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.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
82,842
I think style has played a big part in our domination. We've been able to change our style for those past eight seasons when needed which has made us unpredictable. The problem is that there are plenty of people on this forum that only understand and accept one particular style of football. Having said that this seem to be a common theme among your usual football fans.
I would attribute the domination to the squad depth consisting of simply more capable players than the competition in Italy. Coupled with Conte, Max coaching they were able to deploy and get the most out of even the Trashamoah's and Sturaro's.

So it's a mix of flexibility in style plus innately better, deeper squads
 

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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
51,816
We did need another mid, but Matuidi was a horrible choice IMO.

He doesn't have the ability to link up play, yet he frequently finds himself in the final third, messing up our attacks. I think that Matuidi is part of the reason behind Alex Sandro's decline. It's much easier to defend against a fullback who has no one to link up with.

In my opinion, what we needed in the summer of 2017 was a younger and more gifted midfielder; someone like Ramsey, Barella, Naby Keita, etc... someone who can run but also has some decent ability on the ball.

Matuidi was just a poor fit.
He wasnt a bad buy per se, imo if we bought him a year earlier when we were all over him, we would have beaten Madrid in the final. He wasnt the perfect fit, but still a useful tactical weapon. What really hurt us is the loss of Pogba and then the decline of Marchisio and Khedira a year after, and Matuidi alone was never gonna fix that. Just hope whoever the new coach is that he wont have the same problem
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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2017 was a stellar season for Sami and Sandro but their decline the following season has not stopped

It’s still in free fall


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MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
We would not have sacked Allegri if that was the case, he has a proven winning formula and has come close to conquering Europe on 2 occasions. It does not make sense to sack Allegri if we are only interested in results
Allegri was sacked *because* he did not produce results.

We signed Ronaldo and got battered by fucking Ajax. That is a big failure. You have to step back and look at it from the board's perspective. It's an unacceptable CL campaign. We even had CR7 pull us out of the fire against Atletico. It's like a hall pass for the coach.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Allegri was sacked *because* he did not produce results.

We signed Ronaldo and got battered by fucking Ajax. That is a big failure. You have to step back and look at it from the board's perspective. It's an unacceptable CL campaign. We even had CR7 pull us out of the fire against Atletico. It's like a hall pass for the coach.
Pretty much. Not to mention the underwhelming performances and negative enviroment around the team.

He had to be sacked. Ok, “mutual agreement”.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Allegri was sacked *because* he did not produce results.

We signed Ronaldo and got battered by fucking Ajax. That is a big failure. You have to step back and look at it from the board's perspective. It's an unacceptable CL campaign. We even had CR7 pull us out of the fire against Atletico. It's like a hall pass for the coach.
That may be the reason but it's not good enough. He had 4 good years and 1 disappointing one and he gets sacked? Who's going to sack the management for systematically destroying the best midfield in the world? He could've left us for dead last year and go to RM but he kept his word. He's far from only disappointment this year but he was always the scapegoat. He deserved to get another chance with a real midfield.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
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That may be the reason but it's not good enough. He had 4 good years and 1 disappointing one and he gets sacked? Who's going to sack the management for systematically destroying the best midfield in the world? He could've left us for dead last year and go to RM but he kept his word. He's far from only disappointment this year but he was always the scapegoat. He deserved to get another chance with a real midfield.
Well our board is always trying to stay ahead of the curve. They would rather sell a player one year too early than one year too late. They will change the coach when there is a clear negative trend, before we hit the iceberg.

I can't accept any excuses this year for Allegri. In the past, he has produced results above expectations but this year it was well below. You cannot lose to Ajax with the GOAT in your team, I don't care who is in midfield. By the way, it's not like he is left with Sturaro or something.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
That may be the reason but it's not good enough. He had 4 good years and 1 disappointing one and he gets sacked? Who's going to sack the management for systematically destroying the best midfield in the world? He could've left us for dead last year and go to RM but he kept his word. He's far from only disappointment this year but he was always the scapegoat. He deserved to get another chance with a real midfield.
Wait for Sarri to see what a disappointing year really means. Some our fans have become as bad as Madrid fans. They deserve no better than Del Neri.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Wait for Sarri to see what a disappointing year really means. Some our fans have become as bad as Madrid fans. They deserve no better than Del Neri.
It will be hard to be more disappointed than this year. The UCL was wide open and we had Ronaldo. We lost to Ajax and then Spurs with all those injuries wind up beating them.
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,684
Allegri was sacked *because* he did not produce results.

We signed Ronaldo and got battered by fucking Ajax. That is a big failure. You have to step back and look at it from the board's perspective. It's an unacceptable CL campaign. We even had CR7 pull us out of the fire against Atletico. It's like a hall pass for the coach.

We lost 4 times in the CL this season. I appreciate everything he's done but his time is clearly up.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
We lost 4 times in the CL this season. I appreciate everything he's done but his time is clearly up.
Both finalists barely made it out of their group. Pochettino lost the league to freakin Claudio Ranieri's Leicester and has never won shit in his life. Guardiola has failed 7 CL campaigns with more expensive and supposedly better teams than Juve. Yet, people are happy to replace Allegri, who overachieved so many times, after 1 average season.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Both finalists barely made it out of their group. Pochettino lost the league to freakin Claudio Ranieri's Leicester and has never won shit in his life. Guardiola has failed 7 CL campaigns with more expensive and supposedly better teams than Juve. Yet, people are happy to replace Allegri, who overachieved so many times, after 1 average season.
Pep is someone that attracts insane attention, its a marketing move. He will transform us to a team that will dominate possession in the oppositions half, but better pray to God he learns a thing or two about tactical flexibility in Italy, because the CL is much more about adapting from opponent to opponent than imposing your style on them, especially one that leaves so much space behind. That or we avoid Klopp esque teams at any cost
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Pep is someone that attracts insane attention, its a marketing move. He will transform us to a team that will dominate possession in the oppositions half, but better pray to God he learns a thing or two about tactical flexibility in Italy, because the CL is much more about adapting from opponent to opponent than imposing your style on them, especially one that leaves so much space behind. That or we avoid Klopp esque teams at any cost
Pep this year with Chiellini instead of Laporte and they win UCL :snoop:
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
Pep is someone that attracts insane attention, its a marketing move. He will transform us to a team that will dominate possession in the oppositions half, but better pray to God he learns a thing or two about tactical flexibility in Italy, because the CL is much more about adapting from opponent to opponent than imposing your style on them, especially one that leaves so much space behind. That or we avoid Klopp esque teams at any cost
So now we will pick managers based on marketing? :lol:

Not even Perez does that.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
Pep is someone that attracts insane attention, its a marketing move. He will transform us to a team that will dominate possession in the oppositions half, but better pray to God he learns a thing or two about tactical flexibility in Italy, because the [BOLD]CL is much more about adapting from opponent to opponent than imposing your style on them[/BOLD], especially one that leaves so much space behind. That or we avoid Klopp esque teams at any cost
That is exactly why Allegri is the best manager for us.
 

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