Massimiliano Allegri (256 Viewers)

[Rockets]

7 consecutive clean sheet and 7 GA in 16 rounds are phenomenal, but it seems to be again the "lets figure out on the defensive end first and then see what we can do on the offensive end to finally build a team with identity" illusion. Our attack is still a mess and I really have low hope on Max to fix that.

 

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[Hist]

Ive been one of his biggesr critics. However, he managed to fix the defense by conceding only 7 goals in Serie A, one of the finest defenses in Europe. Only Barca is doing better conceding only 6.

Barca isn't exactly thriving, hence why a singular stat can be misleading. No one in their right mind would seriously say that Juve and Barca are the hardest teams to beat, as shown by most teams with some offensive prowess that face either club.

I see what he is doing as super pragmatic. He has no faith in playing a somewhat offensive or controlling game plan against minnows, and finds it safer to shut shop, and hopefully snatch a goal. And its working, they are struggling to break us down, and we are picking up the results with the odd jihadi goal. Smaller Serie A clubs with limited fire power don't know what to do against that, and its working. In short, how do we have this defensive record in recent Serie A games? its at the expense of offensive output. When looking at offensive stats consider who the opposition names are. Clean sheets against minnows is not the same as against giants. Similarly, small chance creation, x goals and goals against minnows says something different about the team than if it was against giants. In the meantime we are collecting points and the team is getting some confidence back.

This approach doesnt work as well against teams who know how to break down a defense and luckily there arent many of those in Italy. I wouldnt be surprised if we go gung-ho against Napoli at some point in the game. He may try to sit back at first but if it doesnt work (likely) dont be surprised if he suddenly flips the approach fully and then we'll all wonder why he didnt set us out to play like that from the start.

Whats the benefit of this approach? Points and cleansheets against minnows which builds up confidence and probably a top 4 finish. Whats the cost? our offensive gameplay is not developing which is necessary for building a team that can challenge and win at the highest level especially outside of Italy. We might end up finishing top 4 but zero progress on how to dominate big teams

 

[IlCapitano]

7 consecutive clean sheet and 7 GA in 16 rounds are phenomenal, but it seems to be again the "lets figure out on the defensive end first and then see what we can do on the offensive end to finally build a team with identity" illusion. Our attack is still a mess and I really have low hope on Max to fix that.

So exactly how it should be then?

 

[Vlad]

Finest defenses in Europe that got humiliated by each of three teams in the champions league group stages?

He's done a decent job over the past two months but let's not go that far.

We'd still look like losers who had a lucky winning streak if we don't win anything this season.

Allegro's salami munchers tried to convince everyone that this squad is 'nowhere near scudetto level' but it's fairly obvious to everyone that it's a top 2 squad in the league. We should be doing better than we have this season.

I dont recall anyone doing that. It is clear this team has been underperforming before finally picking it up. As much as he got criticized at the start of campaign, he should get some credit after this run. Ultimately he needs to bring trophies or his time will be up at the end of season.

 

[Rockets]

So exactly how it should be then?

I dunno how it should be. Maybe it's the right strategy to fix things one step at a time. Just wondering he can also greatly bolster the offense. If he can, then yes in Allegri we trust. But given the team's offensive output since his second spell, I'm not getting my hopes high.

 

[Vlad]

Ive been one of his biggesr critics. However, he managed to fix the defense by conceding only 7 goals in Serie A, one of the finest defenses in Europe. Only Barca is doing better conceding only 6.

There is improvement I agree. Its not ideal but players are gaining confidence and belief we could turn this around, while instilling fear into opposition. Any win is massive at this point as this is still a fragile team with a lot of young players getting their chance. Unlike in any of the seasons before. Performance is irrelevant if we keep squeezing wins. 50 days without a game time for some players is bound to reflect on the pitch. Before the break in games against Inter (2nd half) and Lazio we looked like finally being able to play to our potential. We created loads of chances, while preserving defensive solidity at the back. Lets see this Saturday and more importantly how we will handle Napoli. The game against Napoli is the game of the season for us. Lets do this.

