Massimiliano Allegri (437 Viewers)
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Lets remember him for what he did.
Also,,he is getting too senile to withstand what will be coming for him. If i was a family of him..i would tell him to reject Juventus at any cost, mainly because of his health and peace of mind.
He needs to be thinking about retiring and enjoying the rest of his life with is loved ones....not coming to this boiling pot to get ill.
Mourinho and Ancelotti would be my main candidates,,,mainly beause both have top tier pedigree and thats what we need exactly, BUT.... one has interista blood corrupting his veins so he will never come here....and the other has a very turbulent past with us and not solong ago he had some very unkind words towards Juve. If anything, he will go back to milan.
SO Montella it is.
if somehow they convince him and we make peace...im all for it. Exactly the kind of experience we need. Have been wanting him since we were asking for a conte replacement
I think one of the problems is that Allegri shouldn't be seeing a slow build-up 3-5-2 as an option without Pirlo. We could play a fast counterattack 3-5-2 with Dybala-Morata up front, and Asa/Khedira-Marchisio-Pogba in midfield... But the slow building, possession oriented does not work in the slightest without a great regista like Pirlo, or Marchisio firing on all cylinders in that role. Has similar problems when you have a CF in such bad form as Mandzukic. And a Morata-Dybala partnership is much more suited to the counter/fast attacking style than that slow build-up, possession play imo.
4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 should really be the only options until Mandzukic finds form.
4-3-1-2/4-3-2-1 or 4-3-3 should really be the only options until Mandzukic finds form.
That's real inspired Allegri. 
Much more important than getting out of group in CL is not being in the bottom half of the Serie A table at the midpoint of the season, so how about you focus on that.
Much more important than getting out of group in CL is not being in the bottom half of the Serie A table at the midpoint of the season, so how about you focus on that.
I pointed out this before some time after his interview when he stated that our main goal this year is passing the group stage in CL.
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I think the same about Vidal.But it's strange now how many Tuz members suddenly had bad opinion about Allegri as a coach.Just before two months maximum, he was hailed as being almost, the best coach it the world .
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You have a point here.
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"I still have some doubts over the formation."
We really need to get rid of this clown ASAP.
We really need to get rid of this clown ASAP.
Maybe he will decide the right formation at 87 minute .
No question Marchisio is key to Juve's ability to function just now, but I think that has more to do with the tactics than the formation. I would also suggest that if Juve were to continue the low-tempo play, Hernanes should be viewed as Marchisio's primary backup.
I would argue that Juve haven't really been playing 3-5-2 very much in recent weeks. The current system is flexible and doesn't fit neatly as being classified as 3-5-2, I don't think.
You certainly don't have to convince me that the slow build-up play should be ditched. It was suicidal in the conditions the other night, but I'm not a fan of that style more generally. If you aren't going to have a clear plan of attack, it is much easier for an individual to find the space to do something decisive if you play more on the break.
Juve are suffering badly because of the combination of the loss of Tevez, the injuries to Pereyra and the poor form of Pogba. Suddenly it becomes very hard for Juve to really build the play and link the midfield and the attack. I think that in no small part is what has led to the ball going too often to Cuadrado. Again, I think in the current situation Allegri needs to use Hernanes more as he is the obvious player to take on something resembling an orthodox trequartista role and to relieve some of the pressure on Morata/Dybala/Pogba to link the play.
But that is more for if you are to keep playing fairly slowly. Dybala will link the play adequately in a counter-attacking team.
I would argue that Juve haven't really been playing 3-5-2 very much in recent weeks. The current system is flexible and doesn't fit neatly as being classified as 3-5-2, I don't think.
You certainly don't have to convince me that the slow build-up play should be ditched. It was suicidal in the conditions the other night, but I'm not a fan of that style more generally. If you aren't going to have a clear plan of attack, it is much easier for an individual to find the space to do something decisive if you play more on the break.
Juve are suffering badly because of the combination of the loss of Tevez, the injuries to Pereyra and the poor form of Pogba. Suddenly it becomes very hard for Juve to really build the play and link the midfield and the attack. I think that in no small part is what has led to the ball going too often to Cuadrado. Again, I think in the current situation Allegri needs to use Hernanes more as he is the obvious player to take on something resembling an orthodox trequartista role and to relieve some of the pressure on Morata/Dybala/Pogba to link the play.
