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TrezJuve

Senior Member
May 26, 2010
7,414
omg guyz juventus is only 7 points ahead of roma in the league, is in knockout round of cl after last season disasters european campaign both in CL and europa cup.

but the meltdown here would make u think we are about to finish the season at 4th place and miss out on cl football.

i think some of you need a reality check. three seasons of success has really warped your mindset about real life
Standards have improved, everything done up to now is expected of us.

Guys like you make me sick, normalizing failure ad nauseam.
 

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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Relative success. It's true that we are once again on top in Italy, but the distance between us and Bayern for instance is light years. We do need to improve.

And quite frankly, I think that will only happen when we start to buy better quality players.
We will.

Vidal, Pogba, Rugani, Berardi...some worked out really well...hopefully our youth take their opportunities well too

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agree about bayern, but we have been building foundations for years now. these things take time.

and for past 4 seasons we have been buying quality players time and time again. licht, vidal, pirlo, barzagli, asamoah, pogba, tevez, morata. even guys like evra, pereyra, bonucci, and vucinic have played, or are playing an important part in success of the club
Standards have improved, everything done up to now is expected of us.

Guys like you make me sick, normalizing failure ad nauseam.
Canadian Royal Rumble

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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Relative success. It's true that we are once again on top in Italy, but the distance between us and Bayern for instance is light years. We do need to improve.

And quite frankly, I think that will only happen when we start to buy better quality players.
We will.

Vidal, Pogba, Rugani, Berardi...some worked out really well...hopefully our youth take their opportunities well too

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agree about bayern, but we have been building foundations for years now. these things take time.

and for past 4 seasons we have been buying quality players time and time again. licht, vidal, pirlo, barzagli, asamoah, pogba, tevez, morata. even guys like evra, pereyra, bonucci, and vucinic have played, or are playing an important part in success of the club
Standards have improved, everything done up to now is expected of us.

Guys like you make me sick, normalizing failure ad nauseam.
Canadian Royal Rumble

:numnum:
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Standards have improved, everything done up to now is expected of us.

Guys like you make me sick, normalizing failure ad nauseam.
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
Standards have improved, everything done up to now is expected of us.

Guys like you make me sick, normalizing failure ad nauseam.
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,297
It's only my opinion .I don't expect anyone to accept that.Milan-Fiorentina game when they lost at home with a Amauri goal is a good example. Fiorentina was shit that season.Also they had much better team than ours. Thiago Silva,Ibrahimovic etc.Again ,it's my opinion .I am convinced about this.Alegri is a good tactician but Conte was a better motivator and prepared the games better with all his mistakes also.
 

DUKAC

Senior Member
Feb 29, 2012
12,297
It's only my opinion .I don't expect anyone to accept that.Milan-Fiorentina game when they lost at home with a Amauri goal is a good example. Fiorentina was shit that season.Also they had much better team than ours. Thiago Silva,Ibrahimovic etc.Again ,it's my opinion .I am convinced about this.Alegri is a good tactician but Conte was a better motivator and prepared the games better with all his mistakes also.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others
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:lol:
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others
.
:lol:
 

TrezJuve

Senior Member
May 26, 2010
7,414
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others.
Ok, I'll answer seriously. You're defending the draw, all I say is, we should have won as we are the better team so the performance is open to criticism. That's all. In this piss poor serie A, the league is almost a given. We shouldn't settle for the minimum or else it will haunt us (even if chances are slim).
 

TrezJuve

Senior Member
May 26, 2010
7,414
we have failed to do what exactly? did we lose the league?

if the answer is no, then you need a reality check. league is fought over 38 matches, not one. these things happen. it's called making errors. eery single team does it over the cose of a season, glorious robot master race who makes no mistakes.

if the answe is yes, then you need to kill yourself, because your mind is messed up and you present a danger to others.
Ok, I'll answer seriously. You're defending the draw, all I say is, we should have won as we are the better team so the performance is open to criticism. That's all. In this piss poor serie A, the league is almost a given. We shouldn't settle for the minimum or else it will haunt us (even if chances are slim).
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
+7 can be turned into +12 or +3 in a matter of weeks so the fact that so far with as many games as we have played we still remain in 1st says a lot. I think we have been in first place, alone, since maybe October? Maybe even September? I mean, it's Italy chasing us and not the other way around. Not only are we doing well in Coppa but also progressing (further than last year) in the CL. Even if we get eliminated by Dortmund we still made it further than last year which technically is making progress, even if we are all disappointed. Supercup is another trophy sure, but Napoli don't win ship except these random trophies and to them its like do or die. We can't be expected to win a tremble every year. We have our objectives: CL and doing better than last year (CHECK) and leading the league en route to a 4th title (CHECK). Coppa is an opportunity to win another trophy but also play a B team (CHECK).
You missed the point completely. Roma is in horrible form and it won't last forever. You have to take an advantage of that and don't look back. Allegri's job is to prepare to a match and motivate the players. He did neither actually.

