Massimiliano Allegri (283 Viewers)

[CrimsonianKing]

What about the "attractive football" Bayern played when they won the treble? Why are the only two choices "attractive and never win" or " ugly and trophys all day?"

There’s no such thing. People are just idiots to think we HAVE to play ugly to win.

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'Atrractive football" is overrated.. in Italy we have the 2nd best offence (1 goal behind Lazio) nearly 2.5 goals a game and the best defence..

I just care about winning.. Does anyone remember the attractive football of Arsenal under Wenger in past nonwinning years or do they remember the trophies Ferguson won in the same years

Keep Max, he knows how to win in Italy, a few changes & he can bring us the CL trophy

Hes done an excellent job.. we have blitzed Italian Football with UNPRECEDENTED DOMINANCE

Don’t be silly, there’s nothing overrated about mastering your craft. I don’t see the correlation of ugly football equals trophy, if anything it’s been the other way around most of the tome.

And what the hell are you talking about Ferguson’s team? His United back in the 90’s was one of the most technical teams around.

 

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[zizinho]

What about the "attractive football" Bayern played when they won the treble? Why are the only two choices "attractive and never win" or " ugly and trophys all day?"

we dont have the midfield to play attractive football. the best we can pull off is high pace counterattacking up and down footie, but good luck playing that against Serie A bunkers

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

There’s no such thing. People are just idiots to think we HAVE to play ugly to win.

I'm just really not understanding the argument going on here.

we dont have the midfield to play attractive football. the best we can pull off is high pace counterattacking up and down footie, but good luck playing that against Serie A bunkers

Oh I'm in agreement with you there, but I'm just not getting the suggested argument that it needs to be one or the other.

 

[zizinho]

I'm just really not understanding the argument going on here.



Oh I'm in agreement with you there, but I'm just not getting the suggested argument that it needs to be one or the other.

agree

i blame @Hist for that btw

 

[Cerval]

It's not about playing beautiful football, we just don't maximize our potential at the moment. If every players gave their 100% in terms of effort and more we'd be an even more amazing team

 

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Yes lets replace proven winner like General Maximus Allegri with Sarrismo football: because Sarri had another awesome Napoli season, where he couldnt get out of his CL group, crashed in EL and choked in Serie Awhen they should have been keeping the pressure on

I dont see whats so unbeautiful of what we achieved this year and the way we played.. the attack isnt perfect but still one of the best ever serie a teams with goals scored and our defence is solid as it has ever been with goals conceded

I really think Allegri is doing close to the best he can with what he has at his disposal.. hes lost some of the biggest names in world football during his tenure Tevez Pirlo Vidal Pogba Alves Bonucci etc etc and has still kept us winning and dominating in Italy

With this squad Allegri has i cant see any other coaches making us play much better

Zidane couldnt win his domestic league. Barca failed in Europe. Pep has only the domestic league to show for his dominant & $beautiful' City team .. Allegri winning the double again and being extremely unlucky in CL is a very good result in comparison to all these other genius coaches at the biggest clubs in the Europe

For one moment maybe our fans that are complaining should just be satisfied with what weve achieved (which continues to be unprecedented) and just enjoy & celebrate winning the double again 2018 ..

 

[ADP1897]

There’s no such thing. People are just idiots to think we HAVE to play ugly to win.

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Don’t be silly, there’s nothing overrated about mastering your craft. I don’t see the correlation of ugly football equals trophy, if anything it’s been the other way around most of the tome.

And what the hell are you talking about Ferguson’s team? His United back in the 90’s was one of the most technical teams around.

But Hist took it to another level, he want Max head. Allegri delivers, it's the most important thing, no?
Before his appointment, Juve was a 2nd fiddle team in CL, after his 1st season, Juve was suddenly became one of the continent powerhouse.

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[Amer]

This was the first season for Costa and Berna and next year I expect them to be even better.

I think Max should give them more freedom to roam around in midfield and move Dybala closer to the goal. A quality signing in midfiled would also help.

Dybala can easily score 50 goals in a season if he's near the box.

But if next year he ends up returning all the time for the ball in the line with Rugani, Benatia, Chiellini..., then we'll waste a lot of talent upfront.

 

[Hist]

But Hist took it to another level, he want Max head. Allegri delivers, it's the most important thing, no?
Before his appointment, Juve was a 2nd fiddle team in CL, after his 1st season, Juve was suddenly became one of the continent powerhouse.

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I am bored man. I work at the same time almost every Juve match is. I have to watch games after they are over knowing the score already. It has been painful and I ended up defaulting to the more convenient extended highlights as if Juve is just another team rather than my main club.

