Massimiliano Allegri (224 Viewers)

[edgardavids2608]

How about after having 4 starters out he was still out coaching the best coach in the world right now in public opinion who had a better team on the field.

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

3 minutes left, you have Rugani on the bench, opponent side is doing nothing but sending crosses after crosses into your box and you replace cuadrado with pereyra Conte, Allegri, Prandelli are absolutely pathetic coaches when it comes to subs

 

[ElApache]

3 minutes left, you have Rugani on the bench, opponent side is doing nothing but sending crosses after crosses into your box and you replace cuadrado with pereyra Conte, Allegri, Prandelli are absolutely pathetic coaches when it comes to subs

Please name a few coaches who you think are great with subs.


I don't think I've come across a fan who thinks his team's current coach is great with subs.

 

[Hist]

3 minutes left, you have Rugani on the bench, opponent side is doing nothing but sending crosses after crosses into your box and you replace cuadrado with pereyra Conte, Allegri, Prandelli are absolutely pathetic coaches when it comes to subs

The guy overturned countless results using his subs. In the home game, morata and sturaro made the comback, both of which were subs. In our last Serie A game, Lemina came in and scored the goal. These are two examples literally from the 2 games prior to Bayern match. There are more but that would take some research because I have a crap memory.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

The guy overturned countless results using his subs. In the home game, morata and sturaro made the comback, both of which were subs. In our last Serie A game, Lemina came in and scored the goal. These are two examples literally from the 2 games prior to Bayern match. There are more but that would take some research because I have a crap memory.

WAT We were up 1-0 against Atalanta when Lemina came in, how can you call it "overturned"?

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Please name a few coaches who you think are great with subs.


I don't think I've come across a fan who thinks his team's current coach is great with subs.

Jose.

 

[DAiDEViL]

you're welcome.

...Now it’s one thing having all this depth. Using it effectively is another entirely and this is another fine facet to Allegri’s coaching where he distinguishes himself as outstanding in his field. Consistently he has revealed himself to be incredibly astute at reading the game, assessing exactly what is required and taking the right action to affect the game from the bench. Since Allegri became coach of the Old Lady 18 months ago, 25 of her league goals have arrived from his substitutions. To elaborate further, 14 have been scored and 11 were assisted by players who came on. That is a quite remarkable total and it has played a big role in making Juventus contenders again this season.

The turning point in their campaign is widely regard as the defeat to Sassuolo and the dramatic late victory in the Derby della Mole that followed. Allegri brought on Alex Sandro for Dybala in the 87th minute. He then set up Juan Cuadrado in stoppage time for a momentum shifting and mood-changing winner. Juventus haven’t looked back since taking 52 points from the 54 available.

However, Allegri’s ability to turn a game with his changes has perhaps never been more pronounced than in the last month. Zaza is arguably the symbol of them. He has come off the bench and hit the net three times in the league this season. The most important - and without doubt the pivotal moment in the title race up until now - was his 88th minute strike against Napoli in Turin which clinched a huge win and sent Juventus top of the table for the first time this season. The Old Lady’s Super Sub was averaging a goal every 79 minutes at the time.

Allegri then did it again to rescue Juventus’ Round of 16 tie with Bayern. 2-0 down at home, he sent on Morata and Sturaro and they combined for the equaliser. On Sunday even the lesser-spotted Lemina got in on the act. He replaced Sami Khedira in Bergamo and scored an excellent solo goal that put Atalanta definitively to the sword, the perfect response to Napoli returning to winning ways against Chievo the night before.

Allegri downplays his knack for reading the tea leaves of a football match. He admits luck is involved. But when it happens so often, it speaks to his intelligence, intuition and a trust of one’s gut. Tactical shrewdness and instruction aside, you have to credit Allegri’s man-management too. It’s not easy to keep players on the periphery happy and motivated...

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Lol except Sturaro's and Zaza's goals there we no more goals that turned any match around, even against first match against Torino Cuadrado came in because of Khedira received early injury and Juan produced goal + assist

 

[Vlad]

What about Sandro in the same match that assisted Cuad for the winning goal after coming on?

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Also do you recall game vs Chievo in the first part of the season, Cuad coming on and getting a penalty call at the end of game?

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Probably more examples that I could think of just now.

 

[Osman]

3 minutes left, you have Rugani on the bench, opponent side is doing nothing but sending crosses after crosses into your box and you replace cuadrado with pereyra Conte, Allegri, Prandelli are absolutely pathetic coaches when it comes to subs

So your idea was that a team thats already playing too defensive in last 20 mins with 5 defenders back there, to take out an attacking winger for 4th CB (Evra was basically CB then). And him not doing this is a critique you find reasonable?


