Massimiliano Allegri (762 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

No stop with this revisionism. No top club was willing to take a chance on him at that point in time. If he was such a reputed coach, he would've had offers from abroad but it dint arrive and Roma was the best he could aim for and even they preferred Rudi Garcia over him in the end.

We took a chance on him because we dint have any other viable options available at the time and luckily it worked out for us.

We brought the best out of him and exploited his potential. You can't spin it in any other way because it's the truth.

Abroad ? Oh nono. Lets remain realistic here. Italian coaches, who speak fuck all english, only go abroad when they got a huge reputation.


Like 3x scudetto Conte, Ancelotti, Capello. You need insane rep to be considered abroad.

Unless you take some relegation team like Ranieri and Mazzarri did.


We had several reputed options. And we picked Allegri. The speed at which it was concluded was proof this wasent some snap decision

 

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[pitbull]

Abroad ? Oh nono. Lets remain realistic here. Italian coaches, who speak fuck all english, only go abroad when they got a huge reputation.


Like 3x scudetto Conte, Ancelotti, Capello. You need insane rep to be considered abroad.

Unless you take some relegation team like Ranieri and Mazzarri did.


We had several reputed options. And we picked Allegri. The speed at which it was concluded was proof this wasent some snap decision

Like who? Which "reputed" coaches did he beat with his glorious reputation?

 

[Zacheryah]

Well rotation also is something a coach should take into account, no one is forcing clubs to go all in in all 3 competitions, it's not like they won CL or CI that season, they went far in both and ended empty handed. Juventus did have a lot lighter schedule, yet Conte still used a lot of reserves for CI matches and got further.

Allegri did a lot to help us win that first scudetto, he gifted us Pirlo, without him we couldn't have won it and their sour grape defeatist attitude after gol di Muntari was a big help too.

I don't hold him responsible for Milan falling to pieces after all the talent left the team, but in 11/12 he fucked up hard which affected his reputation.

Milan was stockpiling injuries during the end of the winter. They had Juve not far behind, whilst in the Cl against Barcelona and in the coppa.

A top team doesnt go like "lets fucking get knocked out". You go all the way in all competitions.


Rotation was simply not an option, as they were missing 6-7 keyplayers for months.


nah. Milan got fucked up by injuries and we could focus entirely on serie a.


It shows how strong we currently are when despite beeing in the same situation, no other team can keep up despite beeing in no other competitions

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Like who? Which "reputed" coaches did he beat with his glorious reputation?

Coaches found today at roma, milan, inter


Spaletti and Montella were on the list back then, and a third one i cant recall too.



These are the coaches you guys claim that clubs in italy would prefer over Allegri. And they did. Cause they are all shit and we got a glorious management

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He also lost crucial matches against the likes of Bologna and Fiorentina(at home). His team got owned by Amauri of all people.

Those two games arguably clinched us the scudetto.

We went through a period where we were drawing a whole host of games and Milan were failing to increase the gap each time.

Yeah, cause they were full of injuries and Zlatan picked up muscular overload injuries (small ones) which basically meant Milan had no forward in good shape left

 

[Xperd]

Abroad ? Oh nono. Lets remain realistic here. Italian coaches, who speak fuck all english, only go abroad when they got a huge reputation.


Like 3x scudetto Conte, Ancelotti, Capello. You need insane rep to be considered abroad.

Unless you take some relegation team like Ranieri and Mazzarri did.


We had several reputed options. And we picked Allegri. The speed at which it was concluded was proof this wasent some snap decision

Please name who those several reputed options were.... Because it was already July which reduced our scope in looking for a new manager.

We were heavily linked to Paulo Sousa and Montella at the time , two coaches who had done fuck all in their careers. It was easy to see why we would pick Allegri over him.

 

[Zacheryah]

Please name who those several reputed options were.... Because it was already July which reduced our scope in looking for a new manager.

We were heavily linked to Paulo Sousa and Montella at the time , two coaches who had done fuck all in their careers. It was easy to see why we would pick Allegri over him.

Ahh, yes Sousa


Montella, Spaletti, Sousa.


Yet Allegri was done in 2 houres. Obviously we had him on standby and the media made up names.

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I'm just saying here, Allegri wasent some "failed, burned coach". A top 5 club would have given him another shot at some point.



But Juventus ? Gifted the biggest team (by far) in italy ? Yeah that was above what one would expect at that point.


And Allegri is still gratefull from going from berlu inferno milan, to the biggest best supported team in europe with a competitive management.

 

[pitbull]

Ahh, yes Sousa


Montella, Spaletti, Sousa.


