out now?


  • Total voters
    166
  • Poll closed .

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,722
you can lose to any team, even at home. we did it to udinese a couple of seasons ago and still won the championship.

but you can't lose AND not even try to win. we've been playing with minimal visible effort too many times this season, and while we got away with it against lazio, we shot ourselves in the foot this time. allegri needs a miracle as this team is low on motivation, and while the squad is deeper than ever, this team lacks class and true leaders. above all, that midfield is a blasphemy compared to anything we had during the last 7 seasons. (and it's on marotta.)

forza max, at least for these last 5 games.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
you can lose to any team, even at home. we did it to udinese a couple of seasons ago and still won the championship.

but you can't lose AND not even try to win. we've been playing with minimal visible effort too many times this season, and while we got away with it against lazio, we shot ourselves in the foot this time. allegri needs a miracle as this team is low on motivation, and while the squad is deeper than ever, this team lacks class and true leaders. above all, that midfield is a blasphemy compared to anything we had during the last 7 seasons. (and it's on marotta.)

forza max, at least for these last 5 games.
I don't give a fuck about Coppa Italia final, play 2nd team for all i care, just do whatever needs to be done in the 4 games that decide the Scudetto
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
I’m not buying the whole “our midfield is poor” excuse. Pjanic, Matuidi and Khedira have a combined 214 international caps between them. Khedira and Matuidi play for two of the most stacked national teams on the planet. Bentancur is already a starter for Uruguay at the age of 20.

Our midfield is not inferior to Napoli, who combine with the attack much better than we do.

The problem with this team is that we don’t even know how to pass properly. Napoli create good passing angles and pass forward (ahead of the man). Our players either pass straight at the man or behind him, and it slows down our entire attack. Napoli also have at least one man free in the opponents final third at all times. Our players have no idea how to move or how to create space.

This problem stems from the coach. I don’t think that Allegri is a particularly defensive coach. Allegri just doesn’t have a clue on how to attack like a team.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,332
I think Allegri is a very good coach but I think we need something different
There are some issues that I just cannot understand nor want to accept like the tactic we played Real in the first leg or the thing we make passes in defense only to be scared and lose the ball..
I think we need a change and we need a more attacking coach - No I dont care about "champagne" football - I just want our team to play a more attacking game especially against teams who are not as good
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
We are probably still gonna win but even if we didnt. No biggie its just 1 scudetto and we should soon rebound the next season.

This has been a poor season where we really only turned up for that one Madrid game (slightly exaggerating ofc). Another double would obviously be awesome but can cover the problems that we have. Ideal world is we win AND really investigate what the hell went wrong this season and how we can fix that so we are never this poor again.

We need to rediscover the passion and value of scudettos instead of expecting to sleepwalk to the scudetto like this. This season we are a bit complacent. And who wouldnt be after all those consecutive scudettos that were without a serious challenger.
I don't think we will win and I don't think we will rebound next season. We are up to a few seasons of drought now. It is going to take some time to rebuild a winning team.
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,388
Pussy tactics and football did not paid off?
I am shocked and I think so is Allegri

- - - Updated - - -



Title race?
Last night that race was over.
The title race was over when we drew to Crotone

- - - Updated - - -

Hamsik. and id actually take Jorginho over Allan. Koulibaly is also something we lack, strength and pace at the CB position. not sure if he would start over Chiellini-Benatia tho, but surely would over Howedes.

- - - Updated - - -



because he and TSilva were playing by themself. his supporting cast was a bunch of already retied 50 year olds and some mediocre players like Nocerino, Muntari, Boateng, Abate etc
Koulibaly is better than Chiellini, there I said it!

