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duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
Allegri should understand we arent in posición to holding back a shit.

WTH ponga and lich didn't start. WTF pobga for marchisio and mandzu for moratta. WTF we didn't pressure as chievo did. WTH hernanes as regista. WTF we couldn't touch 3 clean balls in a row.

Fucking game
 

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Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,982
Half the people melting down here were those who went on and on the last few seasons about how our 10+ point leads after the winter break weren't safe and the teams behind us could easily catch us if we slip up.

Now, after 3 weeks a 7-8 point deficit means we're out of the scudetto race already. :lol:
Nobody said we're out of the scudetto race, but we look a shadow of the team of the last few years and that is the worrying part of it all. There is no good trying to hide it by trying to say "we can still catch up" of course we are not out of the scudetto race till we are mathmatically out of it but right now based on our performance it is hard to see us even defending it

and before you say it no it wasn't me that brought up this allegri vs conte argument this time, but people still insist on insulting him and solely believe Allegri IS better than Conte or 'Cunte' to those ungrateful swines. I'd seriously be interested to see if those opinions remain if Allegri was to finish the season without having won the league and exiting the CL in the group stages.
 

lgorTudor

Senior Member
Jan 15, 2015
32,951
God you people are so fanatical.


Looking at whocored.com:

Vs Chievo - we had 26 shots and 66.7% possession.
vs Udinese - we had 21 shots and 65.5% possession.


We are certainly creating plenty of chances and with a team still learning each other our possesion hasn't been horrible.

The goals will come. Chill the hell out.
Hernanes/Dybala/Pogba shots from 35m are surely 'created chances'. Glad you're back :tup:
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
God you people are so fanatical.


Looking at whocored.com:

Vs Chievo - we had 26 shots and 66.7% possession.
vs Udinese - we had 21 shots and 65.5% possession.



We are certainly creating plenty of chances and with a team still learning each other our possesion hasn't been horrible.

The goals will come. Chill the hell out.
Yeah ,sure.Where that shots ends?.Some fans high on the stands were hiding in order not to be hit with that much shots.That accurate they were.Especially today we have a "plenty" of chances.Million.And our defense was like a Swiss cheese.That good.So you have a point here.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Hernanes/Dybala/Pogba shots from 35m are surely 'created chances'. Glad you're back :tup:
Yeah. Those 2 chances that Heranes took were great. But hey, lets not even try to shoot from outside the box, right?

Glad you're still here. Reminds me to ask myself why even come back.

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Yeah ,sure.Where that shots ende?.Some fans high on the stands were hiding in order not to be hit with that much shots.That accurate they were.Especially today we have a "plenty" of chances.Million.And our defense was like a Swiss cheese.That good.So you have a point here.
God you are dense.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
I remember we looked horrible last year losing to olympicos and Genoa.. with the likes of Tevez and Vidal and Pirlo.
We looked horible many times during past seasons but we always have somebody who make a difference and we win.Now we don't have that type of player.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
No, it doesn't necessarily mean that, especially because Serie A sucks. But it sounds like you never played the game because starting off a season in this fashion is hard to recover from.
Of course it is tough to recover from. Though I could list countless examples from all over the sporting world of teams recovering from terrible starts to win titles... Regardless, 3 games is far too early to snap judgment a lost season.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Allegri: 'Too much Juve pressure'
By Football Italia staff

Max Allegri said Juventus need to shake off the pressure and embrace “healthy recklessness” after a 1-1 draw with Chievo.

This was already their worst ever start to a Serie A season, but the last time they failed to win any of the opening three rounds was in 1968-69 with a trio of stalemates.

“I didn’t like that we could’ve done better in midfield. We created a great deal, though after the break were a little more chaotic,” the Coach told Sky Sport Italia.

“Between this game and Udinese, we conceded the first shot on target. I’ve only had the full squad available for three days due to international duty and the new signings arriving, so we need time to settle.

“I would’ve liked success straight away too, but we must be realistic and accept our situation in the table, focusing on the performance.”

Paul Pogba started from the bench, so Allegri was asked if this sent a message to the Frenchman.

“He had played two games for France, returned on Wednesday and I preferred to give him a breather. The same was true of Giorgio Chiellini and Stephan Lichtsteiner.

“At the moment we are struggling to score goals, but we played decidedly better than against Roma and Udinese.

“Claudio Marchisio’s thigh muscle hardened, so we decided to take him off as a precaution.”

Juventus have made many changes over the summer and seem disorganised, while many players aren’t on the same page.

“After two defeats, we felt the anxiety and haste to score a goal. We should’ve moved the ball around more and made Chievo run harder. The approach to the game was good.

“The responsibility for our first hour at Roma was mine, as I felt we needed to play like that, but football doesn’t always pan out the way you expect.

“We reacted well tonight and could’ve scored earlier. We have to look on the bright side, it would’ve been nice to have nine points in the table, but we don’t.

“The objective of Juventus is to be fighting for three tournaments in March. We knew Serie A would be tougher this season, so that’s not a surprise.

“We must stop talking about the players who were here last season. This is a new team with many new players. It takes time. What we do need to do is find our balance in defence, as we were too stretched out in the first half, and be less hasty in attack.”

The Bianconeri’s next test is a huge one, as they visit Manchester City in the Champions League on Tuesday.

