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electricRoo

Senior Member
Feb 27, 2011
842
Klopp is available but his last season was horrendous. If his previous record with BVB vindicates him then Allegri's history vindicates allegri.

Montella and Prandelli don't have what it takes to coach Juve. No consistent winning record or even over-performing record.
I disagree with you about Montella, he's a very good coach, or at least that is what his results have shown so far. The Fiorentina squads he had didn't really have potential for more, so he did the best he could with them. Not that I think he'd be better than Allegri, but if Euromaxx continues being bizarre, he'd be an option.

About Klopp, you'll hardly find a coach that didn't have an off season. Conte himself had bad seasons and was sacked at Atalanta and Arezzo. Klopp still made Dortmund champions twice in a league that is raped every year by Bayern unless something extraordinary happens.

I can somehow understand the hate on Zaza and Hernanes (although its too early but anyway.. ) but whats wrong with Pereyra and Lemina? Padoin is a third option RWB/MC/LWB anyway...
I don't know what's wrong with Lemina either, he's a potentially good candidate to replace Vidal. Pereyra though, he can't be a starter, he's a good sub, but he's terrible at finishing everything he does. He is good until the final pass, he is good until the final shot, he is good until the final dribble, he can't finish anything he does, he's like that one guy you played with that always had spectacular shots to the crossbar but never actually scored a goal in his life.
 

dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,599
What a master coach. Bringing them to 4 place in Serie A, IN A ROW.Wow, what a success!!!.4 -th place and in a row.Marvelous!!!
Well that might be good for the rats but not for us.
You are referring to that game where we lead 2-0 up to 75 minute and conceded 4 goals in 15 minutes.Once in a lifetime.Most weird match in this century.
Apart from that game our statistics are:
-9.02.2013- 2-0 for us,Montella coach,
-9.03.2014--1-0 for us,Montella coach.
And especially this narrow win at Coppa Italia
7.04.2015
away 3-0 win for us,normally Montella coach,as I say at their turf.

Anyway bringing them to a huge success as being at EL semifinal is a prestigious reference for further coaching at ,let's say Lazio,Genoa,Sampdoria,Udinese etc . but not Juve.He simply isn't a Juve material.Like DelNeri/Ranieri ,Zacheroni who,badly for us were never a Juve material coaches and still were here.He is better than them obviously but still not worth for Juve.
first of all I dont recall Conte being our coach in 2015. Second you coveniently forgot the 2 draws we played against eventhough our team was far better better individually.
Ladt but not least you do realise that the statement about him finishing 4 is good for Fiotentina level squad totally contradicts ourself. It means he have done a good job in that situation and given the individual talent and backing of a winning club he could do a fantastic job.

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You posted it while I was writing my post so I didn't see it before mine was out.

I do not agree with you that he over-performed at all. Over performing would be getting into the CL with Fiorentina and putting on some performance there. A fourth place finish is exactly whats expected of Fiorentina. Juve cemented the champion position but there were two spots up for grabs. In 2012 it was Napoli and an utterly horrible Milan that bettered fiorentina. In 2013 it was Roma and Napoli and in 2014 it was Roma and Lazio.

Similarly 6th place with Roma is not excellent in any sense. He took over during the season I know but I do not remember anyone seeing him as anything but an interim coach and he was unsurprisingly let go of at the end of their season. He went to Catania which is at best a mid-table team which is not the kind of job you'd get if you've just transformed Roma. I am just not seeing why you are so impressed with him that you dare compare him with a coach of Conte or Allegri's caliber let alone say he is better than them.
When you are a 36 year old coach that only has been training on youth level into then and you take a Roma team that are relegation threatent in february and lead them to 6th place I think thats impressive. Romas new owners then choice to try the Barcelona project instead of keeping him as they deemed he was to inexperienced. As I see it the Fiorentina squad at hes disposal had the ability to finish between 4-7 place and he put them in 7 place everytime White also competing in Europe. So what if they did not have the stand out season where they where second or third. He did not have a season where they totally underperformed either.
I have never said that Montella was or are a better coach than Conte. I said he was a better tactician and I think thats a pretty fair asumption given the fact that the tactical part of coaching is not hes strongsuit whereas hes motivational skills and squad handling are second to non.
I do miss Contes "any given sunday speches, his celebration with the squad and hes screaming of the crowd, but as much as I miss that I just could not stand his tactical rigid 3-5-2 and hid constant bitching and whinning to the media in the end. Thats why I would prefer Montella because he is also a very good young Italian coach and at the same time his an intelligent classy guy who would be a excellent coach and representative for Juve.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,499
With Roma he took over midway through the season after Raniere when Roma was strugling with relegation and got them to 6th place. With Catania he took a team that everybody thought would get relegated and got them to 7 or 8th place. With Fiorentina he took a team that almost got relegated the year before and almost got them 3rd place.he gave them a clear identity playing attractive football. Every place he had gone he has got the best out of the team at his disposal and I think that is the kind of coach we need. I think that he will do exceptionally well at a big club. I think he has the abilities and the personality for it.
I dont like Prandelli because he has problems given the teams he train identity and seems to be a bit fragile mentaly.
Word :tup:
 

TheTruth

Junior Member
Aug 24, 2015
260
This team is officially in a crisis.