Best tweet I read today

How could Koulibaly jump for the corner when he has Higuain in his pocket.
 

pitbull

Senior Member
Jul 26, 2007
11,045
and watch Gattuso and Co. celebrate for a year? Fuck that. Go all in.
they can celebrate that Coppa as much as they want, didn't care about the SuperCoppa, won't care for the regular one, Scudetto >>> Coppa Italia, we should start all of Woj, Rugani, Bernardeschi, Bentancur, Marchisio, Cuadrado against Milan in that final
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
Blame Max all you want for last nights conservative approach(also for taking DC out which wasn't a smart move at all even tho bringing Mandzu on definitely was), losing Chiellini so early on wasnt really according to the script either but above everything else there's absolutely no excuse for the pathetic perfomances some 'crucial' players came up with last night, don't come here and tell me that is solely Allegri's fault we coudn't string 3 decent passes together(there were tougher games when our passing was way better btw), we were simply getting wrong the most basic of passes, imo that shit can't be teached or trained, our players crumbled under pressure when it mattered most and there's just no excuse for that, not even scapegoating the coach for it...

It's gonna be tougher than ever to win the scudetto now but atm nothing is done and dusted yet, hopefully this defeat might serve as a wake-up call at the right time, chances are slim but i'm convinced we can still do it, much will depend on how Max's gonna set up the team and how certain 'crucial' players will respond to it because we will nonetheless need a bare minimum of 10 points from the 4 games remaining.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
I'd play a 4-2-3-1 for the remaining games with Pjanic and Bentancur in midfield, Berna, Costa, and Cuads behind Dybala as a false 9, or Dybala instead of Berna in a more forward role supporting Mandzukic as the lone striker.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
33,722
...Allegri just doesn’t have a clue on how to attack like a team.


- - - Updated - - -

I don't give a fuck about Coppa Italia final, play 2nd team for all i care, just do whatever needs to be done in the 4 games that decide the Scudetto
i get it, but we're supposed to have 2 teams above milan's level, so it's a must to at least try to beat them. even if chiellini's injury is a big blow indeed.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
Blame Max all you want for last nights conservative approach(also for taking DC out wasn't a smart move at all even tho bringing Mandzu on definitely was), losing Chiellini so early on wasnt really according to the script either but above everything else there's absolutely no excuse for the pathetic perfomances some 'crucial' players came up with last night, don't come here and tell me that is solely Allegri's fault we coudn't string 3 decent passes together(there were tougher games when our passing was way better btw), we were simply getting wrong the most basic of passes, imo that $#@! can't be teached or trained, our players crumbled under pressure when it mattered most and there's just no excuse for that, not even scapegoating the coach for it...

It's gonna be tougher than ever to win the scudetto now but atm nothing is done and dusted yet, hopefully this defeat might serve as a wake-up call at the right time, chances are slim but i'm convinced we can still do it, much will depend on how Max's gonna set up the team and how certain 'crucial' players will respond to it because we will nonetheless need a bare minimum of 10 points from the 4 games remaining.
We have played like absolute shit all season. Offcourse injuries, key players being out of form, our GM selling/ giving away two key players has something to do with that, but you cant not put some blame on the coach. He continuesly play shitty players like Matuidi, Khedira, Sturaro over gifted players like Bentancur, Marchisio, Berna. We have no team identity, no recognisable attacking patterns, we cant keep possetion for 10 sec, there is no off the ball movement, we are entirely dependend on Costa or Dybala to pull something out of the hat.

I still think we are going to win the Scudetto, most of all because Nipples are also not in great form, but playing like absolutely horseshit for the majority of our games, is just not good enough. No other top teams in Europe would settle for this horrorshow we put on every game.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
I have to ask the people who vigorously defend Allegri if they've ever watched other teams play before. I have watched Napoli, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Manchester City and Liverpool play some stunning flowing football; then I watch us. We play like a relegation team half the time with our awful mispaced passing and comical build up play.

Read what neutrals (fans of clubs outside of italy) say about Juventus. They think we are boring and that our football is terrible to watch.

We are one of the biggest clubs in the world. We deserve better than this.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
I have to ask the people who vigorously defend Allegri if they've ever watched other teams play before. I have watched Napoli, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, Manchester City and Liverpool play some stunning flowing football; then I watch us. We play like a relegation team half the time with our awful mispaced passing and comical build up play.

Read what neutrals (fans of clubs outside of italy) say about Juventus. They think we are boring and that our football is terrible to watch.

We are one of the biggest clubs in the world. We deserve better than this.
We played good football most of last season. This season it has been terrible, though. In fact, our results are incredible considering how shit we play.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 182)