Massimiliano Allegri (235 Viewers)

[Ronn]

Ok, back on on soccer topic.

Now that Pjanic is in Turkish league, do you still think we should've signed him in summer?

Considering Ramsey and Arthur’s injuries, absolutely. Bentancur is not even Turkish league quality.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Agree. Are the players good enough or not? If not, why did you take the job. You're not Pirlo.

And it's also concerning because I still think he wants to recreate what he had before. It was never going to work, so he needs to adjust... like right now.

 

[Siamak]

Allegri: “In football you can never predict what will happen. In this moment in the league it has not gone well, despite the fact that the team has behaved well. Tomorrow we must be focused on #UCL. Bernardeschi had a knock on against Napoli. He felt pain in the knee, nothing serious so I preferred to leave him behind. Chiesa had a flexor problem. I preferred to leave them to work at home. Tomorrow it will be important to play a technical match and allow them a few inactive balls, because they are a very physical team. The matches must be faced with serenity and knowing what to improve regardless of the results. We have to keep working, sometimes things happen in football that you don't expect. Szczesny? he is an absolute top level goalkeeper and he plays tomorrow. De Ligt will also play. Kulusevski he is a guy who has important qualities, he must improve in managing the game. We are all responsible and in these moments we need an even greater sense of responsibility. We have to improve in many things, even in managing the moments of the match and pay attention to the small details that make the difference. Juventus must set itself the goal of entering the top eight in the first eight in #UCL , then from there you always have to play it.”

 

[Allegri_is_God]

Criticism of Allegri isn't allowed?

And no, I don't blame him for our defeat to Napoli. But like all coaches he will have to answer for our results.

Absolutely not!

 

[Xorim]

We need to start dropping the bitches who don't give 100, even if we have to use inferior players from the youth team (*cough* Fagioli *cough)

This is why players like Woj and AS have fallen off so badly. Complacency and no competition.

Assholes like Rabiot and Dybala stroll around the field giving minimal effort and keep getting rewarded with more playing time. That shit wouldn't happen under Cunte at least.

While not 100% sure about Dybala, who i still feel like he's trying, i agree with everything else.
There are no consequences. Drop someone wo doesn't perform. Put a u21 player or whatever there, at least for one or two games. Tell them to run their ass off. They will!

One thing that annoyed me from the day we hired Allegri is his "nice guy" mentality. After a shit game his press conferences and interviews are "yes, we saw progress. We have to work, but i am happy with my players"

Screw this. We were shit, players were shit. Say it. Change it.

I hope Allegri proves me wrong, i'd love it if his second stint works out, but i'm not optimistic.
He's probably one of the greatest tacticians out there, but he needs some assistant who bitchslaps the players and gets them to earn their money. Hire Mandzukic!

 

[Ronn]

Agree. Are the players good enough or not? If not, why did you take the job. You're not Pirlo.

Guaranteed job for 4 years? He did not work in past 2 years and taking the Juve job is not exactly high risk because of last 2 seasons. At least not as high risk as Madrid.
He’s shown to be adaptable in the past so there’s a glimmer of hope.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Guaranteed job for 4 years? He did not work in past 2 years and taking the Juve job is not exactly high risk because of last 2 seasons. At least not as high risk as Madrid.
He’s shown to be adaptable in the past so there’s a glimmer of hope.

Yeah I get that, but I don't want to hear any excuses about the players not being good enough.

I mean.. they aren't, but he took the job anyway so time to start working miracles.

 

[juve123]

Guaranteed job for 4 years? He did not work in past 2 years and taking the Juve job is not exactly high risk because of last 2 seasons. At least not as high risk as Madrid.
He’s shown to be adaptable in the past so there’s a glimmer of hope.

I don't know this looks like a transition year to me we extremely thin in depth godforbid if any injury happens to our strikers or defenders

 

[Ronn]

I don't know this looks like a transition year to me we extremely thin in depth godforbid if any injury happens to our strikers or defenders

There might be more than one transition year.

 

[juve123]

There might be more than one transition year.

Yes if we don't sign the right players next season especially with interesting list of possible free agents like kessie pogba Kamara brozovic etc Cherubini will definitely need to have more meetings to sign these players

 

[icemaη]

There might be more than one transition year.

Max this year. Beppe next year. Profit.

 

[GiocataGrande]

We need to start dropping the bitches who don't give 100, even if we have to use inferior players from the youth team (*cough* Fagioli *cough)

This is why players like Woj and AS have fallen off so badly. Complacency and no competition.