Yet Allegri was done in 2 houres. Obviously we had him on standby and the media made up names.

nice, 3 coaches who's trophy cabinet combined is Coppa, Supercoppa and Russian Premier League That just proves the point that while before Allegri was in the conversation with these guys and guys like Mancini, now, in 2017 Allegri is mentioned together with the very best in the world. if Real Madrid come looking for a coach say a season or two seasons from now they'll seriously consider Allegri. would they consider pre-Juve Allegri? no chance in hell, he's raised his stock tenfold with us.

 

[Zacheryah]

nice, 3 coaches who's trophy cabinet combined is Coppa, Supercoppa and Russian Premier League That just proves the point that while before Allegri was in the conversation with these guys and guys like Mancini, now, in 2017 Allegri is mentioned together with the very best in the world.

A burned coach is what i'd call Ferrara. Allegri wasent a burned coach.


Its typical however, how only juve saw the great ability this man had. Especially since the adaptability of Allegri is a massive asset in any team that sells 2 keyplayers each summer and adds 5 new faces.

 

[Xperd]

Milan was stockpiling injuries during the end of the winter. They had Juve not far behind, whilst in the Cl against Barcelona and in the coppa.

A top team doesnt go like "lets fucking get knocked out". You go all the way in all competitions.


Rotation was simply not an option, as they were missing 6-7 keyplayers for months.


nah. Milan got fucked up by injuries and we could focus entirely on serie a.


It shows how strong we currently are when despite beeing in the same situation, no other team can keep up despite beeing in no other competitions

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Coaches found today at roma, milan, inter


Spaletti and Montella were on the list back then, and a third one i cant recall too.



These are the coaches you guys claim that clubs in italy would prefer over Allegri. And they did. Cause they are all shit and we got a glorious management

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Yeah, cause they were full of injuries and Zlatan picked up muscular overload injuries (small ones) which basically meant Milan had no forward in good shape left

What ?

Ibra started(and scored ) in the game which they lost to Fiorentina. Ibra also started in the game which they bottled against Bologna. Heck, it was Ibra's best season statistically till date. No forward in good shape wtf.

How about you just admit Allegri had a hand in bottling the league to us in 2012 instead of making up things to suit your agenda ?

 

[Zacheryah]

What ?

Ibra started(and scored ) in the game which they lost to Fiorentina. Ibra also started in the game which they bottled against Bologna. Heck, it was Ibra's best season statistically till date. No forward in good shape wtf.

How about you just admit Allegri had a hand in bottling the league to us in 2012 instead of making up things to suit your agenda ?

Lets calm the fuck down for a moment, and not pretend we are some female with selective memory, thats also deliberately not seeing half of what i said....


Around Februari/March, Zlatan picked up some muscular over load injury. Much like Vucinic in some season picked up a lingering ancle tendinitis.

Like vucinic, Zlatan played through the injury, but his form dropped. He still scored goals, but not at the same rate. Eventually, 6-7 key injuries caught up with milan as zlatan stopped beeing able to bail them out every time



I know you dislike the insane praise for allegri and are truely hurt for the CL final. Thats okay. But stop blaming 2011/2012 on him. Yeah Milan lost that scudetto, but it was a mix of circumstances


i'm sure a male is capable of making this logical connection

 

[Xperd]

Allegri as a coach improved with us and thereby improved his stock thanks to great support from the management.

But Zach here is making it sound like we hired this renowned world class coach named Allegri who just had a minor blip in Milan. No its not the case.

Juventus improved him. And I'll go on to add he probably wouldn't have had the reputation he has today if not for us giving him in an opportunity in a really terrible moment in his career.

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Lets calm the fuck down for a moment, and not pretend we are some female with selective memory, thats also deliberately not seeing half of what i said....


Around Februari/March, Zlatan picked up some muscular over load injury. Much like Vucinic in some season picked up a lingering ancle tendinitis.

Like vucinic, Zlatan played through the injury, but his form dropped. He still scored goals, but not at the same rate. Eventually, 6-7 key injuries caught up with milan as zlatan stopped beeing able to bail them out every time



I know you dislike the insane praise for allegri and are truely hurt for the CL final. Thats okay. But stop blaming 2011/2012 on him. Yeah Milan lost that scudetto, but it was a mix of circumstances


i'm sure a male is capable of making this logical connection

Continue with your insults and exaggeration just because you don't agree with someone. Why do I bother arguing with you.

 

[Zacheryah]

Allegri as a coach improved with us and thereby improved his stock thanks to great support from the management.

