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Mar 10, 2009
8,684
What is his record in the CL? (trying to look for positives)
1/16
1/8

2013-2014 doesnt really count because he never finished off the season but he got Milan out thr group

This is indeed worrying, but lets just see. Im more worried about why Conte left rather than Allegri coming in, because I don't want the reason being over the sale of Vidal or Pogba
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,684
What is his record in the CL? (trying to look for positives)
1/16
1/8

2013-2014 doesnt really count because he never finished off the season but he got Milan out thr group

This is indeed worrying, but lets just see. Im more worried about why Conte left rather than Allegri coming in, because I don't want the reason being over the sale of Vidal or Pogba
 
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Mark

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    How come your posts are separate and most here get all scrammed in 1?

    about Allegri's record I saw a post here saying it was worse than Conte's.
     
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    Mark

    The Informer
    Administrator
    Dec 19, 2003
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  • Thread Starter #3,608
    How come your posts are separate and most here get all scrammed in 1?

    about Allegri's record I saw a post here saying it was worse than Conte's.
     

    Nardonejuve

    Senior Member
    Mar 21, 2010
    2,197
    what im worried about and yes i know we arnt coming off a CL win but a rafa to inter situation

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    We'll still win the league, even he can't lose with the team we have. The only worry is Conte's reason for leaving.
    the way roma are building i wouldnt be so sure if we dont bring in a few players

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    We don't like you very much, but all the very best. Bring us a trophy or two.

    Please don't play any traditional Italian conservative bs tactics, they're way outdated.
    :agree:
     

    Nardonejuve

    Senior Member
    Mar 21, 2010
    2,197
    what im worried about and yes i know we arnt coming off a CL win but a rafa to inter situation

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    We'll still win the league, even he can't lose with the team we have. The only worry is Conte's reason for leaving.
    the way roma are building i wouldnt be so sure if we dont bring in a few players

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    We don't like you very much, but all the very best. Bring us a trophy or two.

    Please don't play any traditional Italian conservative bs tactics, they're way outdated.
    :agree:
     

    Hist

    Founder of Hism
    Jan 18, 2009
    11,616
    I posted this elsewhere but i think it should be here. Hiring Allegri has many ramifications.
    First, we'll get a lesser coach who is extremely hated and disrespected by all fans in Italy. Our rival fans are celebrating this hiring and all our fans are in melt down. The mocking and the meltdown in itself is not the problem. The pressure that this lesser coach is going to work under, however, is the problem.
    Literally everyone ranging from media to juve and rival fans will be following him with a microscope and the man, management and squad will almost certainly suffer significantly from that enormous pressure.
    Conte suffered from the pressure of having fans demand more in Europe and it reflected on our performances in europe. The lesser Allegri will have ten times the pressure. Every mistake will be exponentially exaggerated. Every loss will be labelled a crisis. Everyone is waiting for him to fail and it could very well become a self fulfilling prophecy. Allegri and the management are in for an unprecedented $#@!-storm now. If there was any chance allegri could do well under normal conditions, this chance is now halved to say the least. In short, we have a lesser coach that has to deal with ten times the pressure.

    Second, signing allegri carries suspicious implications about our management's intentions. Let me explain why.
    Allegri is a puppet. Berlusconi, Barabara and Galliani consistently jerked him around and he never took a single stand against how they tore his AC milan apart. He is spineless in that regard and I doubt he'd ever resign out of his own accord regardless of how far management corners him. He is the perfect scapegoat. Any failures will be made out to be Allegri's and he'll be sacked while any success will be credited to the management.
    If either Pogba or Vidal leaves this summer then Allegri is definitely a sucker for having fallen into the same trap twice. I am worried that by Hiring allegri, management thought they could hire a guy they could tear his squad apart before rebuilding again. If thats true then expect one of our two best players to leave, get replaced by the guarins of the world and Allegri to just nod along, do his best and let his reputation suffer even further.

    Brace yourself. Winter is definitely coming.
     

    Hist

    Founder of Hism
    Jan 18, 2009
    11,616
    I posted this elsewhere but i think it should be here. Hiring Allegri has many ramifications.
    First, we'll get a lesser coach who is extremely hated and disrespected by all fans in Italy. Our rival fans are celebrating this hiring and all our fans are in melt down. The mocking and the meltdown in itself is not the problem. The pressure that this lesser coach is going to work under, however, is the problem.
    Literally everyone ranging from media to juve and rival fans will be following him with a microscope and the man, management and squad will almost certainly suffer significantly from that enormous pressure.
    Conte suffered from the pressure of having fans demand more in Europe and it reflected on our performances in europe. The lesser Allegri will have ten times the pressure. Every mistake will be exponentially exaggerated. Every loss will be labelled a crisis. Everyone is waiting for him to fail and it could very well become a self fulfilling prophecy. Allegri and the management are in for an unprecedented $#@!-storm now. If there was any chance allegri could do well under normal conditions, this chance is now halved to say the least. In short, we have a lesser coach that has to deal with ten times the pressure.

    Second, signing allegri carries suspicious implications about our management's intentions. Let me explain why.
    Allegri is a puppet. Berlusconi, Barabara and Galliani consistently jerked him around and he never took a single stand against how they tore his AC milan apart. He is spineless in that regard and I doubt he'd ever resign out of his own accord regardless of how far management corners him. He is the perfect scapegoat. Any failures will be made out to be Allegri's and he'll be sacked while any success will be credited to the management.
    If either Pogba or Vidal leaves this summer then Allegri is definitely a sucker for having fallen into the same trap twice. I am worried that by Hiring allegri, management thought they could hire a guy they could tear his squad apart before rebuilding again. If thats true then expect one of our two best players to leave, get replaced by the guarins of the world and Allegri to just nod along, do his best and let his reputation suffer even further.

