Massimiliano Allegri (242 Viewers)

[zizinho]

No when did i say that? But look at youre own players in that match. You had what? 3-4 chances that should been scored on. Cant blame the refs for that, its youre players own faulth.

Heres the deal. Were talking Pep vs Allegri here, pitbull says our team was as good as Bayern and Allegri couldn't defeat Pep. My reply was that if we got one of the 6 50/50 calls (the most obvious one, Moratas goal) our way the outcome would be different. Pep is the coach that got helped way too much from 2009 till now

 

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[il brutto]

Sorry but this is so pathetic. Nearly like how Inter fans sound after a loss. The Morata goal is the only one i would say was a clear mistake that was a goal. About missing players - we coulnt play with our normal back four as Boateng and Martinez were out with injuries, the same for Benatia who only just got back and started the second match.

My point is just that its pathetic to cry about the referee. And it seems like people forget that we were the very superior side in the first 60-65 min in Turin, where you were the clearly superior side in the first 60-65 minuts in Munich. Just tired to see this "referee cost us the match" again and again. Its Inter mentality.

Inter mentality is creating conspiracies. Discussing refereeing calls in civilized matter is completely okay imo. Sometimes these calls go in your favor and sometimes they go against you, hopefully next time we meet the luck is on our side

It was a great tie by the way, probably the best in last years competition and such a rollercoaster ride for both sets of fans. Hard to think of many CL ties where the momentum has swung in such a big way for multiple times. We looked completely shit at the start at home and suddenly completely bossed you until you again gained complete control.

 

[BayernFan]

Pep's last season with Bayern was full of injuries and fans were furious about him playing half fit players. Several suffered a relapse because of it. Then he blamed it on Müller-Wohlfahrt and got him sacked.

Exactly, Dai. He rushed players back into play when they werent even half fit

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Inter mentality is creating conspiracies. Discussing refereeing calls in civilized matter is completely okay imo. Sometimes these calls go in your favor and sometimes they go against you, hopefully next time we meet the luck is on our side

It was a great tie by the way, probably the best in last years competition and such a rollercoaster ride for both sets of fans. Hard to think of many CL ties where the momentum has swung in such a big way for multiple times. We looked completely $#@! at the start at home and suddenly completely bossed you until you again gained complete control.

This is it. And i agree fully. It was great matches, cant remember the last time i saw things turn around like that in CL knockout games. Since those games my respect for Juventus also grew even more as its very rare to see another team giving Bayern Munich such a hard time at the Allianz Arena.

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Heres the deal. Were talking Pep vs Allegri here, pitbull says our team was as good as Bayern and Allegri couldn't defeat Pep. My reply was that if we got one of the 6 50/50 calls (the most obvious one, Moratas goal) our way the outcome would be different. Pep is the coach that got helped way too much from 2009 till now

Ah okay im sorry then. Misunderstood completly i see

 

[zizinho]

Pep's last season with Bayern was full of injuries and fans were furious about him playing half fit players. Several suffered a relapse because of it. Then he blamed it on Müller-Wohlfahrt and got him sacked.

I remember him getting that doc sacked. Guy wanted to play half fit players because he knew it was his last season there and wanted to drain the last bit of energy out of that team to win the CL. The doc obviously didnt want to let them play so Pep made him leave. Disapointed in Bayern that they had Peps side in that incident

 

[BayernFan]

I remember him getting that doc sacked. Guy wanted to play half fit players because he knew it was his last season there and wanted to drain the last bit of energy out of that team to win the CL. The doc obviously didnt want to let them play so Pep made him leave. Disapointed in Bayern that they had Peps side in that incident

It seems like Müller (the doctor) is one his way back. Reports in the media. And else i agree, they shouldnt let him go.

 

[zizinho]

It seems like Müller (the doctor) is one his way back. Reports in the media. And else i agree, they shouldnt let him go.

Good for Bayern if true. One of the best around imo

 

[BayernFan]

Good for Bayern if true. One of the best around imo

Definitely.

 

[pitbull]

Heres the deal. Were talking Pep vs Allegri here, pitbull says our team was as good as Bayern and Allegri couldn't defeat Pep. My reply was that if we got one of the 6 50/50 calls (the most obvious one, Moratas goal) our way the outcome would be different. Pep is the coach that got helped way too much from 2009 till now

even if the outcome would be different, Allegri still wouldn't have beaten Pep easily though, right? of course we could've and should've won that game, but so far Pep 1 Allegri 0, I don't care about injuries, 50/50 calls, Evra or our strikers fucking up, it's the victory that counts and that time it went Pep's way whether you have your conspiracy theories about UEFA helping Pep or not

 

[Post Ironic]

I didnt name coaches i want to replace Max tho (hes staying btw), dolph asked me who are good coaches to me if I consider pocchetino mediocre so i named a few

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Put Spalletti or Sarri in any team they will find a way to make the team work. Put Pep or Mou on any team they will find a way to make them underperform, and in Mous case, destroy the locker room too

Spalletti and Sarri have done fuck all compared to Pep and Mou. Neither of them have even coached a big team and you have absolutely no clue how they would do in terms of getting a top team filled with stars to perform.

Nor have they done anything particularly special at the clubs they have coached.

Pep performed at the necessary level at Bayern. He didn't exceed expectations, but he didn't massively underperform. That's just stupid. Two league titles by a mile, and two CL semifinals.

Perhaps Pep and Mou have had their tactics figured out now, Mou more so since he seems to have become a cancer in terms of club mentality. But I'll need to see more than a single poor season at City for that to be proved. And I despise both of them.