But Zach here is making it sound like we hired this renowned world class coach named Allegri who just had a minor blip in Milan. No its not the case.

Juventus improved him. And I'll go on to add he probably wouldn't have had the reputation he has today if not for us giving him in an opportunity in a really terrible moment in his career.

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Continue with your insults and exaggeration just because you don't agree with someone. Why do I bother arguing with you.

I really dont like it when someone deliberately takes half what i said and twists it. If you do, i insult. I always do this. You know that tbh.

 

[Xperd]

I really dont like it when someone deliberately takes half what i said and twists it. If you do, i insult. I always do this. You know that tbh.

I dint twist anything. You said Zlatan had injury problems when I pointed about he had his best season in his career that year and was the by far the best player in the league along with Pirlo.

You on the other hand are just hunting down opinions you don't like to read, exaggerating things and insulting people because they don't share the same view as you. Now you are making up things saying i dislike the praise for Allegri when im merely giving my unbiased view here. Sorry but you have a habit of doing this.

 

[pitbull]

Lets calm the fuck down for a moment, and not pretend we are some female with selective memory, thats also deliberately not seeing half of what i said....

You're also deliberately ignoring other Allegri's faults in 11/12 apart from injury crisis like forcing Pirlo out or obsessively focusing on gol di Muntari for the second part of the season. You know why you're ignoring them? Because they don't suit your agenda and you clearly cant argue against them using latin words for muscles.

 

[Fr3sh]

we made him wc, without us he was all potential.

His point stands. We revived Allegri's career. He was not even a candidate for the coaching post of clubs like Roma or Napoli until we came calling and reignited his career. He was considered a 'risk' for any top coaching job and rightfully so.

we made him world class, prepared him for the wenger role at arsenal just like we prepared sandro for the ashley cole role at chelsea, pogba for the scholes/beckham role at man u, and vidal to conquer the world for bayern

#1 training ground

 

[pitbull]

we made him world class, prepared him for the wenger role at arsenal just like we prepared sandro for the ashley cole role at chelsea, pogba for the scholes/beckham role at man u, and vidal to conquer the world for bayern

#1 training ground

Wenger is not going anywhere, Arsenal feel he's the best option to win them important domestic and European trophies, haven't you heard?

 

[Zacheryah]

I dint twist anything. You said Zlatan had injury problems when I pointed about he had his best season in his career that year and was the by far the best player in the league along with Pirlo.

You on the other hand are just hunting down opinions you don't like to read, exaggerating things and insulting people because they don't share the same view as you. Now you are making up things saying i dislike the praise for Allegri when im merely giving my unbiased view here. Sorry but you have a habit of doing this.

Zlatan was injured and played through it. Just like vucinic did with his tendinitis. Just like Ronaldo did at real.


Zlatan just happens to be a great athlete that managed to play through it. He'd do well in strenght sports, where this trait is essential for long term progress

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You're also deliberately ignoring other Allegri's faults in 11/12 apart from injury crisis like forcing Pirlo out or obsessively focusing on gol di Muntari for the second part of the season. You know why you're ignoring them? Because they don't suit your agenda and you clearly cant argue against them using latin words for muscles.

Forcing Pirlo out was a major mistake. He admitted that btw.


Gol di Muntari was Allegri unable to cope with the pressure and enviroment Berlu created for him.



If anything, he learned quite alot on how to handle pressure from back then. And i'm certain we coach our coaches in those regards aswel

 

[JuveJay]

Obviously it's a mutual relationship. If you can succeed with Juventus then it massively improves your stock as a coach. When we signed Conte his stock was about the level of someone like Fabio Pecchia is now. We took a chance, it worked out perfectly and the rest is history.

Allegri's pedigree was above that because he had some years of top flight management and success behind him, but he needed rejuvenation and this one also came off very well.

 

[il brutto]

People tend to forget that Allegri had already won Panchina d'Oro in 2007–08 with Cagliari. His track-record is great apart from that last stretch of his Milan tenure.

 

[Zacheryah]

Obviously it's a mutual relationship. If you can succeed with Juventus then it massively improves your stock as a coach. When we signed Conte his stock was about the level of someone like Fabio Pecchia is now. We took a chance, it worked out perfectly and the rest is history.

Allegri's pedigree was above that because he had some years of top flight management and success behind him, but he needed rejuvenation and this one also came off very well.

I see what you did there

 

[Hydde]

We relaunched him to be honest.

He was deep in shid after milan sacked him. They were playing really bad and he looked like a clueless doofus. Those 4 goals from berardi were the end of a very very bad campaign.

The guy seemed to totally have lost it