No on hates playing Llorente more than myself or @Lion but Morata is getting more and more time on the pitch and Allegri (unlike Conte) learns form his mistakes. Face it, Conte for 3 seasons refused to change pretty much anything. Allegri is MUCH more willing to tinker with things than Conte and it's refreshing. We saw that with the formation change, with the youngers (morata/coman) and letting Tevez/Vidal be more involved in the pitch. We are scoring more goals it seems as well. 49 goals so far that THAT'S WITHOUT A PURE AM SUPPORTING THE STRIKERS. Last season we had 80 goals and 24 against. We are more than on track of improving that ratio. We still have 15 rounds left in the season.
It's not true. The fact he keeps playing Pirlo and Llorente so much proves otherwise. Yes, he's not as stubborn as Conte but still. Everyone makes mistakes but he should have quickly realized Pirlo should be taken off with Marchisio and Vidal playing as DMs. Our midfield lost too many battles in the middle and defense was too exposed. He didn't fix it and only he knows why.

Llorente played yesterday because Tevez was suspended on yellows. We can't avoid that. Which is a reason why bringing back Zaza seems like such a good idea at this point despite his naysayers.
Keeping playing Llorente is another proof of that he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Yes in this particular match it could have been justified why he played Llorente but I'm still not convinced. He had some hope in Coman and Pepe after all since he decided to throw them in. Llorente should have been taken off much earlier as to my liking but playing him in this game is not my biggest accusation, don't get me wrong. I'm frustrated with Allegri giving him so many chances overall rather than in this particular match.
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
+7 can be turned into +12 or +3 in a matter of weeks so the fact that so far with as many games as we have played we still remain in 1st says a lot. I think we have been in first place, alone, since maybe October? Maybe even September? I mean, it's Italy chasing us and not the other way around. Not only are we doing well in Coppa but also progressing (further than last year) in the CL. Even if we get eliminated by Dortmund we still made it further than last year which technically is making progress, even if we are all disappointed. Supercup is another trophy sure, but Napoli don't win ship except these random trophies and to them its like do or die. We can't be expected to win a tremble every year. We have our objectives: CL and doing better than last year (CHECK) and leading the league en route to a 4th title (CHECK). Coppa is an opportunity to win another trophy but also play a B team (CHECK).
You missed the point completely. Roma is in horrible form and it won't last forever. You have to take an advantage of that and don't look back. Allegri's job is to prepare to a match and motivate the players. He did neither actually.

No on hates playing Llorente more than myself or @Lion but Morata is getting more and more time on the pitch and Allegri (unlike Conte) learns form his mistakes. Face it, Conte for 3 seasons refused to change pretty much anything. Allegri is MUCH more willing to tinker with things than Conte and it's refreshing. We saw that with the formation change, with the youngers (morata/coman) and letting Tevez/Vidal be more involved in the pitch. We are scoring more goals it seems as well. 49 goals so far that THAT'S WITHOUT A PURE AM SUPPORTING THE STRIKERS. Last season we had 80 goals and 24 against. We are more than on track of improving that ratio. We still have 15 rounds left in the season.
It's not true. The fact he keeps playing Pirlo and Llorente so much proves otherwise. Yes, he's not as stubborn as Conte but still. Everyone makes mistakes but he should have quickly realized Pirlo should be taken off with Marchisio and Vidal playing as DMs. Our midfield lost too many battles in the middle and defense was too exposed. He didn't fix it and only he knows why.

Llorente played yesterday because Tevez was suspended on yellows. We can't avoid that. Which is a reason why bringing back Zaza seems like such a good idea at this point despite his naysayers.
Keeping playing Llorente is another proof of that he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Yes in this particular match it could have been justified why he played Llorente but I'm still not convinced. He had some hope in Coman and Pepe after all since he decided to throw them in. Llorente should have been taken off much earlier as to my liking but playing him in this game is not my biggest accusation, don't get me wrong. I'm frustrated with Allegri giving him so many chances overall rather than in this particular match.
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,493
why stop ruining our secondbest offensive mid, and ruin the best one instead ? odd logic

Pogba and vidal are fine if Marchisio does his cm(d) thing. what is in front of those 3 doesnt matter, as long as pirlo isnt behind them .
I wouldnt do it personally but if we don't bench pirlo one has to play that am role and Vidal is pretty bad at it.... With Pogba you have at least a player capable of beating his man and his passing ability is better than vidals.... I mean why on earth would u put Vidal in there but not Pogba, doesnt mean anyone of those 2 should play it.
 

mondo1

Senior Member
May 14, 2006
11,493
why stop ruining our secondbest offensive mid, and ruin the best one instead ? odd logic

Pogba and vidal are fine if Marchisio does his cm(d) thing. what is in front of those 3 doesnt matter, as long as pirlo isnt behind them .
I wouldnt do it personally but if we don't bench pirlo one has to play that am role and Vidal is pretty bad at it.... With Pogba you have at least a player capable of beating his man and his passing ability is better than vidals.... I mean why on earth would u put Vidal in there but not Pogba, doesnt mean anyone of those 2 should play it.
 

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