 

[LiquidPLP]

I hope the management sticks to Allegri. The only coaches I wouldn't mind after Allegri would be Simeone and Conte but both are impossible. Give Allegri a payrise + some new shining toys and he'll be happy. Hell, we're all about CL now so why not? The likes of Sarri and Spaletti lack something to coach here and I wouldn't want them. Instead of those two I'd probably rather to gamble on EDF who isn't that promising himself anymore it seems.

 

[BayernFan]

I hope the management sticks to Allegri. The only coaches I wouldn't mind after Allegri would be Simeone and Conte but both are impossible. Give Allegri a payrise + some new shining toys and he'll be happy. Hell, we're all about CL now so why not? The likes of Sarri and Spaletti lack something to coach here and I wouldn't want them. Instead of those two I'd probably rather to gamble on EDF who isn't that promising himself anymore it seems.

What about Ancelotti? I know he allready coached Juventus before but still.

 

[pitbull]

What about Ancelotti? I know he allready coached Juventus before but still.

I definitely would like to see how Ancelotti does here, the man is a CL expert, but I doubt he'd come here even if he was free from Bayern contract

 

[zizinho]

even if the outcome would be different, Allegri still wouldn't have beaten Pep easily though, right? of course we could've and should've won that game, but so far Pep 1 Allegri 0, I don't care about injuries, 50/50 calls, Evra or our strikers fucking up, it's the victory that counts and that time it went Pep's way whether you have your conspiracy theories about UEFA helping Pep or not

So youre just gonna ignore everything and pretend Pep outcoached Max. Great

 

[pitbull]

So youre just gonna ignore everything and pretend Pep outcoached Max. Great

his team beat our team. he didn't out coach, he won, that's what matters, not shiny tactics or pulling a rabbit out of the hat with late substitution, but winning

 

[zizinho]

Spalletti and Sarri have done fuck all compared to Pep and Mou. Neither of them have even coached a big team and you have absolutely no clue how they would do in terms of getting a top team filled with stars to perform.

Nor have they done anything particularly special at the clubs they have coached.

Pep performed at the necessary level at Bayern. He didn't exceed expectations, but he didn't massively underperform. That's just stupid. Two league titles by a mile, and two CL semifinals.

Perhaps Pep and Mou have had their tactics figured out now, Mou more so since he seems to have become a cancer in terms of club mentality. But I'll need to see more than a single poor season at City for that to be proved. And I despise both of them.

Pep didnt massively underperform but still underperformed. He was brought in to win a CL, had 3 tries and failed. Dortmund was raided of their best players so the BL wasnt that big of a threat. Also, you say Pep performed at the necessary level, did Sarri and Spalletti not perform at necessary levels in Roma/Napoli?

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his team beat our team.

I know

 

[Red]

Guardiola did out-do Allegri in the first leg.

 

[LiquidPLP]

What about Ancelotti? I know he allready coached Juventus before but still.

Ancelotti said he wouldn't coach Juve in the future. I can see him coming back to Milan or taking a job at Roma to finish off his career but not Juve.

Last time Ancelotti was here it didn't end too well and it seems he still holds a grudge about it. I simply don't consider him as a possible option. I rate him highly but I guess he doesn't have too many years left in himself either.

 

[BayernFan]

Ancelotti said he wouldn't coach Juve in the future. I can see him coming back to Milan or taking a job at Roma to finish off his career but not Juve.

Last time Ancelotti was here it didn't end too well and it seems he still holds a grudge about it. I simply don't consider him as a possible option. I rate him highly but I guess he doesn't have too many years left in himself either.

What went wrong between him and Juventus?

 

[Post Ironic]

Pep didnt massively underperform but still underperformed. He was brought in to win a CL, had 3 tries and failed. Dortmund was raided of their best players so the BL wasnt that big of a threat. Also, you say Pep performed at the necessary level, did Sarri and Spalletti not perform at necessary levels in Roma/Napoli?

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I know

You are ridiculous.

Spalletti and Sarri have massively lower expectations. A CL spot is all fine and dandy for their seasons to be considered a success. Sarri has no career to speak of thus far. Spalletti never managed to get Roma over the hump in Serie A yet.

Pep exceeded expectations at Barca. By far. And then met them at Bayern. 3 straight league titles, 2 of 3 For domestic cups, and 3 straight CL semifinals. A CL title requires some luck, as you should well know, being a Juve fan. He failed to deliver in 3 years, but kept Bayern in the SFs each year as one of the top contenders. While it isn't smashing success it certainly isn't underperforming ::

 

[Dostoevsky]

You are ridiculous.

Spalletti and Sarri have massively lower expectations. A CL spot is all fine and dandy for their seasons to be considered a success. Sarri has no career to speak of thus far. Spalletti never managed to get Roma over the hump in Serie A yet.

Pep exceeded expectations at Barca. By far. And then met them at Bayern. 3 straight league titles, 2 of 3 For domestic cups, and 3 straight CL semifinals. A CL title requires some luck, as you should well know, being a Juve fan. He failed to deliver in 3 years, but kept Bayern in the SFs each year as one of the top contenders. While it isn't smashing success it certainly isn't underperforming ::

They are winning Bundesliga with pretty much any coach. That's like saying PSG is a brilliant club cause they wipe floor with the French league each year.

Seeing their team I'd say they were underperforming cause they choked way too many times in Europe. Reaching semifinals for their standard is close to nothing, especially after winning everything with Heynckes. But you know what, that's the difference, Heynckes knew how to lead those players unlike the massivly overrated Pep who managed to win Bundesliga without any competition out there.