Massimiliano Allegri (234 Viewers)

[zizinho]

With no WC players to bail him out he'd be one of those coaches getting trashed 7:1 in the CL because he just can't give up on playing good looking (in his eyes) football. Arsenal style.

imagine Conte going to Bayern or PSG and playing the boring ass 352 he used in his last season here with all the attacking talent they have. thats exactly what Pep is doing all these years since leaving Barca. cant believe an underachiever like him is considered the best coach in the world by the majority of the football world

 

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[pitbull]

Uhhh he won the league with bayern @lgorTudor

If Max had the same team as Pep he'd beat him easily.

you're saying Juve last season lost to Bayern because our team was highly inferior? if we were on par Juve would have won easily, but since we weren't even close to being on par Pep actually managed to eliminate mighty Allegri?

 

[zizinho]

you're saying Juve last season lost to Bayern because our team was highly inferior? if we were on par Juve would have won easily, but since we weren't even close to being on par Pep actually managed to eliminate mighty Allegri?

we actually missed key players - Chiellini, Marchisio, Dybala. even then it took them 6 ref errors to beat us

Max > Pep

 

[pitbull]

like i said, Sarri is a more tactically strong coach and can adjust his game to different types of players and playing styles. not to say Pep cant do the same, but so far in his career he just refuses to let go of the tiki taka bs even if its not working, which makes him into just another klopp

Sarri has coached one decent team in his career ffs, it's way easier to do good with one team than with several, look at de Boer for example, a king at Ajax and a huge clown for Inter, until Sarri improves his resume (or at least coaches Napoli for several more seasons) he should stand in the beginner corner and not be compared with the big boys

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we actually missed key players - Chiellini, Marchisio, Dybala. even then it took them 6 ref errors to beat us

Max > Pep

isn't preparing team for the big games one of the biggest qualities of a coach though? many have questioned Allegri's fitness staff and high number of injuries his team has. and still, would you say that team wasn't on par with Bayern?

 

[DAiDEViL]

you're saying Juve last season lost to Bayern because our team was highly inferior? if we were on par Juve would have won easily, but since we weren't even close to being on par Pep actually managed to eliminate mighty Allegri?

So, if Evra didn't decide to fuck up in the last minute and we would have gone through, Max would be the better coach?

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Some are still blinded by the light that get's reflected by Pep's bald head.
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we actually missed key players - Chiellini, Marchisio, Dybala. even then it took them 6 ref errors to beat us

Max > Pep

Not sure if it were six, but it were more than enough. Morata goal for example.

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...it's way easier to do good with one team than with several

Pep agrees. Even easier if that team is Barca.

 

[BayernFan]

Hyperbole much eh?

He makes his CB's look like clowns. Benatia for example. Stones would not look like prime Nesta, but like a decent CB at least.

This. I cant count how many times i was shocked about how stupid Boateng and Benatia looked because of the high defensive line - Alaba too for that matter. For defenders he can be a nightmare, and i was really having a heartattack again and again in many matches.

That said hes good at making talents grow and show faith in them.

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we actually missed key players - Chiellini, Marchisio, Dybala. even then it took them 6 ref errors to beat us

Max > Pep

Lol dont go down to Inter level about the refs.

 

[zizinho]

Sarri has coached one decent team in his career ffs, it's way easier to do good with one team than with several, look at de Boer for example, a king at Ajax and a huge clown for Inter, until Sarri improves his resume (or at least coaches Napoli for several more seasons) he should stand in the beginner corner and not be compared with the big boys

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isn't preparing team for the big games one of the biggest qualities of a coach though? many have questioned Allegri's fitness staff and high number of injuries his team has. and still, would you say that team wasn't on par with Bayern?

Im talking about right now. Capello has achieved a lot more than Sarri in his career, same as Mancini and a bunch of other coaches. But what Sarri is doing with Napoli last 2 seasons is just great coaching. De Boer is tactically clueless so ofcourse hed fail at a miserable club like inter. Sarri is tactically much better and has the necessary skills to take over most teams in football right now and so atleast as good as the coach before him and improve a lot of them. Watch him once he leaves Napoli.

As for the game, if you go player by player we were close to Bayern at that time. We had a few problems though. Bonucci Barzagli partnership isnt as good as Bonucci Chiellini, they dont have the same chemistry. We played AS out of position to fit in all the good players we had at the moment in our starting XI. On top of that, we had some huge errors going their way, its not like we were outplayed and beaten by the superior team. Also having players fit has nothing to do with Coaching skills which is what im talking about

 

[pitbull]

So, if Evra didn't decide to fuck up in the last minute and we would have gone through, Max would be the better coach?

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Not sure if it were six, but it were more than enough. Morata goal for example.

Pep agrees. Even easier if that team is Barca.

If they switched places and Pep was in his 3rd season at Barca, zizinho would probably hail him as the tactical god, that's 3 times better than any other coach that ever lived.

I am not saying that or that is better, it just baffles me how can one claim that Allegri would beat Pep easily if they had the same team. They either must think that Juve is highly inferior to Bayern or must have their head up their ass.

 

[zizinho]

So, if Evra didn't decide to fuck up in the last minute and we would have gone through, Max would be the better coach?

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Some are still blinded by the light that get's reflected by Pep's bald head.
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Not sure if it were six, but it were more than enough. Morata goal for example.