 

[Hist]

So exactly how it should be then?

Depends on his vision for what the final form of Juve is.

Take Klopp for instance. His idea of football is clear from the get-go. He believes in high tempo high press style and coaches to that from the start even from before he had the right kind of players that fit his style of play. Results suffer at the start, the defense is leaking, the midfield cannot cope with this style of football but over time they get better at it, introduce or grow players that can adapt to this system and eventually they the defense stopped leaking and they became a high scoring, offensive team with a very solid defensive record despite not being a deep defending team.

They're going for the second cycle now. He has every temptation to shut shop, sit deep and hit on counters only, but if that becomes their default tactic rather than a one-off against City or similar, then they'll never learn to play the offensive system effectively with the new younger players they're bring in. Elliot, Curtis Jones, Darwin and that Greek defender dont know how to thrive in that system yet but they'll keep going at it until it clicks or other players will take their spot.

So alternative ways are possible for coaches with more progressive ideas of football. But we know from the man himself that he has no interest in that.

 

[Siamak]

llegri's pre-Udinese press conference:

▫️On Vialli: 'We will all miss him'
▫️On Di Maria' fitness ahead of the match
▫️On Matias Soule, Chiesa and Kean
▫️On Cuadrado and De Sciglio fitness
▫️On Bremer, Rugani, Sandro and Danilo

- - - Updated - - -

https://maxstatman.com/juventus-pre...-ahead-of-the-match-against-udinese-and-more/

 

[Robee]

Well… if half our starting XI is unfit all the time isn’t that sorta on him and his fitness staff too?

Well, the fitness staff, yes. And the responsibilities have been changed internally as media reported? We can't blame them for Vlahovic having pubalgia, Chiesa tearing his ACL last season or Pogba having a meniscus tear, can we? Maybe Di Maria's muscles injuries, sure. But those 4 would make all the difference attacking wise. Let's see what happens in the next few months. I'd say it's do or die for him.

 

[Hist]

Well, the fitness staff, yes. And the responsibilities have been changed internally as media reported? We can't blame them for Vlahovic having pubalgia, Chiesa tearing his ACL last season or Pogba having a meniscus tear, can we? Maybe Di Maria's muscles injuries, sure. But those 4 would make all the difference attacking wise. Let's see what happens in the next few months. I'd say it's do or die for him.

And the head coach too, he is in charge of all of them. Pogba is on whoever was involved in okaying the transfer because his injury history was pretty well known to all, Chiesa and Vlahovic are something else. Having said that, its not as if all 4 have been injured throughout the last year and half. Vlahovic was here for our worst periods and it wouldnt be a surprise if Chiesa and Vlahovic struggle in our game plan.

 

[Robee]

And the head coach too, he is in charge of all of them. Pogba is on whoever was involved in okaying the transfer because his injury history was pretty well known to all, Chiesa and Vlahovic are something else. Having said that, its not as if all 4 have been injured throughout the last year and half. Vlahovic was here for our worst periods and it wouldnt be a surprise if Chiesa and Vlahovic struggle in our game plan.

Pogba literally had one injury. People judging a 4 year deal on that are jumping the gun.

Also, the head coach let's people with specific specialties work their best.

I'd say they have been absent/present for different periods which has always cretaed a problem area somewhere. Let's not act as if we've a stacked squad and our coach is ruining it.

They're all pretty close to returning now so I guess we'll see sooner rather than later what it does to our attacking game.

 

[singus]

Sack

 

[IlCapitano]

 

[singus]

Fraud is aging worse than Sarri. His time is soon up either way.

 

[#10]

Whislt Pep used to bore opponents into oblivion by tikka takka, max has his own brand.

 

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[HelterSkelter]

Max be maxing.

Anyont know why Agnelli is still attending games and handing out awards etc? I thought he resigned.


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[juve123]

Grande mister fuck the haters.

 

[Post Ironic]

8 straight wins, 0 goals conceded.

Fix the attack now and we’ll be pretty good.

 

[Vlad]

Grazzie mister! 8 in a row, 8 clean sheets in a row. Let the crying beggin.