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agree

i blame @Hist for that btw

for what?

 

[ADP1897]

I am bored man. I work at the same time almost every Juve match is. I have to watch games after they are over knowing the score already. It has been painful and I ended up defaulting to the more convenient extended highlights as if Juve is just another team rather than my main club.

I sleep at the sametime almost every juve match is (2 am). I have to wake up to watch games and usually sleep before 2nd half done. It has been usual routine and i did need to watch highlight since i know youtube. Atleast we're winning, maybe next season Max will play more beautiful to please the neutrals.

And we're won when Max can't even decide his starting lineup and formation. So playing it safe is understandable imo. This season fix and tingkering It's on Beppe, if even Max couldn't figure it out, who can?

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There’s no such thing. People are just idiots to think we HAVE to play ugly to win.

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Don’t be silly, there’s nothing overrated about mastering your craft. I don’t see the correlation of ugly football equals trophy, if anything it’s been the other way around most of the tome.

And what the hell are you talking about Ferguson’s team? His United back in the 90’s was one of the most technical teams around.

Very few people are arguing that there is some necessity to us playing so-called "ugly football". It's just the way we played for large stretches this year. The football we played for the last 4-5 months once we moved to 4-3-1-2 last season was fantastic to watch. The football we played for the last 4-5 months down the stretch in 15-16 was fantastic to watch. The football we played for the last 4-5 months down the stretch in 14-15 was fantastic to watch.

So Max has had us playing fantastic football in the money part of the season in 3 of his 4 years. It's pretty obvious why he has to tinker for the first few months of the season when he is having some of our best and most important players sold each and every summer.

This year he never really found the right balance, and more importantly had struggles motivating the team. But the main reason we looked so bad at times had little to do with tactics and had much more to do with players being lazy/burnt out and careless on the pitch. In matches where we could hardly string a half-dozen passes together, playing a more attacking style wasn't go to make us better.

 

[MikeM]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

 

[Nedved96]

Our passing is bad against any decent opponent that presses us, at some point you have to ask whether the problem is just Allegri himself.

Our midfield is an empty hole in a lot of games, but Max is the one who decides to start Khedira instead of Bentancur in most games.

 

[ADP1897]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

You can only do so much with the player at your disposal.

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[Nedved96]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

You can only do so much with the player at your disposal.

Costa - Dybala - Bernardeschi
Matuidi - Bentancur - Pjanic​

This team is good enough to play quality football. We have enough technical ability. The problem is that Allegri insists on starting at least two of Khedira, Mandzukic and Higuain at all costs.

It's not like our opponents have better technical ability than we do. Apart from the 4 games against Real and Barca, we have spent the rest of the season playing inferior teams to our own.

 

[Xperd]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

You cant with the former three and as a result the latter two are suffering especially Dybala.

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Higuain was one touch and move player at Napoli. He just doesnt suit Juventus style of play. He's succeeded at Juve scoring 55 goals inspite of that.

 

[dolph]

Ugly or attractive depends entirely on the players you have. You simply cannot play attractive with Matuidi and Khedira. Neither with Mandzukic or even Dybala and Higuain. None of them are one touch and move, tiki taka players.

Marchisio, Bentancur, Bernardeschi is benched because of the three first mentioned players. Players who are all very technically gifted. And offcourse Dybala and Higuain is able to play one touch football. Higuain played the best football of hes career in Niples.

 

[MikeM]

How long can we possibly continue to pretend that Higuain is the same as he was at Napoli? His physical and technical capabilities have dropped as he's aged. That is an unquestionable reality to me that I see with my eyes every match he plays.

He loses at least half the balls that go into his feet. How do you play attractive when your #9 can't even take a first touch.

 

[Hydde]

Our passing is bad against any decent opponent that presses us, at some point you have to ask whether the problem is just Allegri himself.

Our midfield is an empty hole in a lot of games, but Max is the one who decides to start Khedira instead of Bentancur in most games.

I want an answer to this TBH.

The only one i can find is because of "experience" and "physical build" in khedira´s case, and Workload in Matuidi´s case.

If Allegri keeps fielding those 2 because the other options unbalance the midfield,,, (marchisio being too soft to play B2B , Betancur not ready, and sturaro shid) then well we need to simply upgrade those 2 hardcore and force allegri´s hand.

We will have to see next year.

 

[zizinho]

I am bored man. I work at the same time almost every Juve match is. I have to watch games after they are over knowing the score already. It has been painful and I ended up defaulting to the more convenient extended highlights as if Juve is just another team rather than my main club.

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for what?

for separating results and beautiful footie.