Everyone would gone APESHIT if Rugani came on for an attacker at that point.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

So your idea was that a team thats already playing too defensive in last 20 mins with 5 defenders back there, to take out an attacking winger for 4th CB (Evra was basically CB then). And him not doing this is a critique you find reasonable?


Everyone would gone APESHIT if Rugani came on for an attacker at that point.

No, replace evra with Rugani, he was exhausted as hell and gifted 2 goals to Bayern

 

[Osman]

It was 2-0 at the time and one of the rare part of the team you dont touch is the defence aslong as things are going as planned, mess with the organisation or unit late into game is not recommended. And when they scored quickly, last thing you needed then was defensive subs. Not that it mattered, we already had made our 3 subs by then.


How about we just settle for Evra fucked up and that it was a mistake to sub out Morata? besides that there's no real reason to nitpick. Our bench wasnt just good enough really.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

It was 2-0 at the time and one of the rare part of the team you dont touch is the defence aslong as things are going as planned, mess with the organisation or unit late into game is not recommended. And when they scored quickly, last thing you needed then was defensive subs. Not that it mattered, we already had made our 3 subs by then.


How about we just settle for Evra fucked up and that it was a mistake to sub out Morata? besides that there's no real reason to nitpick. Our bench wasnt just good enough really.

It was a mistake not to use a last sub on defender to prevent Bayern to score from crosses

 

[Osman]

Because Barzagli and Bonucci usually are such liabilities? It was positioning issues more then heading ability. I Rugani would been a lost puppy out there in a game wouldn't have time to get used to.


But hey its much easier to be the armchair coaching expert 3 days after the game instead of on the thick of it.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Because Barzagli and Bonucci usually are such liabilities? It was positioning issues more then heading ability. I Rugani would been a lost puppy out there in a game wouldn't have time to get used to.


But hey its much easier to be the armchair coaching expert 3 days after the game instead of on the thick of it.

Allegri's subs ruined his own gameplan, what more can i say, 24% possession is absolutely unacceptable, look how far from their own post defending line of Bayern started to play when Mandzukic and Pereyra came in, Rugani's sub was no-brainer and any coach would do that, it's very obvious thing, more obvious than use Sturaro with injured finger that didn't let him to play on 100% and absolutely out of form and out of position Pereyra, he even asked him to play as 2nd forward in the ET ffs

 

[Osman]

I agree with the Mandzukic sub was completely miscalculated, and Pereyra and Sturaro was uninspiring but Khedira and Cuadrado were dead tired so what can you expect him to do?


But the Rugani idea is just rubbish and another example of you saying nonsense just to be contranian. If Rugani had come in you would bitched about some other random player.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

I agree with the Mandzukic sub was completely miscalculated, and Pereyra and Sturaro was uninspiring but Khedira and Cuadrado were dead tired so what can you expect him to do?


But the Rugani idea is just rubbish and another example of you saying nonsense just to be contranian. If Rugani had come in you would bitched about some other random player.

Cuadrado wasn't dead tired, Rugani would help us a lot against headers since our defenders were not able to properly man mark Muller and Lewandowski, team like Juventus can't let to opponent side to score from crosses, that's just they way it is, Bonucci lost Lewandowski, Barzagli lost Muller, that's why 1 more cd would help us a lot

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2 horrible childish mistakes by our 2 main alive defenders because of their poor man marking

 

[Osman]

And Rugani would do better because??


Being extra body is not enough for games like this.

And you complained about low possession but want an attacking player off for Rugani.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

And Rugani would do better because??


Being extra body is not enough for games like this.

And you complained about low possession but want an attacking player off for Rugani.

I said that i wanted him for the last 3 minutes as last sub instead of Pereya<->Cuadrado switch

 

[il brutto]

Allegri's subs ruined his own gameplan, what more can i say, 24% possession is absolutely unacceptable, look how far from their own post defending line of Bayern started to play when Mandzukic and Pereyra came in, Rugani's sub was no-brainer and any coach would do that, it's very obvious thing, more obvious than use Sturaro with injured finger that didn't let him to play on 100% and absolutely out of form and out of position Pereyra, he even asked him to play as 2nd forward in the ET ffs

So think we would have had more possession if Rugani game in instead of Pereyra?

You are really clutching at straws here. As Osman said only Morata -> Mandzukic sub was questionable.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

So think we would have had more possession if Rugani game in instead of Pereyra?

You are really clutching at straws here. As Osman said only Morata -> Mandzukic sub was questionable.

For possession it should have been team talk, don't shut the ball whenever you can, try to counter attack them, there were a lot of empty zones since many bayern's players were attacking us, instead all our players were doing nothing but kicking the ball away, aas for Rugani i said as the last sub, i didn't connect his sub with better possession, enough with this bullshit ffs