First of all Allegri has to find a clear system and stick with it. He adapted the 4-3-3 against City in the CL and had great success, just keep on playing that way.

Now, you can say the injuries force him to switch, but in my mind there's been no injuries which haven't allowed us to play 4-3-3. And why the hell would you bench Cuadrado in a desperate situation like this, thats just complete ludacris. He was probably pissed off at him for not holding the ball in the last seconds against Frosinone and City, but come on bro you can't bench Cuadrado.

All this switching back and forth from 3-5-2 to 4-3-3 to 4-3-1-2, everybody just looks lost and there's no flow in our attacking game.

Im not even going to comment on Padoin getting the assignment to defend an in-form Insigne.

Im very disappointed in our defense as a whole though, and im not going to blame Allegri too much there. Chiellini and Bonucci have to step up big time, you guys are the so-called veterans and are out there making Titus Bramble type of mistakes, ridiculous.

Wins are the only way out if this, and we need to put together a run of results starting from the next game. The Scudetto is not out of reach, Inter and Roma are inconsistent and will drop points.

PS: Start playing Alex Sandro and get that dude in form
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,944
Basically, yes, we haven't created a team from the players we have. For now Allegri needs to find a way to integrate Cuadrado, Dybala and Morata together, because they are the talented ones available.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,286
first of all I dont recall Conte being our coach in 2015. Second you coveniently forgot the 2 draws we played against eventhough our team was far better better individually.
Ladt but not least you do realise that the statement about him finishing 4 is good for Fiotentina level squad totally contradicts ourself. It means he have done a good job in that situation and given the individual talent and backing of a winning club he could do a fantastic job.

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When you are a 36 year old coach that only has been training on youth level into then and you take a Roma team that are relegation threatent in february and lead them to 6th place I think thats impressive. Romas new owners then choice to try the Barcelona project instead of keeping him as they deemed he was to inexperienced. As I see it the Fiorentina squad at hes disposal had the ability to finish between 4-7 place and he put them in 7 place everytime White also competing in Europe. So what if they did not have the stand out season where they where second or third. He did not have a season where they totally underperformed either.
I have never said that Montella was or are a better coach than Conte. I said he was a better tactician and I think thats a pretty fair asumption given the fact that the tactical part of coaching is not hes strongsuit whereas hes motivational skills and squad handling are second to non.
I do miss Contes "any given sunday speches, his celebration with the squad and hes screaming of the crowd, but as much as I miss that I just could not stand his tactical rigid 3-5-2 and hid constant bitching and whinning to the media in the end. Thats why I would prefer Montella because he is also a very good young Italian coach and at the same time his an intelligent classy guy who would be a excellent coach and representative for Juve.
Fine .Or be fired after 2 games.Like Gasperini was at Inter after ,I don't know,6 months.If a draw with us is an utmost result with I can give you many examples with weaker clubs than Fiorentina who made it happens in Conte era.One draw with them was on mutual benefit on their turf when we don't wanna risk anything .And another was also at their turf.I don't see anything bad for us or good for them to draw on their turf.They are Fiorentina not Lecce or Catania at the end of the day.They are not a small club.So a draw on their pitch isn't some spectacular result for them.And they weren't that bad with the players.Rossi,Jojo,Ljajic ,Savic.among others.That's not a bad team at all.
 

Juve-Boner

Junior Member
May 6, 2012
128
After the international break, i think we will see a different juve, we will have most of our players ready and they will all be eager to get back on track. I think this season will fall back on how Il Principino perform. He has to take the next step and become the superstar of Juve. And Allegri just field Dybala please.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
After the international break, i think we will see a different juve, we will have most of our players ready and they will all be eager to get back on track. I think this season will fall back on how Il Principino perform. He has to take the next step and become the superstar of Juve. And Allegri just field Dybala please.
Thats what we thought in the last international break and look at us now.

Something is not clicking...and we could have a break of 4 weeks , but if something doesnt change,,, it will be useless.

We have a core issue right now that must be solved ASAP.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,790
It's so obvious. We're purposely playing badly with odd tactics so as to give the others hope that they'll win the Scudetto, before crushing their hopes and dreams. Allegri is a master ruseman.
 

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