Massimiliano Allegri (810 Viewers)

[Amer]

Allegri is delusional, he believes we played a good match.

We can comfort ourselves as much as we want, the fact is Gladbach almost murdered us in the first half, our defence and midfiled were non-existent.

Our coach makes provincial teams look world-class, we're clueless, we let other teams come to us and walk into our penalty area.

We should prepare ourselves for a season without a trophy, there's no doubt about it for me now.

 

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[pitbull]

The thing that is lacking the most is man managament skills from Allegri, Conte woul uave kicked the team in the ass 10 times even before the season started, I dont think Allegri will ever be able to do that, maybe only with the help from our champions, although some of them like Chiellini and Mandzukic need a kick themselves.

 

[icemaη]

Thank God Beppe addressed the creating chances problem with Hernanes, Cuadrado and no sub for our 40M SS.

who is technically not even an SS. Remember Cronios complaining we just signed more SSs all the time? I wish we had that luxury now.

 

[Klin]

who is technically not even an SS. Remember Cronios complaining we just signed more SSs all the time? I wish we had that luxury now.

Yep, but he was our Tevez replacement.

 

[Azzurri7]

Would a better coach had played Hernanes though? He's been terrible every single time and we played like we had 10 guys on the pitch with him on it. Yet Allegri had no issues putting him on the starting lineup because...Marotta wants his signing to look good I guess?

Starting Hernanes would be his only mistake IMO. Marotta wants his signing to look good? Then blame Marotta and not Allegri.

id rather be naive and stupid than believe the above, allegri brilliant in setting a team with no clear plan with confidence as low as the sank titanic, we have to rely on players shitting moments of magic, what brilliance what bravado

Correct me if I am wrong but you wouldn't even praise Allegri had he won the treble last year so forgive me but I wont take your posts about Allegri very serious.

If any of you thinks or thought that the team wouldn't be struggling with too many new faces "50% of the team" then the Allegri dilemma is personal and nothing else.

It's one thing to have too many new faces world class and it's another too have too many new faces with probably only one world class player.

If there is anyone to blame then blame the management behind the transfer saga and not the Coach.

Allegri has done his job and his part in CL, and lets not kid ourselves, this group on papers was the toughest group and the chances are still high that Allegri finishes first in the group and yet some of you are not satisfied. I can bet my life that the same people criticizing Allegri now would be defending Conte in his places had he finished 3rd or 4th in this very same group.

Whoever wanted the team to go all out attack after Hernanes red card is/are delusional, the players themselves wanted a draw, Allegri wanted a point, I wanted a point for one reason and that is to secure the qualification as soon as possible and it's almost there. What more could I or you ask for?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Starting Hernanes would be his only mistake IMO. Marotta wants his signing to look good? Then blame Marotta and not Allegri.





Correct me if I am wrong but you wouldn't even praise Allegri had he won the treble last year so forgive me but I wont take your posts about Allegri very serious.

If any of you thinks or thought that the team wouldn't be struggling with too many new faces "50% of the team" then the Allegri dilemma is personal and nothing else.

It's one thing to have too many new faces world class and it's another too have too many new faces with probably only one world class player.

If there is anyone to blame then blame the management behind the transfer saga and not the Coach.

Allegri has done his job and his part in CL, and lets not kid ourselves, this group on papers was the toughest group and the chances are still high that Allegri finishes first in the group and yet some of you are not satisfied. I can bet my life that the same people criticizing Allegri now would be defending Conte in his places had he finished 3rd or 4th in this very same group.

Whoever wanted the team to go all out attack after Hernanes red card is/are delusional, the players themselves wanted a draw, Allegri wanted a point, I wanted a point for one reason and that is to secure the qualification as soon as possible and it's almost there. What more could I or you ask for?

thanks for further proving my point

 

[donpiero]

What I would really like to know is why our players keep bumping into each other all the time, why do they keep getting in the way of each others' passes, why is there so many aimless passes, why so many wrong passes? We're one-third into the season and there's no sign of chemistry at sight. I put the blame for these directly on the coach.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

We have 8 pts out of 4 games in what is arguably the strongest group in this year's CL and as far as this competition is concerned I find very few reasons to complain. Serie A though... But I sense we will start getting string of good results there as well.