“It’s a big game and at this moment we need to play with less pressure on us, a bit more healthy recklessness.”
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Nobody said we're out of the scudetto race, but we look a shadow of the team of the last few years and that is the worrying part of it all. There is no good trying to hide it by trying to say "we can still catch up" of course we are not out of the scudetto race till we are mathmatically out of it but right now based on our performance it is hard to see us even defending it

and before you say it no it wasn't me that brought up this allegri vs conte argument this time, but people still insist on insulting him and solely believe Allegri IS better than Conte or '$#@!e' to those ungrateful swines. I'd seriously be interested to see if those opinions remain if Allegri was to finish the season without having won the league and exiting the CL in the group stages.
So how about quit being an "ungrateful swine" yourself and realize that Marotta and co built the team that allowed Conte to run riot over Serie A.

And take your own advice and wait until we're at least decently into the season as in 10-12 Serie A rounds and 3-4 CL games before you declare this to be some disastrous lost season, and half the players on the team to be scrubs unworthy of wearing a Juventus jersey. You sound like some spoiled, entitled, weiner.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Yeah. Those 2 chances that Heranes took were great. But hey, lets not even try to shoot from outside the box, right?

Glad you're still here. Reminds me to ask myself why even come back.

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God you are dense

I always take you as an example as someone being so dense,
I just can't understand your obsession to defend Allegri /Marotta and their moves doesn't matter how we play.This displays are shameful.Defend as much as you want but at this games we show ultra bad display.Like bunch of kids who wants to play recreative football.And against what teams?Fucking Udinese/Chievo.We have to wait until the mid season break to consolidate? We spent around 120 mil. for this ?And then you will start explaining how we will be immaculate on the market for the next season.This display of the team sucks.End of story.There is no leader and soldiers.Nobody knows what they are doing.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I just can't understand your obsession to defend Allegri /Marotta and their moves doesn't matter how we play.This displays are shameful.Defend as much as you want but this games we show ultra bad display.Like bunch of kids who wants to play recreative football.And against what teams?Fucking Udinese/Chievo.We have to wait until the mid season break to consolidate.And then you will start explaining how we will be immaculate on the market for the next season.This display of the team sucks.End of story.There is no master and no caretaker.Nobody knows what they are doing.
Brilliant.

Reminds me a lot like your posts.

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So how about quit being an "ungrateful swine" yourself and realize that Marotta and co built the team that allowed Conte to run riot over Serie A.

And take your own advice and wait until we're at least decently into the season as in 10-12 Serie A rounds and 3-4 CL games before you declare this to be some disastrous lost season, and half the players on the team to be scrubs unworthy of wearing a Juventus jersey. You sound like some spoiled, entitled, weiner.
Remember how our season was over before it even started when we first signed Allegri?
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,290
Brilliant.

Reminds me a lot like your posts.

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Remember how our season was over before it even started when we first signed Allegri?
Well ,looking over your posts and all that nonsense hailing at the mercato thread/Marotta/Allegri threads and comparing them to team display ,make my posts a rocket science posts to your's.Just continue to be optimistic and defend with more effort.Make a lot of sense.Especially do that after City game.

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Allegri: 'Too much Juve pressure'
By Football Italia staff

Max Allegri said Juventus need to shake off the pressure and embrace “healthy recklessness” after a 1-1 draw with Chievo.

This was already their worst ever start to a Serie A season, but the last time they failed to win any of the opening three rounds was in 1968-69 with a trio of stalemates.

“I didn’t like that we could’ve done better in midfield. We created a great deal, though after the break were a little more chaotic,” the Coach told Sky Sport Italia.

“Between this game and Udinese, we conceded the first shot on target. I’ve only had the full squad available for three days due to international duty and the new signings arriving, so we need time to settle.

“I would’ve liked success straight away too, but we must be realistic and accept our situation in the table, focusing on the performance.”

Paul Pogba started from the bench, so Allegri was asked if this sent a message to the Frenchman.

“He had played two games for France, returned on Wednesday and I preferred to give him a breather. The same was true of Giorgio Chiellini and Stephan Lichtsteiner.

“At the moment we are struggling to score goals, but we played decidedly better than against Roma and Udinese.

“Claudio Marchisio’s thigh muscle hardened, so we decided to take him off as a precaution.”

Juventus have made many changes over the summer and seem disorganised, while many players aren’t on the same page.

“After two defeats, we felt the anxiety and haste to score a goal. We should’ve moved the ball around more and made Chievo run harder. The approach to the game was good.

“The responsibility for our first hour at Roma was mine, as I felt we needed to play like that, but football doesn’t always pan out the way you expect.

“We reacted well tonight and could’ve scored earlier. We have to look on the bright side, it would’ve been nice to have nine points in the table, but we don’t.

“The objective of Juventus is to be fighting for three tournaments in March. We knew Serie A would be tougher this season, so that’s not a surprise.

“We must stop talking about the players who were here last season. This is a new team with many new players. It takes time. What we do need to do is find our balance in defence, as we were too stretched out in the first half, and be less hasty in attack.”

The Bianconeri’s next test is a huge one, as they visit Manchester City in the Champions League on Tuesday.

“It’s a big game and at this moment we need to play with less pressure on us, a bit more healthy recklessness.”
Second Milan season days explanations.
 

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