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AlexOB

Senior Member
Apr 2, 2014
701
I'm glad he made the formation switch but he's starting to do weird moves since Vidal came back. He wants to play all 4 best CMs we have: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio which is a mistake for several reasons. If he plays all of them they're deadtired after 3 matches played in short period of time. He has to rotate more, especially in Serie A. Pogba and Marchisio normally run all the time but today they couldn't keep it up. Another reason is that Vidal is not an AM and we have Pereyra who is better in that role. He gives us pace, counter attacking threat and stretches the play very well. Vidal is better as b2b anyway. With Vidal as Am we're slow and predictable which causes Juve to lose the ball too often which leaves the vulnerable to counters.

Allegri has to sort it out himself but if he keeps going like this we might run out of luck eventually.
Hopefully you can teach him and we can improve our results. Since he's done that we're all been going downhill, eventually we might run out of luck.

And we don't play a 4-3-1-2 with a proper AM, ffs, you make it sound like if we are Ancelotti's Milan and Allegri wants Vidal to be a Kaka. :lol: And Pereyra would not be able to do that job too, you don't have a clear idea about the player if you think so.

You've been posting this shit with Pereyra as a starter everywhere, like if this is something obvious that just a clown wouldn't see, while Roberto, that I appreciate, has nothing better than our top 4 midfielders. Not a great dribbler, he didn't beat his man once against Toro in the last minutes in the right flank today and he was fresh. His passing is better than Vidal? Nah. His timing? Nah. His drive and tackling? No. We're often shaped as a 4-2-2-2/4-1-3-2 and he's not better than Vidal or Pogba in those position. Vidal has had his job today, he was mobile and smart as requested by this system, he interchanged his position with Marchisio to let him go in sometimes, with a tactical acume that I'm not sure Pereyra would have had. Vidal was one of the best in the pitch today IMO, even if the overall performance of the team wasn't high and they were all tired, Arturo too, and showed it. But Pereyra played today a full half hour and didn't do nothing to deserve a safe starting spot as you claim.

Then you say Allegro is doing weird (???) things to play all our 4 CMs. First of all, all of them are world class players that would play pretty much everywhere, don't give a fuck about the hype or Serie A statements. Then in 5 matches with the new system, they played just in 3 of them, and there was even the international break in the middle. Pereyra even started an important match like Lazio away, when Vidal was available.

Let's hope the guy gets a clue soon, however, he can't see such obvious things... If he did whatever he had too we'd have played in a good way perhaps, instead of scraping in ugly matches and slow football with Vidal AM. :lol:
 

AlexOB

Senior Member
Apr 2, 2014
701
I'm glad he made the formation switch but he's starting to do weird moves since Vidal came back. He wants to play all 4 best CMs we have: Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio which is a mistake for several reasons. If he plays all of them they're deadtired after 3 matches played in short period of time. He has to rotate more, especially in Serie A. Pogba and Marchisio normally run all the time but today they couldn't keep it up. Another reason is that Vidal is not an AM and we have Pereyra who is better in that role. He gives us pace, counter attacking threat and stretches the play very well. Vidal is better as b2b anyway. With Vidal as Am we're slow and predictable which causes Juve to lose the ball too often which leaves the vulnerable to counters.

Allegri has to sort it out himself but if he keeps going like this we might run out of luck eventually.
Hopefully you can teach him and we can improve our results. Since he's done that we're all been going downhill, eventually we might run out of luck.

And we don't play a 4-3-1-2 with a proper AM, ffs, you make it sound like if we are Ancelotti's Milan and Allegri wants Vidal to be a Kaka. :lol: And Pereyra would not be able to do that job too, you don't have a clear idea about the player if you think so.

You've been posting this shit with Pereyra as a starter everywhere, like if this is something obvious that just a clown wouldn't see, while Roberto, that I appreciate, has nothing better than our top 4 midfielders. Not a great dribbler, he didn't beat his man once against Toro in the last minutes in the right flank today and he was fresh. His passing is better than Vidal? Nah. His timing? Nah. His drive and tackling? No. We're often shaped as a 4-2-2-2/4-1-3-2 and he's not better than Vidal or Pogba in those position. Vidal has had his job today, he was mobile and smart as requested by this system, he interchanged his position with Marchisio to let him go in sometimes, with a tactical acume that I'm not sure Pereyra would have had. Vidal was one of the best in the pitch today IMO, even if the overall performance of the team wasn't high and they were all tired, Arturo too, and showed it. But Pereyra played today a full half hour and didn't do nothing to deserve a safe starting spot as you claim.

Then you say Allegro is doing weird (???) things to play all our 4 CMs. First of all, all of them are world class players that would play pretty much everywhere, don't give a fuck about the hype or Serie A statements. Then in 5 matches with the new system, they played just in 3 of them, and there was even the international break in the middle. Pereyra even started an important match like Lazio away, when Vidal was available.