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I sense irony is strong here.

Do you admit you were wrong for slating Max last year?

theres no irony more like it struck a chord with some of you

http://www.juventuz.com/threads/40977-Massimiliano-Allegri?p=4932742&viewfull=1#post4932742

 

[Azzurri7]

Then what's the point jumping at him even when he's not at fault tactically? Individuals like Chiellini and Hernanes could have costed the team last night but Allegri did his job.

I don't understand some critics.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Then what's the point jumping at him even when he's not at fault tactically? Individuals like Chiellini and Hernanes could have costed the team last night but Allegri did his job.

I don't understand some critics.

are you serious, do you not see how disjointed and out of ideas our team looked yesterday(and all of this season)? how about how mentally weak we are after things dont go our way? this is all on him, so to say he did brilliant last night is pretty ridiculous

 

[Azzurri7]

are you serious, do you not see how disjointed and out of ideas our team looked yesterday(and all of this season)? how about how mentally weak we are after things dont go our way? this is all on him, so to say he did brilliant last night is pretty ridiculous

Did you not expect difficult season after all these transfers? Allegri's only fault is that he probably had no word in the transfer market.

It's all on Agnelli and Moratta's IMO, Allegri with the cards on his hands needs time obviously.

Regarding last night's match, do you want qualification or not?

 

[dolph]

I seriously can't believe how naive some of you and how terribly bad can some of you read the match.

Allegri did his job almost perfect from his part, the formation was good overall, his subs were brave and earned the team one point which puts them closer to qualification.

Chiellini's brain-fart costed the team in the first 20min, but probably to many of you with a different coach Chiellini wouldn't have made any of his usual mistakes.

The team started an ideal second half controlling the game and attacking left and right until smart Hernanes decided to tackle with both feet. Now I also assume with different coach Hernanes would have most probably tackled with one leg right?

I am sure the same members calling Allegri chicken for not attacking with one man down would be now moaning had Juve lost and blame him for not playing for a point.

Many of you were crying because Dybala didn't start some matches, but when Allegri said the kid needs to grow physically I guess if some of you played at least few years of football would agree with him by now. Now that he starts Dybala you find something else to whine on.

Allegri did brilliant today, I wanted one point after Hernanes was out, this is group stages and not second leg quarter final to go all in. He did well with his subs and I am sure he will attack City at home.

I kind of agree with you on how you save the match, but I don't agree on the Allegri being perfect part. First of all our opening 30 min. was terrible again. We start without aggression being miles away from the Gladback players and we only respond when where behind. That's been a recurrent theme this season and it is on the coach to fire the team up so that we play from the start. Hernanes red card really fuck us and you cant blame that on Allegri. But hes substitutions was of. We could have reverted to a 4-4-1 with Cuadrado and Pogba on the sides, sitting back an countering with Morata, Cuadrado and Pogba. Instead we choose to play with 5 defenders, 3 CM and one winger meaning that we had no attacking outlet at all and the Gladback players could just pour forward without being afraid of the counterattacks. That was a dangerous tactics in we barely got away with it.

 

[Azzurri7]

I kind of agree with you on how you save the match, but I don't agree on the Allegri being perfect part. First of all our opening 30 min. was terrible again. We start without aggression being miles away from the Gladback players and we only respond when where behind. That's been a recurrent theme this season and it is on the coach to fire the team up so that we play from the start. Hernanes red card really fuck us and you cant blame that on Allegri. But hes substitutions was of. We could have reverted to a 4-4-1 with Cuadrado and Pogba on the sides, sitting back an countering with Morata, Cuadrado and Pogba. Instead we choose to play with 5 defenders, 3 CM and one winger meaning that we had no attacking outlet at all and the Gladback players could just pour forward without being afraid of the counterattacks. That was a dangerous tactics in we barely got away with it.

1- It was predictable and normal that Borussia would attack first 20-30min, they went all in as draw would eliminate them. They would have done the same against any other top team.