But that is more for if you are to keep playing fairly slowly. Dybala will link the play adequately in a counter-attacking team.
1) That is absolutely true, which is why if push comes to shove and shit hits the fan; if our favoured candidates aren't available. Be they Conte, Ancelotti, Montella or lesser options such as Capello, Mou (though, likely too expensive) among others; or I suppose Allegri failing in being able to turn things around from this point on. I really think, though he's presently on Conte's Italy staff, we should make a punt at offering the job to Massimo Carrera. He did damn well as our care-taker back in 12/13, he progressed us through a tough CL group and kept our undefeated run going (which was, funnily enough, ruined by Alessio before Conte even came back). He's got all of Conte's grinta, he's tough and has enough character to not be drowned out by egos of certain players. However, I also feel that, in his little time at the helm, he was less rigid and more tactically flexible than Conte and more inclined to try different things in differing circumstances.
2) Again, so true man - Marotta almost should've sat those three in a room and said "Ok, we are happy to let one of you go this year; at worst, we will reluctantly release two of you, but we simply cannot cope with losing three of our key players." Were it up to me, I think I'd have either let Pirlo go, due to age (were he not keen on accepting a more rotational role), or Vidal due to money/injury and possibly some culture/behavioural issues. Knowing that Tevez well still have had to go at the end of this season anyway, but at least he'd have had a year hand-over with Dybala, so to speak.
+Rep but.
2) Again, so true man - Marotta almost should've sat those three in a room and said "Ok, we are happy to let one of you go this year; at worst, we will reluctantly release two of you, but we simply cannot cope with losing three of our key players." Were it up to me, I think I'd have either let Pirlo go, due to age (were he not keen on accepting a more rotational role), or Vidal due to money/injury and possibly some culture/behavioural issues. Knowing that Tevez well still have had to go at the end of this season anyway, but at least he'd have had a year hand-over with Dybala, so to speak.
+Rep but.
@Red too
The Hernanes purchase looks increasingly disappointing, as the guy really doesn't have the pace nor passing to play the treq role here. Unless we play slow possession style like you say. But Allegri's tactical style has never really seemed to thrive in that type of system. He seems to like much more rapid attacking, vertical football when going forward. Pereyra would help with this. As he'd provide that link between mid and attack even if he isn't much of a goal threat currently. But Allegri has seemed quite unwilling to use him there this season even when he was healthy early on. I find his lack of willingness to give a single system/line-up some continuity quite troubling. Even with the injuries. Give 2 or 3 of our attackers a run of games to see if they can establish form together. Give 1 formation a run of games. Stop tinkering every single game.
The lack of an adequate RB with Licht and Caceres out made a 4 man back line pretty tough to play well also.
seriously are you so surprised the hernanes purchased is a disappointing one? the fact he was rotting on the inter bench ought to have screamed mediocrity at best. Everyone knows he is slow, ok he likes to shoot from far out but it is fair to say a fair few knew he would add nothing to this team. But this is marotta just buying for the sake of it and saying to allegri, here you go - good luck, I've washed my hands clean now
The point is, Hernanes was actually a very good player at Lazio and last year Inter had a much better record when they used him as opposed to when he was on the bench.
Did I think he'd be a star here? Not a chance. But a decent option for a cheap price of 11mil? I was hoping for that much. Instead he doesn't even see the pitch in rotation lately, and looked appalling when he did, far worse than at Inter last year.
I was as disappointed as anyone after the mercato. But I still hoped for the best. Hernanes has appallingly bad here, even compared to at Inter.
Did I think he'd be a star here? Not a chance. But a decent option for a cheap price of 11mil? I was hoping for that much. Instead he doesn't even see the pitch in rotation lately, and looked appalling when he did, far worse than at Inter last year.
I was as disappointed as anyone after the mercato. But I still hoped for the best. Hernanes has appallingly bad here, even compared to at Inter.
The thing with Hernanes is that when he played for Lazio he had space in front of him to run into (slowly I might add), but now that he plays for Juve and teams park the bus he's found it difficult to operate because there is literally no space to play into, he can't pass a ball like Pirlo so anything over the top isn't going to work.