    Brace yourself. Winter is definitely coming.
     

    Joe

    Senior Member
    Dec 20, 2009
    14,980
    I'm going to try finding some positives for you guys. :D

    - When given quality, he won the Scudetto with Milan.
    - He has won the Suppercoppa with Milan
    - He was awarded Serie A Coach of the Year in 2010-2011
    - Milan were on course to winning their second scudetto before everything started going wrong for them. (injuries, gol di muntari :lol:)
    - Allegri saw talent in El Shaarawy and De Sciglio and made them shine.
    - He managed to beat Barcelona (in a CL leg) with a terrible team.
    - He coached Sassuolo to their first Serie B qualification ever.
    - He made Cagliari a midtable team and almost made them qualify for the EL when in the previous years the club was flirting with relegation.

    He's not as bad as everyone makes him seem. He is way more proven than Conte was when he was appointed. I know we all loved Conte and we're going to miss him, and Allegri is such a controversial manager to come in because he's fresh out of Milan, but when given quality he has delivered. We have a quality core of players: Buffon, Chiellini, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, etc.
     

    Joe

    Senior Member
    Dec 20, 2009
    14,980
    I'm going to try finding some positives for you guys. :D

    - When given quality, he won the Scudetto with Milan.
    - He has won the Suppercoppa with Milan
    - He was awarded Serie A Coach of the Year in 2010-2011
    - Milan were on course to winning their second scudetto before everything started going wrong for them. (injuries, gol di muntari :lol:)
    - Allegri saw talent in El Shaarawy and De Sciglio and made them shine.
    - He managed to beat Barcelona (in a CL leg) with a terrible team.
    - He coached Sassuolo to their first Serie B qualification ever.
    - He made Cagliari a midtable team and almost made them qualify for the EL when in the previous years the club was flirting with relegation.

    He's not as bad as everyone makes him seem. He is way more proven than Conte was when he was appointed. I know we all loved Conte and we're going to miss him, and Allegri is such a controversial manager to come in because he's fresh out of Milan, but when given quality he has delivered. We have a quality core of players: Buffon, Chiellini, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, etc.
     

    Quetzalcoatl

    It ain't hard to tell
    Aug 22, 2007
    66,764
    I'm going to try finding some positives for you guys. :D

    - When given quality, he won the Scudetto with Milan.
    - He has won the Suppercoppa with Milan
    - He was awarded Serie A Coach of the Year in 2010-2011
    - Milan were on course to winning their second scudetto before everything started going wrong for them. (injuries, gol di muntari :lol:)
    - Allegri saw talent in El Shaarawy and De Sciglio and made them shine.
    - He managed to beat Barcelona (in a CL leg) with a terrible team.
    - He coached Sassuolo to their first Serie B qualification ever.
    - He made Cagliari a midtable team and almost made them qualify for the EL when in the previous years the club was flirting with relegation.

    He's not as bad as everyone makes him seem. He is way more proven than Conte was when he was appointed. I know we all loved Conte and we're going to miss him, and Allegri is such a controversial manager to come in because he's fresh out of Milan, but when given quality he has delivered. We have a quality core of players: Buffon, Chiellini, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, etc.
    If he was coming in at any other period than the historically successful one we just had, his appointment might not be so bad. He could've been a decent choice after the Delneri era, for example. But to fill the void left by Conte in the hearts of the players, will be too much imo. Kinda like Bentiez after Mourinho. And besides the loss of that relationship, most of these players have already won so much, it will be hard for Allegri to get them to continue doing it, especially as it's understood that expectations won't be as high now.

    Even Conte with his exceptional motivational skills would've hard a time keeping them hungry this season (as it was last season compared the ones before). Allegri who seems exceptionally uninspirational will need to have some flawless tactics to overcome a squad playing with half a heart.
     

    Quetzalcoatl

    It ain't hard to tell
    Aug 22, 2007
    66,764
    I'm going to try finding some positives for you guys. :D

    - When given quality, he won the Scudetto with Milan.
    - He has won the Suppercoppa with Milan
    - He was awarded Serie A Coach of the Year in 2010-2011
    - Milan were on course to winning their second scudetto before everything started going wrong for them. (injuries, gol di muntari :lol:)
    - Allegri saw talent in El Shaarawy and De Sciglio and made them shine.
    - He managed to beat Barcelona (in a CL leg) with a terrible team.
    - He coached Sassuolo to their first Serie B qualification ever.
    - He made Cagliari a midtable team and almost made them qualify for the EL when in the previous years the club was flirting with relegation.

    He's not as bad as everyone makes him seem. He is way more proven than Conte was when he was appointed. I know we all loved Conte and we're going to miss him, and Allegri is such a controversial manager to come in because he's fresh out of Milan, but when given quality he has delivered. We have a quality core of players: Buffon, Chiellini, Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal, Tevez, etc.
    If he was coming in at any other period than the historically successful one we just had, his appointment might not be so bad. He could've been a decent choice after the Delneri era, for example. But to fill the void left by Conte in the hearts of the players, will be too much imo. Kinda like Bentiez after Mourinho. And besides the loss of that relationship, most of these players have already won so much, it will be hard for Allegri to get them to continue doing it, especially as it's understood that expectations won't be as high now.

    Even Conte with his exceptional motivational skills would've hard a time keeping them hungry this season (as it was last season compared the ones before). Allegri who seems exceptionally uninspirational will need to have some flawless tactics to overcome a squad playing with half a heart.
     

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