2- The first goal conceded was typical Chiellini's clown mistake(s) that he keeps pulling over and over again, Allegri can't indicate them on every ball or defensively, Giorgio is experienced enough to take the blame for the first goal and not Max. The reaction after the goal was conceded was good.

3- 2nd half started well and I can only credit Max for HT instructions, it was ideal until Hernanes went full retard and like you said Allegri can't be blamed for this.

4- We can agree or disagree on his subs, main point was to lock the midfield and their fast players and force them to commit mistakes with too many defenders and midfielders involved and it worked with a bit of luck as-well.

 

[pitbull]

Did you not expect difficult season after all these transfers? Allegri's only fault is that he probably had no word in the transfer market.

It's all on Agnelli and Moratta's IMO, Allegri with the cards on his hands needs time obviously.

Regarding last night's match, do you want qualification or not?

If oldies like Evra need to come out and talk about attitude problems in the team then clearly the coach isnt holding our dressing room together. This year reminds me of the dark post Ranieri years where Buffon repeatedly talked about the importance of Juventus shirt, setting the right mentality is coaches job. FFS look at Mandzukic, the guy who was among the fiercest in Atletico, team full of tough guys, this season he looks like an old cat compared to his former self.

 

[Azzurri7]

If oldies like Evra need to come out and talk about attitude problems in the team then clearly the coach isnt holding our dressing room together. This year reminds me of the dark post Ranieri years where Buffon repeatedly talked about the importance of Juventus shirt, setting the right mentality is coaches job. FFS look at Mandzukic, the guy who was among the fiercest in Atletico, team full of tough guys, this season he looks like an old cat compared to his former self.

Talking about attitude problem is necessary from the old guards like Buffon and experience player like Evra. This has nothing to do with Allegri, not even Mourinho or a strict Capello could rapidly handle a locker-room with too many new faces.

Allegri on Dybala's price tag said I don't look at how much a player cost, I look at the hard work and attitude. This says it all.

 

[dolph]

1- It was predictable and normal that Borussia would attack first 20-30min, they went all in as draw would eliminate them. They would have done the same against any other top team.

2- The first goal conceded was typical Chiellini's clown mistake(s) that he keeps pulling over and over again, Allegri can't indicate them on every ball or defensively, Giorgio is experienced enough to take the blame for the first goal and not Max. The reaction after the goal was conceded was good.

3- 2nd half started well and I can only credit Max for HT instructions, it was ideal until Hernanes went full retard and like you said Allegri can't be blamed for this.

4- We can agree or disagree on his subs, main point was to lock the midfield and their fast players and force them to commit mistakes with too many defenders and midfielders involved and it worked with a bit of luck as-well.

1: Even if it was predictable that they would attack did not mean that we should play without aggression. We did not win one single challenge in the opening 30 minutes yesterday and motivating the players so that we are ready from the start is the coach job

2: Allegri keeps playing Chilleni even though he often makes defensive mistakes and is terrible with the ball. In the mean time the fucking wall who have been our best player this season is on the bench. Selection choice also on the coach. Offcourse the coach cant be responsible for defemsive howlers unless he keeps fielding the player who always makes these mistakes while benching the best defender that we have.

3: Agreed. Nice adjustments from the coach.

4: Sitting back and just absorbing pressure means that the best you could do is a draw, risking to concede on a long shot, deflected shot anything and allowing Gladback to attack with 8-9 men.

 

[Azzurri7]

You do know that Conte, Prandelli and others would still pick Chiellini and not only Max. He's admired for his aggression but ignored for his mistakes. Don't know why.

Sitting back was the way to play my friend against a team that went all in because a draw isn't in their favor.

Again, no one has answered my question, why risk and attack when the target is qualify and 1 point made the step closer?

 

[am0110]

From CL finalist to sitting back and fighting for a draw against mediocre german side...thats Alegri

 

[Salvo]

From CL finalist to sitting back and fighting for a draw against mediocre german side...thats Alegri

We are actually doing better in the CL compared to last year

 

[JuveJay]

From CL finalist to sitting back and fighting for a draw against mediocre german side...thats Alegri

I think I know this song.