Let's hope the guy gets a clue soon, however, he can't see such obvious things... If he did whatever he had too we'd have played in a good way perhaps, instead of scraping in ugly matches and slow football with Vidal AM. :lol:
 

HAZEM

L'architetto
Apr 22, 2008
8,219
Hopefully you can teach him and we can improve our results. Since he's done that we're all been going downhill, eventually we might run out of luck.

And we don't play a 4-3-1-2 with a proper AM, ffs, you make it sound like if we are Ancelotti's Milan and Allegri wants Vidal to be a Kaka. :lol: And Pereyra would not be able to do that job too, you don't have a clear idea about the player if you think so.

You've been posting this $#@! with Pereyra as a starter everywhere, like if this is something obvious that just a clown wouldn't see, while Roberto, that I appreciate, has nothing better than our top 4 midfielders. Not a great dribbler, he didn't beat his man once against Toro in the last minutes in the right flank today and he was fresh. His passing is better than Vidal? Nah. His timing? Nah. His drive and tackling? No. We're often shaped as a 4-2-2-2/4-1-3-2 and he's not better than Vidal or Pogba in those position. Vidal has had his job today, he was mobile and smart as requested by this system, he interchanged his position with Marchisio to let him go in sometimes, with a tactical acume that I'm not sure Pereyra would have had. Vidal was one of the best in the pitch today IMO, even if the overall performance of the team wasn't high and they were all tired, Arturo too, and showed it. But Pereyra played today a full half hour and didn't do nothing to deserve a safe starting spot as you claim.

Then you say Allegro is doing weird (???) things to play all our 4 CMs. First of all, all of them are world class players that would play pretty much everywhere, don't give a $#@! about the hype or Serie A statements. Then in 5 matches with the new system, they played just in 3 of them, and there was even the international break in the middle. Pereyra even started an important match like Lazio away, when Vidal was available.

Let's hope the guy gets a clue soon, however, he can't see such obvious things... If he did whatever he had too we'd have played in a good way perhaps, instead of scraping in ugly matches and slow football with Vidal AM. :lol:
EPIC :tup:
 

HAZEM

L'architetto
Apr 22, 2008
8,219
Hopefully you can teach him and we can improve our results. Since he's done that we're all been going downhill, eventually we might run out of luck.

And we don't play a 4-3-1-2 with a proper AM, ffs, you make it sound like if we are Ancelotti's Milan and Allegri wants Vidal to be a Kaka. :lol: And Pereyra would not be able to do that job too, you don't have a clear idea about the player if you think so.

You've been posting this $#@! with Pereyra as a starter everywhere, like if this is something obvious that just a clown wouldn't see, while Roberto, that I appreciate, has nothing better than our top 4 midfielders. Not a great dribbler, he didn't beat his man once against Toro in the last minutes in the right flank today and he was fresh. His passing is better than Vidal? Nah. His timing? Nah. His drive and tackling? No. We're often shaped as a 4-2-2-2/4-1-3-2 and he's not better than Vidal or Pogba in those position. Vidal has had his job today, he was mobile and smart as requested by this system, he interchanged his position with Marchisio to let him go in sometimes, with a tactical acume that I'm not sure Pereyra would have had. Vidal was one of the best in the pitch today IMO, even if the overall performance of the team wasn't high and they were all tired, Arturo too, and showed it. But Pereyra played today a full half hour and didn't do nothing to deserve a safe starting spot as you claim.

Then you say Allegro is doing weird (???) things to play all our 4 CMs. First of all, all of them are world class players that would play pretty much everywhere, don't give a $#@! about the hype or Serie A statements. Then in 5 matches with the new system, they played just in 3 of them, and there was even the international break in the middle. Pereyra even started an important match like Lazio away, when Vidal was available.

Let's hope the guy gets a clue soon, however, he can't see such obvious things... If he did whatever he had too we'd have played in a good way perhaps, instead of scraping in ugly matches and slow football with Vidal AM. :lol:
EPIC :tup:
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,696
Formations and tactical changes aside, just the mere fact that we came back vs Olympiakos and in this match ... is so valuable.That spirit of never giving up!! Well done Allegri for making sure our players don't forget it.
 
Aug 1, 2003
17,696
Formations and tactical changes aside, just the mere fact that we came back vs Olympiakos and in this match ... is so valuable.That spirit of never giving up!! Well done Allegri for making sure our players don't forget it.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
You're just upset that Allegri just trolled his detractors enormously hard.

For once, what seems like a nonsensical sub on the surface (taking out your best scorer and putting in a second-string defender with a man down, minutes to go, and you need a goal) actually makes more sense in hindsight. The way Torino was counterattacking and breaking things open, and with Pererya put in the wrong role over covering RB, it allowed the team to press forward and build from the back.

Ballzy, stupid, or both, Nucky must have a shit-eating grin in private, because in the end it worked.
Very well said.
 

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