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WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
14,997
you mean, we got what we deserved
You mean a WC coach who's decisions are not to be questioned and who's wrong choice or pussy unnecessary defensive attitude was evident before the match and you tried to be a smart ass and defend him because everyone other than the coach is an armchair expert and then you say "Allegri learned a lot" which sounds like "Amauri helped his friends" and then you say we played for a draw and got a draw and add to it that the result was unlucky but then you also say we got the result we deserved which means Juventus deserves a draw and a WC coach deserves a draw so when you said everyone other than a coach according to you is a armchair expert and you trust the coach so you saying you put your faith in him to get you a draw? You loved the draw didnt you? Did you celebrate it?

Isnt it simply easier not to pretend to be smart every single time and just have an argument for the sake of it? It's laughable "I prefer Evra's experience to Alex Sandro". We play with arguably the best defenders in europe with Barza-Kong-Bonucci and still you are convinced and try to ridicule other posters when they say Sandro deserves to start ahead of Evra because playing at home against a shit team like Sevilla with the three best defenders in the world and defense minded mid consisting of Lemina and Asamoah was not enough, then you made it dumber but saying it because of Evra's experience.

Brilliant :lol2:
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
You mean a WC coach who's decisions are not to be questioned and who's wrong choice or pussy unnecessary defensive attitude was evident before the match and you tried to be a smart ass and defend him because everyone other than the coach is an armchair expert and then you say "Allegri learned a lot" which sounds like "Amauri helped his friends" and then you say we played for a draw and got a draw and add to it that the result was unlucky but then you also say we got the result we deserved which means Juventus deserves a draw and a WC coach deserves a draw so when you said everyone other than a coach according to you is a armchair expert and you trust the coach so you saying you put your faith in him to get you a draw? You loved the draw didnt you? Did you celebrate it?

Isnt it simply easier not to pretend to be smart every single time and just have an argument for the sake of it? It's laughable "I prefer Evra's experience to Alex Sandro". We play with arguably the best defenders in europe with Barza-Kong-Bonucci and still you are convinced and try to ridicule other posters when they say Sandro deserves to start ahead of Evra because playing at home against a shit team like Sevilla with the three best defenders in the world and defense minded mid consisting of Lemina and Asamoah was not enough, then you made it dumber but saying it because of Evra's experience.

Brilliant :lol2:

Since you have trouble reading, i'll repeat that i'm a big Sandro fan, not sure how you missed that in all those years but perhaps you are getting a bit old ? Certainly you have seen the various discussions.
Anyway, i said i understood his decision. Not that i would do the same. I'd always start Sandro, but there is a difference between thinking "the coach is wrong" and "he has a different viewpoint, fine"

I'm not mad at you or anything. We have several elderly people here who tend to miss stuff, or forget. Its okay really.


Allegri was gambeling on fielding an ultra defensive formation and hoped Higuain would convert half a chance and then set up shop, for which Evra is rather well suited.

The gamble didnt pay off. And he learned alot about what works and doesnt work in europe with the group of players he has this year.



If Higuain would have scored that chance that went onto the crossbar, no one would have talked about this game.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
Since you have trouble reading, i'll repeat that i'm a big Sandro fan, not sure how you missed that in all those years but perhaps you are getting a bit old ? Certainly you have seen the various discussions.
Anyway, i said i understood his decision. Not that i would do the same. I'd always start Sandro, but there is a difference between thinking "the coach is wrong" and "he has a different viewpoint, fine"

I'm not mad at you or anything. We have several elderly people here who tend to miss stuff, or forget. Its okay really.


Allegri was gambeling on fielding an ultra defensive formation and hoped Higuain would convert half a chance and then set up shop, for which Evra is rather well suited.

The gamble didnt pay off. And he learned alot about what works and doesnt work in europe with the group of players he has this year.



If Higuain would have scored that chance that went onto the crossbar, no one would have talked about this game.
I'm with you on this. I ain't peed off with the lineup but what I am peed off is the late subs. Clearly he needs to learn to put a game changer on in at half time or much earlier especially in a game where sevilla played incredibly well.
 

