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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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:agree:

It's not ideal for Morata with Mandzu on the pitch, but as we saw in the brief spell with Cuadrado-Dybala-Morata as our front 3, it gave a lot of freedom for Morata to move centrally to the point he scored. I like the idea of that, a false 9 in Dybala who likes to drop deep, a wide 9 in Morata (because let's face it, even when he plays as a CF he drifts wide, especially to the left, very frequently), and an actual RWF in Cuadrado who will give us some width, dribbling, and crossing from the right side, while also being able to move centrally and shoot if the space opens up.

Now if only we can get our midfield healthy and organized behind that, we'll look amazing.
yeah, the midfield should not be a problem once Marchisio is back and actually plays continuously. Khedira too. until that, we should start giving more chances to Lemina infront of the defense. hell turn into another fantastic signing imo
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Paying top money for strikers to play them as wingers is just stupid though. Morata, Mandzukic, Zaza and Dybala all play the same position i'm sorry but if we want people to play wide then we should sign wingers not strikers.

Looks like Marotta just brought in good players regardless of how they would fit into the system. We could have definitely spent the money better this season and it's no surprise Allegri is struggling to get results at the start of the season.

How Allegri got a win here tonight I really have no idea but i'm still worried about how the team will be set up.
Barca plays 3 players in Messi-Suarez-Neymar, and two of them almost exclusively like to play centrally, and Neymar likes to spend much of the game cutting in centrally.

If we play a front 3 of either Cuadrado-Mandzu-Morata or Cuadrado-Dybala-Morata with Morata given more freedom to play a hybrid LWF--->CF, and Cuadrado playing more wide and deep as a hybrid RWF-Right attacking mid, we'll be very good in attack. IMO. Especially in the second formation with Dybala a false 9 and Morata a wide 9. Morata even when playing CF spends much of his time drifting wide to the left.

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yeah, the midfield should not be a problem once Marchisio is back and actually plays continuously. Khedira too. until that, we should start giving more chances to Lemina infront of the defense. hell turn into another fantastic signing imo
I'd like to see Pereyra a little more. When he came on against Roma with Cuadrado, they almost snatched the game back for us with their attacking mindset.
 

Amer

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Feb 13, 2005
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He needed 3-4 games to figure out what to do with all the players he got from Marotta.

I think he managed to fit everyone in and I applaud him for that.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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I don't think that was a 4-3-3, it was The Allegri. Hernanes and Pogba swapped positions quite a lot. Cuadrado was playing wide on the right but sometimes he was in the middle and no one took the wing. Lichtsteiner and Evra were mostly defending and while Morata was stretching the formation wide when we didn't have the ball, he was dropping to the box closer to Mandzukic when in possession. Sturaro was given defensive duties to wherever we left position and we left position on the left, behind the forwards and even on the right wing. One thing I am sure of is that there are no numbers that can describe this formation
 
Jan 22, 2009
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Great tactics for this tough tough game with the personal at your disposal Mr. Much respect for the patience with the subs and setting the whole team mentality after those poor games and conceding first!!!
 

radekas

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Aug 26, 2009
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I don't think that was a 4-3-3, it was The Allegri. Hernanes and Pogba swapped positions quite a lot. Cuadrado was playing wide on the right but sometimes he was in the middle and no one took the wing. Lichtsteiner and Evra were mostly defending and while Morata was stretching the formation wide when we didn't have the ball, he was dropping to the box closer to Mandzukic when in possession. Sturaro was given defensive duties to wherever we left position and we left position on the left, behind the forwards and even on the right wing. One thing I am sure of is that there are no numbers that can describe this formation
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JuveJay

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Mar 6, 2007
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I don't think that was a 4-3-3, it was The Allegri. Hernanes and Pogba swapped positions quite a lot. Cuadrado was playing wide on the right but sometimes he was in the middle and no one took the wing. Lichtsteiner and Evra were mostly defending and while Morata was stretching the formation wide when we didn't have the ball, he was dropping to the box closer to Mandzukic when in possession. Sturaro was given defensive duties to wherever we left position and we left position on the left, behind the forwards and even on the right wing. One thing I am sure of is that there are no numbers that can describe this formation
Yeah it wasn't a real 4-3-3 with authentic wide attackers, but it was set up to be flexible like that with Morata and Cuadrado attacking from wide when we attacked, rather than having a clear player behind the striker(s) in the trequartista role, like Hernanes vs Chievo.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I don't think that was a 4-3-3, it was The Allegri. Hernanes and Pogba swapped positions quite a lot. Cuadrado was playing wide on the right but sometimes he was in the middle and no one took the wing. Lichtsteiner and Evra were mostly defending and while Morata was stretching the formation wide when we didn't have the ball, he was dropping to the box closer to Mandzukic when in possession. Sturaro was given defensive duties to wherever we left position and we left position on the left, behind the forwards and even on the right wing. One thing I am sure of is that there are no numbers that can describe this formation
:agree:

It looked like 4-4-2 at times, 4-3-3 at others, 4-3-2-1 sometimes, 4-3-1-2 sometimes. But I suppose that's the benefit of having versatile players like Cuadrado, Morata, Hernanes, and Pogba who can all play various positions quite well.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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I don't think that was a 4-3-3, it was The Allegri. Hernanes and Pogba swapped positions quite a lot. Cuadrado was playing wide on the right but sometimes he was in the middle and no one took the wing. Lichtsteiner and Evra were mostly defending and while Morata was stretching the formation wide when we didn't have the ball, he was dropping to the box closer to Mandzukic when in possession. Sturaro was given defensive duties to wherever we left position and we left position on the left, behind the forwards and even on the right wing. One thing I am sure of is that there are no numbers that can describe this formation
Certainly no classical 4-3-3, I'm still convinced that Morata wouldn't do well as a classic LW. He did indeed drift centrally a lot as you said.
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Certainly no classical 4-3-3, I'm still convinced that Morata wouldn't do well as a classic LW. He did indeed drift centrally a lot as you said.
You can really tell that Morata was influenced by C. Ronaldo. Plays the LW role almost identically to Ronaldo attacking-wise. Doesn't really care about staying wide left, and seems to drift wherever he feels like. Obviously offers much more defensively, and nowhere near as much offensively, but clear influence is there.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Certainly no classical 4-3-3, I'm still convinced that Morata wouldn't do well as a classic LW. He did indeed drift centrally a lot as you said.
Well, he took the goal from the right half of the field but by then we had already changed the formation to something even more different.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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Well, he took the goal from the right half of the field but by then we had already changed the formation to something even more different.
I'd consider the goal scoring position as a central one tbh. He's just wasted out at the touchlines was what I meant, which is why he wasn't seen there very often, as compared to Cuadrado on the other side for example.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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I'd consider the goal scoring position as a central one tbh. He's just wasted out at the touchlines was what I meant, which is why he wasn't seen there very often, as compared to Cuadrado on the other side for example.
It was central but he came from the right side. I am agreeing with you that he gets wasted on the side but his role was to stretch play when they had possession.
 

Ocelot

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Jul 13, 2013
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It was central but he came from the right side. I am agreeing with you that he gets wasted on the side but his role was to stretch play when they had possession.
I mean his goalscoring chance came about due to a random deflection anyways tbh, not taking away anything from his excellent finish. But it wasn't the result of any controlled gameplay or anything like that.
 

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