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Pep agrees. Even easier if that team is Barca.

I remember Alex-444 (man i miss him) posting a pic with 6 ref mistakes. PK, offside goal and offensive Foul from Lewa in the Turin game, Morata goal, red card (or 2nd yellow) for someone and another detail i cant remember in the away game. Lets say 5 out of 6 werent mistakes, with one! call (the Morata goal) wed be the winners

 

[il brutto]

This has been by far the most ridiculous thread for the past 6 moths or so. First calling for Allegris head when being first in every single competition we're in and suggesting the Kloppos of the world as his replacement because Liverpool were on a good run. Then people buy in to these bullshit rumors about his departure and start debating who's better Sarri or Pep.

Someone could make a great book out of the quotes in this thread.

 

[pitbull]

Im talking about right now. Capello has achieved a lot more than Sarri in his career, same as Mancini and a bunch of other coaches. But what Sarri is doing with Napoli last 2 seasons is just great coaching. De Boer is tactically clueless so ofcourse hed fail at a miserable club like inter. Sarri is tactically much better and has the necessary skills to take over most teams in football right now and so atleast as good as the coach before him and improve a lot of them. Watch him once he leaves Napoli.

As for the game, if you go player by player we were close to Bayern at that time. We had a few problems though. Bonucci Barzagli partnership isnt as good as Bonucci Chiellini, they dont have the same chemistry. We played AS out of position to fit in all the good players we had at the moment in our starting XI. On top of that, we had some huge errors going their way, its not like we were outplayed and beaten by the superior team. Also having players fit has nothing to do with Coaching skills which is what im talking about

having players fit has a lot to do with the coaching skills, squad rotation and training methods is something a coach decides

 

[zizinho]

This. I cant count how many times i was shocked about how stupid Boateng and Benatia looked because of the high defensive line - Alaba too for that matter. For defenders he can be a nightmare, and i was really having a heartattack again and again in many matches.

That said hes good at making talents grow and show faith in them.

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Lol dont go down to Inter level about the refs.

Im not complaining actually, i know ref mistakes Happen all the time. Just pointing out with those 6 questionable calls the outcome would be different. The one call im still mad about is the penalty on Pogba in the CL final vs Barca, because I know if it happened on Suarez it would have been a clear as day PK

 

[BayernFan]

I remember Alex-444 (man i miss him) posting a pic with 6 ref mistakes. PK, offside goal and offensive Foul from Lewa in the Turin game, Morata goal, red card (or 2nd yellow) for someone and another detail i cant remember in the away game. Lets say 5 out of 6 werent mistakes, with one! call (the Morata goal) wed be the winners

Sorry but this is so pathetic. Nearly like how Inter fans sound after a loss. The Morata goal is the only one i would say was a clear mistake that was a goal. About missing players - we coulnt play with our normal back four as Boateng and Martinez were out with injuries, the same for Benatia who only just got back and started the second match.

My point is just that its pathetic to cry about the referee. And it seems like people forget that we were the very superior side in the first 60-65 min in Turin, where you were the clearly superior side in the first 60-65 minuts in Munich. Just tired to see this "referee cost us the match" again and again. Its Inter mentality.

 

[zizinho]

having players fit has a lot to do with the coaching skills, squad rotation and training methods is something a coach decides

Allegri rotates players just enough for them to stay fresh. As for training methods, we dont know what he does in training, but last season was one off when we had players injured all the time and could happen to anyone.

 

[BayernFan]

Im not complaining actually, i know ref mistakes Happen all the time. Just pointing out with those 6 questionable calls the outcome would be different. The one call im still mad about is the penalty on Pogba in the CL final vs Barca, because I know if it happened on Suarez it would have been a clear as day PK

Ah you didnt only talk about the Bayern - Juve matches? My apologize then.

 

[zizinho]

Sorry but this is so pathetic. Nearly like how Inter fans sound after a loss. The Morata goal is the only one i would say was a clear mistake that was a goal. About missing players - we coulnt play with our normal back four as Boateng and Martinez were out with injuries, the same for Benatia who only just got back and started the second match.

My point is just that its pathetic to cry about the referee, sorry to say. And it seems like people forget that we were the very superior side in the first 60-65 min in Turin, where you were the clearly superior side in the first 60-65 minuts in Munich. Just tired to see this "referee cost us the match" again and again. Its Inter mentality sorry to say.

So if the Morata goal was given, you think Bayern would win?

 

[pitbull]

Allegri rotates players just enough for them to stay fresh. As for training methods, we dont know what he does in training, but last season was one off when we had players injured all the time and could happen to anyone.

what about the start of this season or 2011/12 at Milan? second off, third off? it's one of his biggest flaws imo

 

[BayernFan]

So if the Morata goal was given, you think Bayern would win?

No when did i say that? But look at youre own players in that match. You had what? 3-4 chances that should been scored on. Cant blame the refs for that, its youre players own faulth.

 

[zizinho]

what about the start of this season or 2011/12 at Milan? second off, third off?

Was it as bad as our last season? No. You act like were the only team thats has players injured

 

[DAiDEViL]

Pep's last season with Bayern was full of injuries and fans were furious about him playing half fit players. Several suffered a relapse because of it. Then he blamed it on Müller-Wohlfahrt and got him sacked.