Massimiliano Allegri (246 Viewers)

[Fred]

It's not about his past results. Ofcourse everyone is grateful to the job he's done here but maybe he's at the end of the line and not able to motivate the players or himself anymore so it would be better to move on I guess. As I've said , staying 4 years at the same club these days will feel like an eternity. 3 seasons is usually the limit when you're at a top club nowadays.

He's at the end of the line? He reached the CL final 11 months ago

He then went on to lose two important players in defense, he went out to Real Madrid in the last minute to a soft penalty. Mind you he's also doing well in Serie A if you look at the points total, its Napoli that is punching well above their weight.

What I'm trying to say, is that you cannot expect him to reach the CL final every year, nobody can do that. You are setting extremely unrealistic expectations on Allegri if you think its the end of the line because of this season.

 

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[Xperd]

He's at the end of the line? He reached the CL final 11 months ago

He then went on to lose two important players in defense, he went out to Real Madrid in the last minute to a soft penalty. Mind you he's also doing well in Serie A if you look at the points total, its Napoli that is punching well above their weight.

What I'm trying to say, is that you cannot expect him to reach the CL final every year, nobody can do that. You are setting extremely unrealistic expectations on Allegri if you think its the end of the line because of this season.

I don't think I've had any unrealistic expectations. This team while getting results hasn't been playing all that well compared to recent seasons. It's not a question of whether Allegri has achieved the required objectives to continue here but if he himself is motivated enough to continue on. It's like the Conte scenario all over again. He dint feel he was motivated enough to continue here and he left but he did get the results.


Maybe this squad needs a fresh approach with new ideas to keep the motivation levels high even if it means having to sacrifice short term results but you're making it sound as though I want him gone because he's not getting us to another CL final.

 

[Seven]

He's at the end of the line? He reached the CL final 11 months ago

He then went on to lose two important players in defense, he went out to Real Madrid in the last minute to a soft penalty. Mind you he's also doing well in Serie A if you look at the points total, its Napoli that is punching well above their weight.

What I'm trying to say, is that you cannot expect him to reach the CL final every year, nobody can do that. You are setting extremely unrealistic expectations on Allegri if you think its the end of the line because of this season.

Our team in 2014-15 had Tevez, Pirlo, Morata, Vidal, Bonucci...

If you compare that team to what we have now the decline is obvious. You're right. Our roster is just weaker now.

 

[Salvo]

Our team in 2014-15 had Tevez, Pirlo, Morata, Vidal, Bonucci...

If you compare that team to what we have now the decline is obvious. You're right. Our roster is just weaker now.

Arguable

Our squad overall is better we just have no midfield grunt
Our bench is far deeper now, we have more attacking talent
Fullbacks are iffy I'll give you that

 

[Xperd]

See I don't want him gone but it won't be a sad situation if he left unless we're hiring guys like Roberto Mancini.

 

[Maddy]

Arguable

Our squad overall is better we just have no midfield grunt
Our bench is far deeper now, we have more attacking talent
Fullbacks are iffy I'll give you that

Our goalkeeper is weaker, our defense is weaker, our midfield is weaker. The team is weaker.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

You cant reach CL finals with a limited squad on a tight budget while playing offensive attractive football. You have to play defensively.






Oh wait.. Klopp did it twice.. with 2 different clubs.. and weaker squads... on tight budgets.

And in both those seasons Klopp finished 20+ points off first place in his league and won no trophies sooooooo.......

Also Dortmund 2012/13 is just as strong if not stronger than the current juventus

 

[RAMI-N]

He's at the end of the line? He reached the CL final 11 months ago

He then went on to lose two important players in defense, he went out to Real Madrid in the last minute to a soft penalty. Mind you he's also doing well in Serie A if you look at the points total, its Napoli that is punching well above their weight.

What I'm trying to say, is that you cannot expect him to reach the CL final every year, nobody can do that. You are setting extremely unrealistic expectations on Allegri if you think its the end of the line because of this season.

True, but I didn't like his approach to the Napoli game.

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Arguable

Our squad overall is better we just have no midfield grunt
Our bench is far deeper now, we have more attacking talent
Fullbacks are iffy I'll give you that

I don’t know why people ignore this fact.

We are literally weaker in every position just more depth in attack.

 

[Salvo]

I don’t know why people ignore this fact.

We are literally weaker in every position just more depth in attack.

Yet people are very happy to sell our strikers to get midfielders
Then in a year everyone will say why the hell did we sell strikers to get mids

 

[Seven]

Arguable

Our squad overall is better we just have no midfield grunt
Our bench is far deeper now, we have more attacking talent
Fullbacks are iffy I'll give you that

I really don't see a single position where we are stronger right now.

 

[Xperd]

I really don't see a single position where we are stronger right now.

Attack is much stronger. It's pretty obvious.

 

[juve123]

Attack is much stronger. It's pretty obvious.

Higuain dybala haven't developed an understanding between them like morata and tevez plus higuain and dybala choke in big matches

 

[Afghan_juventus]

Higuain dybala haven't developed an understanding between them like morata and tevez plus higuain and dybala choke in big matches

Yup also
Tevez> Dybala and Higuain

Not even close actually

 

[Xperd]

Higuain dybala haven't developed an understanding between them like morata and tevez plus higuain and dybala choke in big matches

Morata and Tevez formed a partnership for like 3 months.

Maybe Allegri hasn't able to figure out how to use his attack effectively. Plus injuries also doesn't help.

 

[juve123]

Yup also
Tevez> Dybala and Higuain

Not even close actually

Even morata he is most frustrating striker but he does turn for big European games

 

[Salvo]

Higuain dybala haven't developed an understanding between them like morata and tevez plus higuain and dybala choke in big matches

Tevez did sweet fuck all in the final, Morata was clutch

I'd choose Sandro over evra (when in form)
Higuain over Morata in general but that year he was amazing

Our midfield from the final was head and shoulders over our current
Our bench is much better now

My point is there is no point weakening our attack to strengthen the defence/ midfield

 

[juve123]

Morata and Tevez formed a partnership for like 3 months.

Maybe Allegri hasn't able to figure out how to use his attack effectively. Plus injuries also doesn't help.

Dybala does look a misfit we definitely need a quick striker in Europe it can make us a better counter attacking team

 

[Negan]

Tevez did sweet fuck all in the final, Morata was clutch

I'd choose Sandro over evra (when in form)
Higuain over Morata in general but that year he was amazing

Our midfield from the final was head and shoulders over our current
Our bench is much better now

My point is there is no point weakening our attack to strengthen the defence/ midfield

Morata's goal came directly from Tevez

Tevez made Morata look good setting him up for a few goals in that CL run

They both complimented each other, take Tevez out and Morata would not have looked as good

 

[Salvo]

Morata's goal came directly from Tevez

I distinctly remember that being his only dangerous passage of play
Vidal was all over the place too from what I remember