Massimiliano Allegri (221 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

I want an answer to this TBH.

The only one i can find is because of "experience" and "physical build" in khedira´s case, and Workload in Matuidi´s case.

If Allegri keeps fielding those 2 because the other options unbalance the midfield,,, (marchisio being too soft to play B2B , Betancur not ready, and sturaro shid) then well we need to simply upgrade those 2 hardcore and force allegri´s hand.

We will have to see next year.

We do need to upgrade. Bentancur, while looking like he has high potential, has been rather poor in his appearances for the most part, and makes a lot of clumsy and rash tackles. He's not a starter yet, but hopefully getting his first experience of European football and the training over the year has him ready to be a bigger part of the rotation next season. But 1 world class CM signing is necessary if we don't want to struggle in the mid again.

 

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[Fr3sh]

This was the first season for Costa and Berna and next year I expect them to be even better.

I think Max should give them more freedom to roam around in midfield and move Dybala closer to the goal. A quality signing in midfiled would also help.

Dybala can easily score 50 goals in a season if he's near the box.

But if next year he ends up returning all the time for the ball in the line with Rugani, Benatia, Chiellini..., then we'll waste a lot of talent upfront.

I don't know about Dybala scoring 50 goals in a season....but I do expect better next year as our new players will have gelled. BernaGuti to hold it down.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

True and I agree with most of it but I believe both Dybala and Higuain have the intelligence and pedigree to be that way if they were instructed to. I wouldn’t really want us to play tiki taka, I like plays to go somewhere.

Our passing is bad against any decent opponent that presses us, at some point you have to ask whether the problem is just Allegri himself.

Our midfield is an empty hole in a lot of games, but Max is the one who decides to start Khedira instead of Bentancur in most games.

Max can certainly do better on that aspect, players should play the way he wants them to. Look at the Premier League or Bundesliga, even the bottom half of table teams have a decent free flowing quick passing system. However I also agree with MikeM that if we had better talent things would just naturally
Happen. Most of the time that’s all you need: quality.

Agree 100%, We have 2 midfielders who can handle a ball, Pjanic and Bentancur (Hard to count a post surgery Marchisio), why one gets almost no playing time is beyond me. Especially when it’s been out weakest link, the mid.

 

[Hust]

Why are we still talking about beautiful or ugly game play when winning is all that really matters? We win. We win a lot.


fuck

 

[Post Ironic]

Why are we still talking about beautiful or ugly game play when winning is all that really matters? We win. We win a lot.


fuck

As I said...

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Ungrateful bitches everywhere.

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Seriously though, it's somewhat understandable when people bitch after a couple losses, or getting knocked out of a competition, or selling one of our best players in the summer, etc.

But it's quite disgusting seeing this faggotry appearing after we seal the scudetto over a ~90 point Napoli, and smash a historic rival in the Coppa Italia final 4-0 to complete our 4th straight domestic double.

People need to shut the fuck up and enjoy this historic achievement for a few days. Be grateful for what the team has achieved for once, instead of being miserable, whining bitches.

Come summer, they can go to town on the bitching again.

 

[Hust]

20 years from now Max won’t be remembered by 4 straight doubles, 2 CL finals and biggest part of a 7 year winning streak.

No.


He will be remembered for boring tactics.

Fuck

 

[Fr3sh]

Why are we still talking about beautiful or ugly game play when winning is all that really matters? We win. We win a lot.


fuck

truth be told greasy shady last minute 1-0 wins are my favorites specially when it's vs Inter, Meelan, Napoli, Fiorentina, Roma, etc

 

[dolph]

How long can we possibly continue to pretend that Higuain is the same as he was at Napoli? His physical and technical capabilities have dropped as he's aged. That is an unquestionable reality to me that I see with my eyes every match he plays.

He loses at least half the balls that go into his feet. How do you play attractive when your #9 can't even take a first touch.

A footballers technical level dont just drop all of a sudden. He has lost pace which means he is not as good as before, but his first touch is still very good.

He gets in trouble when he tries to drible or wants to protect the ball for to long. If that is a problem he has had all his career I really dont know, but I am sure that the limited movement around him does not help him in that regard.

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20 years from now Max won’t be remembered by 4 straight doubles, 2 CL finals and biggest part of a 7 year winning streak.

No.


He will be remembered for boring tactics.

$#@!

But we are not living 20 years from now, we are watching this shit were we cant string 3 passes together every week.

