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This forum isn't some entity that is capable of putting words into people's mouths.
Whether it's "need to go backwards first to get to the next level" or ""need to be shit to become good" the point is the same. This isn't a scientific community (as your presence highlights and so does mine to be fair) where the citation and referencing policies are super strict and exact. Silly things can be said in multiple different ways, but they are still silly.
Whether it's "need to go backwards first to get to the next level" or ""need to be shit to become good" the point is the same. This isn't a scientific community (as your presence highlights and so does mine to be fair) where the citation and referencing policies are super strict and exact. Silly things can be said in multiple different ways, but they are still silly.
Anyone that comes into a club and changes tactics and systems will take time for the players to adjust and the manager to adjust to the players
It's common sense yet some people don't understand changing anything generally it's worse at the start before it gets better
I really don't know what the fuss is about here
It's common sense yet some people don't understand changing anything generally it's worse at the start before it gets better
I really don't know what the fuss is about here
The fuss is about that being untrue. Yes you have managers like Klopp, Sarri and Pep who have really strict ideas on how they think football should be played. Then you have other managers who are capable of getting results immediately because they are able to actually take functional teams and fine-tune them slowly into what they want them to be. For example we didn't become worse when Max replaced Conte, instead we went to the CL final and won the Serie A.
What you are describing is a weakness of the aforementioned managers. It's not actually a good thing that they need time. Your premise that change will make things worse at first is simply wrong. It can but it certainly isn't a build-in feature of change.
What you are describing is a weakness of the aforementioned managers. It's not actually a good thing that they need time. Your premise that change will make things worse at first is simply wrong. It can but it certainly isn't a build-in feature of change.
What a load of crap. The coaches described needs time to implement there ideas and give the team a certain identity. It might take a little while, but you create a playingstyle and adopt automatism in your game that is very helpfull in the future. What he said was correct, and not worth making a fuss about.
And exactly ZERO of those coaches have been better than Max in the last 5 years.
What he said could be true for teams who are growing stale, results are suffering etc and they decide to 'bottom out' in order to rebuild. For a team like Juventus it's ridiculous to even think we need that, let alone if we win the CL this year.
What he said could be true for teams who are growing stale, results are suffering etc and they decide to 'bottom out' in order to rebuild. For a team like Juventus it's ridiculous to even think we need that, let alone if we win the CL this year.
Exactly. There’s absolutely no reason for a team that is dominating domestically and (if we beat Ajax) in the last 4 of CL in 3 of the last 5 years to be taking steps backwards to potentially succeed with a pigheaded coach who has no ability to adapt. Absurd premise, and even worse to promote this idea in the hypothetical that we actually win CL this year.
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It’s also a load of crap that suffering to give this specific team a certain identity will pay off in the end and not just end up with us being worse off under a new coach, even a few years down the road. There is quite obviously no guarantee there.
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It’s also a load of crap that suffering to give this specific team a certain identity will pay off in the end and not just end up with us being worse off under a new coach, even a few years down the road. There is quite obviously no guarantee there.
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Offcourse there is no guarentee, but if a club choose to hire a coach like Sarri, Pep or Klopp, who will need time to implement their playing style, then that club should be willing to accept that the results could get worse at first and give the coach time to work.
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It is a lot easier to get things right instantly if you take over the by far best team in the league, than if you take over a Chelsea, City, Pool team which were struggeling already before they changed the coach.
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It is a lot easier to get things right instantly if you take over the by far best team in the league, than if you take over a Chelsea, City, Pool team which were struggeling already before they changed the coach.
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I don't think the management will opt to replace Allegri with a coach who would need time to introduce a completely new system. That's just too risky and seems like an expensive project.
We always opted for coaches who are pragmatic and can get the most out of the setup that we already have instead of inventing something new.
We always opted for coaches who are pragmatic and can get the most out of the setup that we already have instead of inventing something new.
