Massimiliano Allegri (294 Viewers)

[Fr3sh]

So much depth in the team that allegri doesn't even know what to do with it till the 88th minute

Very true

 

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[Hist]

Barzagli a BL flop? Starting CB for BL champs, arguably one of the best defenders in Germany prior to coming here.

Pirlo was far from finished. A season before his last one in Milan he was pivotal, but injuries sidelined him and caused Milan to make one their bigger, if not the biggest mistake in the last decade. Since then looking at their roster you'll notice that it became kinda habit of theirs. Really bad judgment of players abilities and potential in the last several years has brought them on a verge of becoming irrelevant side.

Marchisio in more defensive role was always a nice player (during Ranieri's spell), but the problem arose when incompetent managers (Ferrara and Del Neri) started to field him as a winger or attacking mid, positions in which he never excelled due to insufficient offensive skills. Once he was shifted back to his natural spot the level of his performances returned to its previous levels.

Such short memory and retrospect.

How about we look at the early barzagli, and Pirlo threads?

Barzagli was let go by wolfsburg and was only a regular during his first season there and then was slowly replaced by other mediocre defenders. He was then let go basically for free. Please lets not pretend anyone was thinking he is a worldclass defender or that he is a great steal back then. I can't argue with you if you hold that Barzagli was always a very good player. Barzagli was a nobody.

Similarly, Pirlo was finished, injured and old. Conte got him back to his best form and it is Conte's greatest move. None of us thought we are getting the world's best central midfielder and certainly no one thought he would be the most important player for us and Italy for the next 2 years.

Marchisio was never a great footballer in any sense under ranieri. He had some okay games here and there but nothing special. Conte got the best out of him like no other coach did before.

Bonnuci was another insane flop that Conte completely transformed and made him part of one of the strongest defensive units in Europe. Or was he world class too?

Pretending that our squad was good in Conte's first season is pure hating on the big man.

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there was also a reason we were willing to offer him such high wages too , and we presented him here as a top player and one of our most important signings when we signed him.

Conte deserves credit for what he did that season, he was probably the most important part of the team that season, but it definitely wasnt some sort of miracle where he did all the work with an average squad and finished players like Hist is trying to present it...

I am not denying that Marotta did a good job buying them. But you lot are pretending that we weren't all pleasantly surprised by the performance levels these players gave. Even Marotta and Agnelli consistently said that we never expected to grow so quickly and that we are 2 seasons ahead of plan. They themselves under-estimated the capabilities of the squad.

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there was also a reason we were willing to offer him such high wages too , and we presented him here as a top player and one of our most important signings when we signed him.

Conte deserves credit for what he did that season, he was probably the most important part of the team that season, but it definitely wasnt some sort of miracle where he did all the work with an average squad and finished players like Hist is trying to present it...

Have you forgotten the "We will sign a champion" talk of every season? Amauri was presented as a top player, so was Krasic and Diego.

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And we signed Pirlo way before the agreement was struck with Conte, obviously managment held him in high regards. Kudos to Conte for getting the best out of him, but he'd have to be pretty incompetent coach (Del Neri style) to ruin Pirlo, injury free of course.

Allegri is not incompetent and he didn't appreciate Pirlo.

 

[Hist]

Barzagli a BL flop? Starting CB for BL champs, arguably one of the best defenders in Germany prior to coming here.

Pirlo was far from finished. A season before his last one in Milan he was pivotal, but injuries sidelined him and caused Milan to make one their bigger, if not the biggest mistake in the last decade. Since then looking at their roster you'll notice that it became kinda habit of theirs. Really bad judgment of players abilities and potential in the last several years has brought them on a verge of becoming irrelevant side.

Marchisio in more defensive role was always a nice player (during Ranieri's spell), but the problem arose when incompetent managers (Ferrara and Del Neri) started to field him as a winger or attacking mid, positions in which he never excelled due to insufficient offensive skills. Once he was shifted back to his natural spot the level of his performances returned to its previous levels.

Such short memory and retrospect.

How about we look at the early barzagli, and Pirlo threads?

Barzagli was let go by wolfsburg and was only a regular during his first season there and then was slowly replaced by other mediocre defenders. He was then let go basically for free. Please lets not pretend anyone was thinking he is a worldclass defender or that he is a great steal back then. I can't argue with you if you hold that Barzagli was always a very good player. Barzagli was a nobody.

Similarly, Pirlo was finished, injured and old. Conte got him back to his best form and it is Conte's greatest move. None of us thought we are getting the world's best central midfielder and certainly no one thought he would be the most important player for us and Italy for the next 2 years.

Marchisio was never a great footballer in any sense under ranieri. He had some okay games here and there but nothing special. Conte got the best out of him like no other coach did before.

Bonnuci was another insane flop that Conte completely transformed and made him part of one of the strongest defensive units in Europe. Or was he world class too?

Pretending that our squad was good in Conte's first season is pure hating on the big man.

- - - Updated - - -

there was also a reason we were willing to offer him such high wages too , and we presented him here as a top player and one of our most important signings when we signed him.