 

[icemaη]

We do need to upgrade. Bentancur, while looking like he has high potential, has been rather poor in his appearances for the most part, and makes a lot of clumsy and rash tackles. He's not a starter yet, but hopefully getting his first experience of European football and the training over the year has him ready to be a bigger part of the rotation next season. But 1 world class CM signing is necessary if we don't want to struggle in the mid again.

Bentancur was cack whenever he played in the first half of the season. Showed glimpses of talent followed by misplaced passes and stupid tackles. He did look better towards the end of the season, but saying he should have started a lot more is laughable.
I do expect a lot more from him next season.

 

[JuvePerSempre10]

Playing "attractive" football, the way most people most of us would describe it starts from the back. Fullbacks are very important in this. With our current fullbacks, this was a very difficult task, considering Cuadrado has been integrated as one late in the season and A.Sandro's form. Then, having Matuidi and Khedira in midfield doesn't help either. With Cuadrado as our main RB next season, and hopefully A.Sandro on the other side, and by replacing the holes in midfield, I am sure Allegri will be able to play more dominantly. Costa has been introduced slowly and wouldn't be for his injury, Bernardeschi would have been a starter in the second half of the season too. With these two fully integrated into our play, I am sure we will be able to play the football most of you guys would describe as attractive. The key is that we shouldn't sell either Dybala or Higuain (who despite criticism will deliver even more with a more dominant play)

I honestly get very annoyed by the criticism Allegri is getting for his type of play. The roster has been dismantled over the years and replaced by inferior players who don't fit in the system previously used. He needs to match the pieces, and he is somehow able to do so every single year. There is no coach on earth who could have achieved what he did the past four years and, wouldn't have been for our horrible home game and the referee, the changes were that he would have been in yet another CL final. With the current limitations of the squad and players starting that really shouldn't be close to a starting spot at his disposal, this would have been somewhat a small miracle. This year honestly has been a very strange year, with players in and out of form, players seemingly past their primes and I don't think you can blame Allegri on much of the roster selection. Let's be incredibly happy with what we performed this season, winning yet another double. Let the man do his job once more, and see whether this summer Marotta and co will deliver and give him the squad he deserves to fully challenge for the CL. If there is any proven coach out there who would be able to lift the trophy with this squad, it would be Allegri.

 

[campionesidd]

If we bring in a top midfielder, Alegri won't have any excuses for our style of play which can be uninspiring at times. However, given the current midfield and the horrific number of injuries we suffered this year, Allegri did an amazing job getting us here.

 

[icemaη]

If we bring in a top midfielder, Alegri won't have any excuses for our style of play which can be uninspiring at times. However, given the current midfield and the horrific number of injuries we suffered this year, Allegri did an amazing job getting us here.

If I've any complaint, it's that we still haven't fired the entire medical staff. There has been absolutely no continuity offered to Max or the team. One of the main issues I had with Bonucci leaving was that he was one of the rare ones who was available throughout the season. The rest of the team is on the hospital bed every other month or something.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

20 years from now Max won’t be remembered by 4 straight doubles, 2 CL finals and biggest part of a 7 year winning streak.

No.


He will be remembered for boring tactics.

Fuck

Notice how you said 2 CL finals and not 2 CL trophies?

We've been winning the Serie A a hundred times in a row because nobody has a squad like ours in Italy. Nobody. It's not about whether we play "boring" or they play attractive football... We're the best squad by far.

But maybe, just maybe what's stopping us from finally winning the CL is how we still haven't fixed the way we handle pressure when we face opponents of OUR caliber or higher. How we get completely lost and fail to string a couple of passes together. Isn't our goal always to improve? Because I do believe currently we're one of the biggest 4 teams in the world, easily.

We don't have Ronaldo and Messi, and I know more than anyone players at that level make all the difference on the big stage. But here's an idea... Remember Pirlo, Vidal and Marchisio (Pogba)? How about we aim to build another quality midfield like we used to have? We're pretty much good up front, and honestly our defenders are good enough, there aren't extraordinaire defenders in the world anymore anyway.

All in all, don't know about the other members but I can only speak for myself and I'm not critizing Allegri or saying playing beautiful is more important than winning. What I'm saying is this: buy QUALITY that can really affect for better the way we play.

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Oh and stop dismantling Allegri's team for fucks sake.

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Bentancur was cack whenever he played in the first half of the season. Showed glimpses of talent followed by misplaced passes and stupid tackles. He did look better towards the end of the season, but saying he should have started a lot more is laughable.
I do expect a lot more from him next season.

Laughable? Have you watched Matuidi and Khedira lately?

Bentancur is young and bound to make mistakes here and there, still seems to have more talent in one leg than them both. It's not just me saying, Allegri himself believes in the kid but again, Italians and youngsters we know the drill.

