.

And Allegri deserves a 4 year contract, we should have complete faith in him, he won 5 league titles, 4 coppas and got us to 2 CL finals. If he’s not someone to build around then I don’t understand who would be

Where have you been my soulmate?

 

[DeviAngel]

Im not saying it’s only the players fault. It’s the managers job to get the best out of their players and obviously at this moment in time this team is in a position where it is below the ability of the players. 4th is the best we can achieve so we are way below that. But there comes a point where we have to realise that a team is built by pieces that fit together and harmonise

I look at this squad and it’s a mishmash of players and roles that just don’t have a function. Our midfield: we have 6 CMs and none of them are ball winners, very few of them are creative. Our wings - we have no one that can play on the left and we have 2 quality right wingers in Cuads and Chiesa who we just can’t get on the pitch together. Our attack consists of Morata, a player that thrives on fast counters but we have a midfield that isn’t suited to that type of play. We have a Dybala that likes to drop into holes and occupy the deep spaces but because we can only attack down the right hand side he becomes completely isolated.

And Allegri deserves a 4 year contract, we should have complete faith in him, he won 5 league titles, 4 coppas and got us to 2 CL finals. If he’s not someone to build around then I don’t understand who would be

 

[singus]

And Allegri deserves a 4 year contract, we should have complete faith in him, he won 5 league titles, 4 coppas and got us to 2 CL finals. If he’s not someone to build around then I don’t understand who would be

Deserves? Are you a fan of Juve or a fan of a person? We are not a charity organization. We sacked him for a reason I assume, the heavy decline started with him and he completely lost the players in the end. 2 years sabbatical later (whatever he has been doing), now he deserves 4 years salary at Juve, because of extending the winning streak started by Conte and getting close to CL (4-5 years ago).

This is the thinking and HR policy that has ruined the club as well, in my opinion. Giving out long and random contract extensions to fossils (who did something in the past).

 

[spurdo]

You simply cannot lose to the likes of Brescia, Sassuolo and Hellas with our squad no matter how bad you label some of these players. It's time to come to the agreement that Allegri is at fault for a lot of these performances. The fact that we have continually bad performances is up to the coach, because he cannot fire up the players to work together and perform. We also can't just point at the terrible player selection because Allegri definitely has some say over transfers. We are in mid-table yet should be competing for top spot.

 

[kao_ray]

Yeah, Allegri should massage Morata's balls to make him play better. F-ing loser this Max

 

[IliveForJuve]

Max is rusty from being on holiday for a couple of years. Hopefully, we haven't seen the best of him.

Even the greatest coaches lose their way

 

[spurdo]

Yeah, Allegri should massage Morata's balls to make him play better. F-ing loser this Max

He is on loan, it's very much up to him that he was extended. It's not like he is a terrible striker either, he scored or assisted 20 goals in Serie A last season and 14 in Atletico in around 25 performances. You cannot only point at the players for bad performances because there is someone who chooses the starting lineup and puts him over Kean or Kaio up top. It's also up to Allegri to choose the tactical set-up.