Conte deserves credit for what he did that season, he was probably the most important part of the team that season, but it definitely wasnt some sort of miracle where he did all the work with an average squad and finished players like Hist is trying to present it...

I am not denying that Marotta did a good job buying them. But you lot are pretending that we weren't all pleasantly surprised by the performance levels these players gave. Even Marotta and Agnelli consistently said that we never expected to grow so quickly and that we are 2 seasons ahead of plan. They themselves under-estimated the capabilities of the squad.

- - - Updated - - -

there was also a reason we were willing to offer him such high wages too , and we presented him here as a top player and one of our most important signings when we signed him.

Conte deserves credit for what he did that season, he was probably the most important part of the team that season, but it definitely wasnt some sort of miracle where he did all the work with an average squad and finished players like Hist is trying to present it...

Have you forgotten the "We will sign a champion" talk of every season? Amauri was presented as a top player, so was Krasic and Diego.

- - - Updated - - -

And we signed Pirlo way before the agreement was struck with Conte, obviously managment held him in high regards. Kudos to Conte for getting the best out of him, but he'd have to be pretty incompetent coach (Del Neri style) to ruin Pirlo, injury free of course.

Allegri is not incompetent and he didn't appreciate Pirlo.

 

[JuveID]

This is.

Conte deserved credit to get best potensial from barzagli, pirlo, marchisio, etc.

But, conte was not responsible about flop one like isla, elia, krasic, gio etc

And about sub.

Allegri did not know how to use depth player.
In fact against olympiakos he sub on llorente, turn game, and in the end we won.

And conte used depth player very well with using 8 starter players againt sassuolo in wed pitch before benfica game.

Good things -----> Conte
Bad things ------> marotta, allegri, bonucci, pereyra, 100 euro restaurant, etc

 

[JuveID]

This is.

Conte deserved credit to get best potensial from barzagli, pirlo, marchisio, etc.

But, conte was not responsible about flop one like isla, elia, krasic, gio etc

And about sub.

Allegri did not know how to use depth player.
In fact against olympiakos he sub on llorente, turn game, and in the end we won.

And conte used depth player very well with using 8 starter players againt sassuolo in wed pitch before benfica game.

Good things -----> Conte
Bad things ------> marotta, allegri, bonucci, pereyra, 100 euro restaurant, etc

 

[Hust]

Brilliant.
@Bianconero_Aus

 

[Hust]

Brilliant.
@Bianconero_Aus

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Brilliant.
@Bianconero_Aus

See

He is absolutely brilliant. Our one-man Indonesian special forces commando.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Brilliant.
@Bianconero_Aus

See

He is absolutely brilliant. Our one-man Indonesian special forces commando.

 

[Hust]

See

He is absolutely brilliant. Our one-man Indonesian special forces commando.

Our own Rambo

 

[Hust]

See

He is absolutely brilliant. Our one-man Indonesian special forces commando.

Our own Rambo

 

[CrimsonianKing]

This is.

Conte deserved credit to get best potensial from barzagli, pirlo, marchisio, etc.

But, conte was not responsible about flop one like isla, elia, krasic, gio etc

And about sub.

Allegri did not know how to use depth player.
In fact against olympiakos he sub on llorente, turn game, and in the end we won.

And conte used depth player very well with using 8 starter players againt sassuolo in wed pitch before benfica game.

Good things -----> Conte
Bad things ------> marotta, allegri, bonucci, pereyra, 100 euro restaurant, etc

Is this the Everybody decided to have a double week?

 

[CrimsonianKing]

This is.

Conte deserved credit to get best potensial from barzagli, pirlo, marchisio, etc.

But, conte was not responsible about flop one like isla, elia, krasic, gio etc

And about sub.

Allegri did not know how to use depth player.
In fact against olympiakos he sub on llorente, turn game, and in the end we won.

And conte used depth player very well with using 8 starter players againt sassuolo in wed pitch before benfica game.

Good things -----> Conte
Bad things ------> marotta, allegri, bonucci, pereyra, 100 euro restaurant, etc

Is this the Everybody decided to have a double week?

 

[Lion]

u are so mad at his excellent points that u cant even come up with legit counter points.

 

[Lion]

u are so mad at his excellent points that u cant even come up with legit counter points.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

u are so mad at his excellent points that u cant even come up with legit counter points.

Give me a list of the typical/average Tuz poster who would disagree with all/most of JuveID's posts

now

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

u are so mad at his excellent points that u cant even come up with legit counter points.

Give me a list of the typical/average Tuz poster who would disagree with all/most of JuveID's posts

now

 

[Hust]

Give me a list of the typical/average Tuz poster who would disagree with all/most of JuveID's posts

now

Badass
Cusp
Cronios
DP84
Fresh
Rab
Anyone anti-board

 

[Hust]

Give me a list of the typical/average Tuz poster who would disagree with all/most of JuveID's posts

now

Badass
Cusp
Cronios
DP84
Fresh
Rab
Anyone anti-board

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

DP84??? WTF dude...