 

[Post Ironic]

Funny that Allegri is the only coach who has managed to knock out both Madrid and Barca over the last 4 years.

Stop dismantling his teams each summer, and improve them instead. Then he won't have to spend the first half of every season trying to figure out a new recipe for beating the team's that have better players than us. He beat Madrid in 14/15 and lost to Barca, had his team dismantled and rebuilt over the next 2 years... the culmination of that was smashing Barca and getting smashed by Madrid. So instead of building on that to challenge Madrid, he had multiple stars sold/given away again, to upgrade other positions. And yet he still managed to go toe-to-toe with Madrid, who are playing for a third straight CL title, only losing 4-3 over the 2 legs due to a 50/50 penalty awarded in the last minute of injury time.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Funny that Allegri is the only coach who has managed to knock out both Madrid and Barca over the last 4 years.

Stop dismantling his teams each summer, and improve them instead. Then he won't have to spend the first half of every season trying to figure out a new recipe for beating the team's that have better players than us. He beat Madrid in 14/15 and lost to Barca, had his team dismantled and rebuilt over the next 2 years... the culmination of that was smashing Barca and getting smashed by Madrid. So instead of building on that to challenge Madrid, he had multiple stars sold/given away again, to upgrade other positions. And yet he still managed to go toe-to-toe with Madrid, who are playing for a third straight CL title, only losing 4-3 over the 2 legs due to a 50/50 penalty awarded in the last minute of injury time.

Our board fucked him in the ass not once but twice and he still managed to salvage and make do with what he had. Gotta give him props for that. Now imagine what we could achieve by not selling our stars and bringing top quality, maybe then we’d finally have a happy ending in the CL.

I get sad seeing we’re linked to the likes of Bonaventura when we really need someone like Modric or at a similar level.

 

[Nedved96]

Although I agree that we should stop dismantling our team every year, Allegri is certainly not the only coach in the world who has to deal with this issue.

How many teams can consistently keep hold of their best players? I would say Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Bayern Munich. I would also add PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City.

The former clubs make more revenue than we do. The latter are owned by a rich suggerdaddy.

The rest suffer from the same problem we do, they have to sell their best players to one of these clubs mentioned above.

 

[ALC]

Funny that Allegri is the only coach who has managed to knock out both Madrid and Barca over the last 4 years.

Stop dismantling his teams each summer, and improve them instead. Then he won't have to spend the first half of every season trying to figure out a new recipe for beating the team's that have better players than us. He beat Madrid in 14/15 and lost to Barca, had his team dismantled and rebuilt over the next 2 years... the culmination of that was smashing Barca and getting smashed by Madrid. So instead of building on that to challenge Madrid, he had multiple stars sold/given away again, to upgrade other positions. And yet he still managed to go toe-to-toe with Madrid, who are playing for a third straight CL title, only losing 4-3 over the 2 legs due to a 50/50 penalty awarded in the last minute of injury time.

He had the team playing better than Madrid this year too and I guarantee we would've made the finals had we gone through. Some amateur mistakes from our defense and GK were the main reason we lost imo.

 

[Post Ironic]

Allegri and Simeone only get far better results than all the other coaches who have to deal with star player sales every year. Better results than most of the coaches who don't have to deal with star players being sold too.

 

[ALC]

Although I agree that we should stop dismantling our team every year, Allegri is certainly not the only coach in the world who has to deal with this issue.

How many teams can consistently keep hold of their best players? I would say Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Bayern Munich. I would also add PSG, Chelsea, and Manchester City.

The former clubs make more revenue than we do. The latter are owned by a rich suggerdaddy.

The rest suffer from the same problem we do, they have to sell their best players to one of these clubs mentioned above.

Look at those teams and tell me which ones have performed better than Juve recently. Juve is on their level performance wise ever since Allegri became coach yet is running with the mentality of teams below.

 

[_GGB_]

"Beautiful football" for me firstly is winning..

The SerieA is a marathon in a country with the most defensive orientated mindset in the WORLD

With that in mind we have scored just as many if not more goals as 2nd placed teams in all the biggest leagues in Europe this year, and same as Real Madrid in Spain but we have the best defence in all of Europe after letting go of 2 starters in Bonucci and Alves

The main way to improve on this is some personnel changes and thats if the club wants to spend $ . With what hes got Allegri has smashed it

To keep a team motivated and rotate a squad successfully during a season to manage 3 competitions is very difficult..

Give Allegri the credit hes due and enjoy the double for a 4 straight year