Catenaccio

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2002
3,363
I must say. Evra only really makes sense as a left back in a back 4. Don't see him offering much offensively as a wing back. I hope in the champions league we use a back 4 and have this formation when Marchisio returns:

Khedira----Marchisio-----Pjanic

-------Dybala--------Pjaca------

--------------Higuain------------
 

WΏΏdy?

Senior Member
Dec 23, 2005
14,997
Since you have trouble reading, i'll repeat that i'm a big Sandro fan, not sure how you missed that in all those years but perhaps you are getting a bit old ? Certainly you have seen the various discussions.
Anyway, i said i understood his decision. Not that i would do the same. I'd always start Sandro, but there is a difference between thinking "the coach is wrong" and "he has a different viewpoint, fine"

I'm not mad at you or anything. We have several elderly people here who tend to miss stuff, or forget. Its okay really.


Allegri was gambeling on fielding an ultra defensive formation and hoped Higuain would convert half a chance and then set up shop, for which Evra is rather well suited.

The gamble didnt pay off. And he learned alot about what works and doesnt work in europe with the group of players he has this year.



If Higuain would have scored that chance that went onto the crossbar, no one would have talked about this game.
Ok, i will try to understand the coach, like we did with Amauri when his intention was right when he simply screwed up and helped his friends.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I'm with you on this. I ain't peed off with the lineup but what I am peed off is the late subs. Clearly he needs to learn to put a game changer on in at half time or much earlier especially in a game where sevilla played incredibly well.
Press is severely ripping into him. He was apparently irritated at the press conference. He has a point about everyone labelling us huge favorites, which we are not we are a dangerous contender, but outright favorites requires you to be succesfull in it, which we havent been for quite a while.


But if he gambles and the press ripps into him about benching pjanic and sandro not working, well, part of the job.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,470
I must say. Evra only really makes sense as a left back in a back 4. Don't see him offering much offensively as a wing back. I hope in the champions league we use a back 4 and have this formation when Marchisio returns:

Khedira----Marchisio-----Pjanic

-------Dybala--------Pjaca------

--------------Higuain------------
lol
don’t give me the Pjanic is Pogba’s replacement.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
I must say. Evra only really makes sense as a left back in a back 4. Don't see him offering much offensively as a wing back. I hope in the champions league we use a back 4 and have this formation when Marchisio returns:

Khedira----Marchisio-----Pjanic

-------Dybala--------Pjaca------

--------------Higuain------------
:agree:
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Ok, i will try to understand the coach, like we did with Amauri when his intention was right when he simply screwed up and helped his friends.
Stop beeing an ass faggot. Before the game the only change was Evra. Which would normally make sense if we would go for a blitzstart and expect to lead the game and prefer an experienced LB that can play close to the CB's, instead of Sandro who is more likely to give a way a penalty.


He decided he wanted to gamble. Good for him, i'm not a fan of that approach. It didnt work, so now he can enjoy the press ripping him untill we are topping the group.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
Your right we gotta be careful with the pressure. Clearly we saw plenty of that. You know when the team is playing under pressure when you see barzagli incredibly frustrated. We are building ourselves up too much but why? Just because of higuain? We should set expectations of semi at most. We took on our toughest opponent but the players couldn't pass for shit and couldn't tackle for shit either. We did curb, but at this rate were up for an upset waiting to happen. Fucking press need to fuck off.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Your right we gotta be careful with the pressure. Clearly we saw plenty of that. You know when the team is playing under pressure when you see barzagli incredibly frustrated. We are building ourselves up too much but why? Just because of higuain? We should set expectations of semi at most. We took on our toughest opponent but the players couldn't pass for shit and couldn't tackle for shit either. We did curb, but at this rate were up for an upset waiting to happen. Fucking press need to fuck off.
Interesting.


Allegri said a few times prior to this game how the press should stop labeling us huge favorites and how it is affecting players badly.
Well, how to get players feet back onto the ground better then drawing the first home game ?



Press does need to fuck off about favorites and stuff. But they can completely trash Allegri when he makes a bad gamble imo.
 

Siamak

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Aug 13, 2013
18,470
pjanic scored a goal and played very well against sassuolo. why he chenged the formation which we started against sassuolo! Always change the winning team.
 

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