Assholes like Rabiot and Dybala stroll around the field giving minimal effort and keep getting rewarded with more playing time. That shit wouldn't happen under Cunte at least.

fully agreed: its a mentality issue more than anything else. Several players feel way too secure and comfortable. Offcourse it doesnt help that our squad is kinda meh, but what we are seeing now is unacceptable both in terms of effort and general quality

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many posters over here are trash tbh, with all due respect not just here but over all social media in fact but here they are more evident because you can track back the posts of each individual quite easily and you see right away a pattern… bunch of negativistic and butthurt crybabies that think of themselves as being some sort of experts and that are ready to shit all over the team or even cheer against it as long as they can prove or push forward some bs narrative of theirs.

everyone has some sort of a narrative they support tho right? its sort of normal as a fan. that said, some have more toxic agendas than others lol

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Max this year. Beppe next year. Profit.

collapse started with with these two.

 

[JCK]

collapse started with with these two.

What?

 

[s4tch]

What?

that's turk. he genuinely thinks that everyone here made a career by being at the right place at the right time by benefitting from conte's genius.

 

[Post Ironic]

that's turk. he genuinely thinks that everyone here made a career by being at the right place at the right time by benefitting from conte's genius.

Imagine thinking that the 2016-17 double plus CL final had anything to do with Conte. What an imbecile.

 

[Alin]

fully agreed: its a mentality issue more than anything else. Several players feel way too secure and comfortable. Offcourse it doesnt help that our squad is kinda meh, but what we are seeing now is unacceptable both in terms of effort and general quality

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everyone has some sort of a narrative they support tho right? its sort of normal as a fan. that said, some have more toxic agendas than others lol

i agree, and is very normal to like or dislike certain players or management personnel or to make constructive criticism but what i’m noticing recently and actually as far back as in the past few years is that this club and fans went from being us against them(as in against all the merdas or shitstirring media) straight to being Juventus supporters against other Juventus supporters and you get to read some trash talking about our own players, staff or the club itself on a regular basis with majority ready to freely shit on every player that does or says something they don’t like, in fact also actually finding something to complain and criticize about regardless of content or questionable truth to the respective story.

The amount and type of insults you see Juve fans throwing at Juventus as a club(including players-management-staff) is something you would normally expect to hear and see from rival fans and rival media… yet we see it more and more often on a Juve dedicated forum and social media pages.

What happened with us a.k.a Juventus against everyone else that hopes for our instant demise? Lately it’s been more like us against ourselfs and solely personal preferances and bs narrative on repeat over and over again. which is toxic and not helping at all in maintaining the club’s prestige and values.

 

[Hist]

Del Piero:
“Surely, the players are aware of the situation, the more experienced ones will play a key role, just as Allegri,”
“The problem is not the table, but the performances. Those with more personality must step up now.

Exactly, Allegri can't take all the blame, the experienced players need to step up, and need to know what wearing that Jersey means.

Well we finished 7th twice while many of Del Piero, Nedved, Trezguet and Buffon were around, and Chiello and co were young. Why didn't they step up then? Didn't they have personality?

"Del Neri/Ferrara/Zach cant take all the blame. The experienced players need to step up and know what wearing that Jersey means" Tell that to the players that stayed in Serie B instead of move to top clubs that wanted them.

Its multi-faceted for sure but the coach takes the majority of the blame. He has to figure out a way to make them click and get results. If he doesn't he gets the boot and rightfully so just like his predecessors.

 

[s4tch]

Imagine thinking that the 2016-17 double plus CL final had anything to do with Conte. What an imbecile.

i wouldn't call him an imbecile, and i genuinely enjoy reading some of his posts. but his general agenda (conte is god, everyone else is pure evil, unprofessional and only want to harm juve, including agnelli, marotta, allegri, and above all, the root of it all, elkann) is something i could not agree with.

first of all, the biggest issue with conte is not that he's a proven choker in the cl. it's not even his spineless character (some would call him a mercenary, he'd call himself a professional) or his love for 3-5-2. it's his reliability. he can't be relied on at all, you can't really build a 3-year project on him, because odds are he'll ignore his contract (talk about professional, ehh), throw a tantrum and leave in a year or two. and in this regard, it's not even worth discussing whether he's a better coach than sarri, pirlo or allegri. he never worked for juventus, he was just paid by exor. he always worked for himself. what a legend.

 

[Hist]

i wouldn't call him an imbecile, and i genuinely enjoy reading some of his posts. but his general agenda (conte is god, everyone else is pure evil, unprofessional and only want to harm juve, including agnelli, marotta, allegri, and above all, the root of it all, elkann) is something i could not agree with.

first of all, the biggest issue with conte is not that he's a proven choker in the cl. it's not even his spineless character (some would call him a mercenary, he'd call himself a professional) or his love for 3-5-2. it's his reliability. he can't be relied on at all, you can't really build a 3-year project on him, because odds are he'll ignore his contract (talk about professional, ehh), throw a tantrum and leave in a year or two. and in this regard, it's not even worth discussing whether he's a better coach than sarri, pirlo or allegri. he never worked for juventus, he was just paid by exor. he always worked for himself. what a legend.