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I've said it before and I will say it again. Criticizing Allegri in this thread should be a bannable offense.


Don't know how anyone can question him. Absolutely scraped the best team in the world in their home stadium 3-0 after being dealt a grossly unfair deficit from the first leg. He deserves better.

There is no one better than him. MVP of the team for sure.
 

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Hopefully Max is fired up after this. Last year he had to ask himself if he had it in him and had taken the team as far as they can go. Hopefully this makes him want to win it with us even more.
 

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But we do need a good mercato to challenge against teams playing twelve men
:D

Well, we should know by now that at some point in the latter states of the CL we are going to face one of them. Need to take our chances and stop RESPECTING them. Go out for the kill like we did today.
 

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Hopefully Max is fired up after this. Last year he had to ask himself if he had it in him and had taken the team as far as they can go. Hopefully this makes him want to win it with us even more.
His European record really is incredible. Four seasons, reached two Champions League finals only to be undone by teams with vastly superior squads, was unlucky to go out against Bayern after a masterful performance at the Allianz and today he almost pulled off one of the most epic comebacks in football history against the best team in the world only to be outdone by UEFA favoring their pet team Real.

Sure we haven't won a CL title under him but it is because of him that we are genuine contenders year.
 
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I've said it before and I will say it again. Criticizing Allegri in this thread should be a bannable offense.


Don't know how anyone can question him. Absolutely scraped the best team in the world in their home stadium 3-0 after being dealt a grossly unfair deficit from the first leg. He deserves better.

There is no one better than him. MVP of the team for sure.


He's not the reason, but he did do some mistakes. In hindsight, we should have went for it after the 60th minute. Allegri also tends to sit back, and only pushes his players when things become urgent. He also feels gives top teams too much respect. After this tie I have been led to believe that Juve are better than Real Madrid, and we should treat it like this.
 

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He's not the reason, but he did do some mistakes. In hindsight, we should have went for it after the 60th minute. Allegri also tends to sit back, and only pushes his players when things become urgent. He also feels gives top teams too much respect. After this tie I have been led to believe that Juve are better than Real Madrid, and we should treat it like this.
man for man? In no way are we better than Real Madrid squadwise lol
 

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His European record really is incredible. Four seasons, reached two Champions League finals only to be undone by teams with vastly superior squads, was unlucky to go out against Bayern after a masterful performance at the Allianz and today he almost pulled off one of the most epic comebacks in football history against the best team in the world only to be outdone by UEFA favoring their pet team Real.

Sure we haven't won a CL title under him but it is because of him that we are genuine contenders year.
Sadly, history won't highlight that.
 
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man for man? In no way are we better than Real Madrid squadwise lol
Real have been hit and miss this season, look in the league standing and their game against Tottenham. You can argue that when we actually showed urgency, that we proved to be better. This appears to be a reoccurring mistake amongst this Juve side, we always leave things too late. Look at the Tottenham game for example, there is a sense of complacency. The fact that we beat this chumps 3 - 1 away when we showed up, will always make me regret the first game even more.
 

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Still it wasn't enough to go through but one of best performance
We will win it soon.

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Real have been hit and miss this season, look in the league standing and their game against Tottenham. You can argue that when we actually showed urgency, that we proved to be better. This appears to be a reoccurring mistake amongst this Juve side, we always leave things too late. Look at the Tottenham game for example, there is a sense of complacency. The fact that we beat this chumps 3 - 1 away when we showed up, will always make me regret the first game even more.
You can say that again.
 

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Real have been hit and miss this season, look in the league standing and their game against Tottenham. You can argue that when we actually showed urgency, that we proved to be better. This appears to be a reoccurring mistake amongst this Juve side, we always leave things too late. Look at the Tottenham game for example, there is a sense of complacency. The fact that we beat this chumps 3 - 1 away when we showed up, will always make me regret the first game even more.
Its not really so simple though as that though. We played how we did tonight partially because we had no other choice. There was a lack of pressure on us as nobody expected us to come even close to making a comeback so there was basically nothing to lose. We aren't going to be in a situation to play that way often.
 
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I said it after first leg. No way that game end 0:3 if Pjanic and Benatia played.

And we saw tonight.
You can argue that all three goals were needless, especially the second one.

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Its not really so simple though as that though. We played how we did tonight partially because we had no other choice. There was a lack of pressure on us as nobody expected us to come even close to making a comeback so there was basically nothing to lose. We aren't going to be in a situation to play that way often.

This is were I think Allegri is partially at fault though, a reoccurring habit of his is that his Juve team are only motivated when they are under pressure. He needs to change this somehow, the Tottenham game is a prime example as is this tie with Real Madrid. Heck even against Bayern, we sat back until we were 2-0 down before we came out of our shell to make it 2-2, and in the away leg we showed more passion. Allegri needs to fire up this Juve so that they can always have performances like tonight's from the get go, and not wait until we are 2-0 or 1-0 down. I cannot blame him though, because it would be implying that I expected us to beat Real Madrid 3-1 away.
 
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Legend. Should be given a Ferguson treatment. Give him the midfield he needs and he will deliver in this competition. His tactics were spot on, and, given how we seemed to be in perfect control, reserving 2 substitutes for extra time was a perfect move on paper to kill the tie off with some new energy. If it wasn't for the referee, he would have given us the biggest comback in football history with a squad that is far from balanced. This man deserves nothing but respect and people here should recognize that.
 

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Real have been hit and miss this season, look in the league standing and their game against Tottenham. You can argue that when we actually showed urgency, that we proved to be better. This appears to be a reoccurring mistake amongst this Juve side, we always leave things too late. Look at the Tottenham game for example, there is a sense of complacency. The fact that we beat this chumps 3 - 1 away when we showed up, will always make me regret the first game even more.
But Allegri had almost nothing to do with the disaster the first game turned into. It was 1-0 Madrid and we were controlling the flow of that game for 60 minutes, and then Buffon and Chiellini made a nightmare blunder, Dybala got absurdly sent off by the ref, and the team collapsed. That's not a coaching flaw, nor a tactical flaw. People keep talking about "individual brilliance" for our attack, but that first game was a nail biter, until ridiculous individual blunders and an absurd ref decision to send Dybala off. Add to that Cuadrado should have won a penalty for us late in the match, for a far clearer penalty than the one given today, and it's pretty fucking ridiculous to blame Allegri for the 3-0 scoreline.

Today, the most inane part was watching Ronaldo and Carvajal dive all over the pitch and not a single yellow card shown. :baus:

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I've said it before and I will say it again. Criticizing Allegri in this thread should be a bannable offense.


Don't know how anyone can question him. Absolutely scraped the best team in the world in their home stadium 3-0 after being dealt a grossly unfair deficit from the first leg. He deserves better.

There is no one better than him. MVP of the team for sure.
:agree:

Discussing mistakes he makes here and there, little flaws, etc... that's fine.

But it should be an immediate infraction when people say he should be fired and call him a clown, an idiot, a pussy, a coward, and all the other ridiculous names he's been called in this thread over the last year.
 

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