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king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
You're just upset that Allegri just trolled his detractors enormously hard.

For once, what seems like a nonsensical sub on the surface (taking out your best scorer and putting in a second-string defender with a man down, minutes to go, and you need a goal) actually makes more sense in hindsight. The way Torino was counterattacking and breaking things open, and with Pererya put in the wrong role over covering RB, it allowed the team to press forward and build from the back.

Ballzy, stupid, or both, Nucky must have a shit-eating grin in private, because in the end it worked.
Very well said.
 

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DeviAngel

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2014
3,693
I'm glad he made the formation switch but he's starting to do weird moves since Vidal came back. He wants to play all 4 best CMs we have: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio which is a mistake for several reasons. If he plays all of them they're deadtired after 3 matches played in short period of time. He has to rotate more, especially in Serie A. Pogba and Marchisio normally run all the time but today they couldn't keep it up. Another reason is that Vidal is not an AM and we have Pereyra who is better in that role. He gives us pace, counter attacking threat and stretches the play very well. Vidal is better as b2b anyway. With Vidal as Am we're slow and predictable which causes Juve to lose the ball too often which leaves the vulnerable to counters.

Allegri has to sort it out himself but if he keeps going like this we might run out of luck eventually.
The midfield is our biggest and strongest weapon, that's the reason why Juve has 3 titles in a row. We have to play to our maximum strength until we get like 6-9+ points. Vidal needs playing time to find his rhythm and he must use him against this kind of teams plus even thou he might not be the best in AM position there's no player (Bar Marchisio) who runs more than him in defense even thou he plays so high on the pitch. I love Pereyra and I think he will be class player and I think his dribbling is awesome he did it today also when he entered the game but he needs time and to work on his finishing, you can't have trequartista who can't finish and kill off the game its just wrong.
 

DeviAngel

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2014
3,693
I'm glad he made the formation switch but he's starting to do weird moves since Vidal came back. He wants to play all 4 best CMs we have: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio which is a mistake for several reasons. If he plays all of them they're deadtired after 3 matches played in short period of time. He has to rotate more, especially in Serie A. Pogba and Marchisio normally run all the time but today they couldn't keep it up. Another reason is that Vidal is not an AM and we have Pereyra who is better in that role. He gives us pace, counter attacking threat and stretches the play very well. Vidal is better as b2b anyway. With Vidal as Am we're slow and predictable which causes Juve to lose the ball too often which leaves the vulnerable to counters.

Allegri has to sort it out himself but if he keeps going like this we might run out of luck eventually.
The midfield is our biggest and strongest weapon, that's the reason why Juve has 3 titles in a row. We have to play to our maximum strength until we get like 6-9+ points. Vidal needs playing time to find his rhythm and he must use him against this kind of teams plus even thou he might not be the best in AM position there's no player (Bar Marchisio) who runs more than him in defense even thou he plays so high on the pitch. I love Pereyra and I think he will be class player and I think his dribbling is awesome he did it today also when he entered the game but he needs time and to work on his finishing, you can't have trequartista who can't finish and kill off the game its just wrong.
 

FuriaCeca

Senior Member
Jun 2, 2014
727
Truth be said, Allegri made all the right choices today. He subbed in Morata and gave him more than 30 min to change something, he also gave pereyra a run while resting Marchisio who ran his socks off.

He also subbed Ogbonna in wich was the right thing to do, we were on the verg of losing the game by that time, our defense and stability were horrible and he had to do something. Since we don't have any fit RB to sub in, he had to change to a back 3 with Pereyra on the wing. Right after the change we could control the game again. Even if we hadn't score, this would have been the right choice.

As for the Pereyra/Vidal debate I have to disagree about playing all 4 midfielder concept, at least untill Vidal is back to his best.

It's not about who is a better AM, it's about the different approach. Vidal is more static, he recieves the ball between the lines and looks to make smart passes. He can make runs in the channels and score like a striker.

Pereyra on the other hand is much better at going straight forward with the ball in his feet. His play is very direct and he likes to face the defense face to face. Pereyra also drops often to the right wing to link up with Stephan, giving Carlos lots of space to operate.

Also I still think we lose alot by playing Vidal in the AM role. Vidal is at his best in the B2b position in my eyes. All in all I would say I would like to see Pereyra take the AM/RW role and let Vidal return to his B2B position.
 

FuriaCeca

Senior Member
Jun 2, 2014
727
Truth be said, Allegri made all the right choices today. He subbed in Morata and gave him more than 30 min to change something, he also gave pereyra a run while resting Marchisio who ran his socks off.

He also subbed Ogbonna in wich was the right thing to do, we were on the verg of losing the game by that time, our defense and stability were horrible and he had to do something. Since we don't have any fit RB to sub in, he had to change to a back 3 with Pereyra on the wing. Right after the change we could control the game again. Even if we hadn't score, this would have been the right choice.

As for the Pereyra/Vidal debate I have to disagree about playing all 4 midfielder concept, at least untill Vidal is back to his best.

It's not about who is a better AM, it's about the different approach. Vidal is more static, he recieves the ball between the lines and looks to make smart passes. He can make runs in the channels and score like a striker.

Pereyra on the other hand is much better at going straight forward with the ball in his feet. His play is very direct and he likes to face the defense face to face. Pereyra also drops often to the right wing to link up with Stephan, giving Carlos lots of space to operate.

Also I still think we lose alot by playing Vidal in the AM role. Vidal is at his best in the B2b position in my eyes. All in all I would say I would like to see Pereyra take the AM/RW role and let Vidal return to his B2B position.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
best part if match besides pirlo goal and allegri grin?

Allegri yelling dai dai dai when Stephan was getting his head patched.

i died laughing
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
best part if match besides pirlo goal and allegri grin?

Allegri yelling dai dai dai when Stephan was getting his head patched.

i died laughing
 

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