Massimiliano Allegri (268 Viewers)

[Juventino[RUS]]

Yo moma licks poles in the street


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Do you still have that pic of you licking that pole or was it a bus stop?? Man, time flies. I don't remember.

 

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[Nzoric]

Do you still have that pic of you licking that pole or was it a bus stop?? Man, time flies. I don't remember.

There’s a pole in the background. I made two fingers look like ze pussy and stuck my tongue through.


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[Juventino[RUS]]

There’s a pole in the background. I made two fingers look like ze pussy and stuck my tongue through.


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Golden times of TUZ

 

[JuveE46]

Damn this shit is what it must feel like walking into an eyes wide shut party with gangbang subgroups and cokeheads swinging of the chandelier.

#Tuzizdabest

 

[s4tch]

What does wages have to do with Cancelo's departure? You've started this talk with your bs about plusvalenza, now its about wages?

This is what i've said Plusvalenza is about capital gains, for the profit earned on the sale of an asset. You've said i know nothing. And now this? So you wanted to play a smart boy card, it didn't work, now you telling me that i was right Bloody hell

for the record, you asked this stupid question: "What does wages have to do with Cancelo's departure?" googling a definition won't make you look smarter, especially when you don't answer your stupid question with it.

again, for the record, plusvalenza isn't ABOUT capital gains, it IS capital gains. one is an italian word for it, the other is an english. it's like explaining second striker with seconda punta. what you googled didn't answer your own stupid question, it just made more obvious that you have no idea what the fuck you're blabbering about.

and the answer to your stupid question is very simple: wages are costs, just like your electricity bills and purchase of players' registration rights, so to cover them, you need some revenue. that's why you need to sell players sometimes. fucking obvious for anyone with a brain.

but but you found a definition. you're so smart.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

for the record, you asked this stupid question: "What does wages have to do with Cancelo's departure?" googling a definition won't make you look smarter, especially when you don't answer your stupid question with it.

again, for the record, plusvalenza isn't ABOUT capital gains, it IS capital gains. one is an italian word for it, the other is an english. it's like explaining second striker with seconda punta. what you googled didn't answer your own stupid question, it just made more obvious that you have no idea what the fuck you're blabbering about.

and the answer to your stupid question is very simple: wages are costs, just like your electricity bills and purchase of players' registration rights, so to cover them, you need some revenue. that's why you need to sell players sometimes. fucking obvious for anyone with a brain.

but but you found a definition. you're so smart.

That's exactly what i've said, Juventus had to sell Spina and Cancelo to cover De Ligt's transfer. That's exactly what you are saying to me. You just decided to be smart but instead crap yourself.

 

[Hydde]

You should see another even more insane case, where he now ridiculed someone for saying that the 2 games against Tottenham were close encounters that could have gone both ways. Those games were definitely not close but we clearly dominated and won those games, according to PI recently.

Then I digged up his actual post-game comment right after that Tottenham game, where he said that those games were 50/50 games and could have gone both ways.

So with PI, we know that he can say one thing and try to ridicule you if you disagree, and later he will say the exact opposite and now again try to ridicule you. There is no shame, all tricks to win on Tuz.

We were lucky as fuck in the game In england, after a ridículos game at juventus stadium.

Whoever who said we dominated both games is delusional. Allegri al. Ost ficned up both games but a super lucky 10 mins saved pur asses In en gland

 

[s4tch]

That's exactly what i've said, Juventus had to sell Spina and Cancelo to cover De Ligt's transfer. That's exactly what you are saying to me. You just decided to be smart but instead crap yourself.

you made an assumption about de ligt being the deciding factor. i said that it wasn't only de ligt, because we had a financially more important player and his costs to take care of. still, your assumption wasn't inheritely bad, it was just an assumption.

but that's when you lost track and started to talk nonsense. how are wages and plusvalenza related, jesus christ, how can someone act so stupid and so arrogant at the same time

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

you made an assumption about de ligt being the deciding factor. i said that it wasn't only de ligt, because we had a financially more important player and his costs to take care of. still, your assumption wasn't inheritely bad, it was just an assumption.

but that's when you lost track and started to talk nonsense. how are wages and plusvalenza related, jesus christ, how can someone act so stupid and so arrogant at the same time

Just same repetitive bs. We wouldn't need to sell them without MDL's arrival, it's just as simple as that. And all is what you are doing now is just trying to drag me into "well, you was right but you should have also said this and that"

 

[Vlad]

We needed to sell them and we have been making pluvalenza deals to balance the books because on the other side we had CR's huge salary and amortisation costs. We would do most of the sales before 1st of July, end of financial year to remain within FFP.

 

[zizinho]

We were lucky as fuck in the game In england, after a ridículos game at juventus stadium.

Whoever who said we dominated both games is delusional. Allegri al. Ost ficned up both games but a super lucky 10 mins saved pur asses In en gland

Tottenham was lucky in Italy though. 2-0 and higuain missed a penalty. It killed the momentum and have them the push. In England, you could say we were lucky, but it was Allegris tactical adjustment in the 2nd half that turned it over

 

[s4tch]

Just same repetitive bs.

says the guy who asked the same stupid question 10 times, ignored the answers, didn't understand shit, then came back with a definition he google that had nothing to do with his utterly stupid question just stop.

anyway, you had your answer, now it's your turn: what's your age? education? still living with your mother? tuz is your life?

 

[zizinho]

We needed to sell them and we have been making pluvalenza deals to balance the books because on the other side we had CR's huge salary and amortisation costs. We would do most of the sales before 1st of July, end of financial year to remain within FFP.

Maybe without that stupid rule we would say fuck it, lets go i to the minus for the few years Ronaldo is here?

Also, i think some of the transfers during that time were money throw aways, starting from Bonucci and D. Costa, Perin (i like Perin but 14M for 2nd keeper, when there is 100 freebie GK each summer), Favilli 7M (dont remember the context but lol), Kulusevski and Romero, more than half the money for Cancelo and Spina going the other way, Arthur, Morata 2x 10M... not a single starter here except Bonucci, but De Vrij would have been one as well had we signed him jnstead of letting him go to inter. Not to mention the atrocious sales

You can say we needed the money for Ronaldo, but you can also say it could have been done in a much better way than it was done. And this is only during Ronaldos time here, there were examples before too

 

[Vlad]

Maybe without that stupid rule we would say fuck it, lets go i to the minus for the few years Ronaldo is here?

Also, i think some of the transfers during that time were money throw aways, starting from Bonucci and D. Costa, Perin (i like Perin but 14M for 2nd keeper, when there is 100 freebie GK each summer), Favilli 7M (dont remember the context but lol), Kulusevski and Romero, more than half the money for Cancelo and Spina going the other way, Arthur, Morata 2x 10M... not a single starter here except Bonucci, but De Vrij would have been one as well had we signed him jnstead of letting him go to inter. Not to mention the atrocious sales

You can say we needed the money for Ronaldo, but you can also say it could have been done in a much better way than it was done. And this is only during Ronaldos time here, there were examples before too

Its fair to say we did pretty bad in a lot of transfer deals that will have consequences in years to come. Im glad we reduced wage bill for this year, so thats a positive and will free up some funds. With CR's arrival we became too obsessed with short term goals, CL, while completely ruining financial stability. We are also very fortunate to have a backing of a huge company so they can make influx of capital or supply us with loans via one of joint companies.

 

[zizinho]

Its fair to say we did pretty bad in a lot of transfer deals that will have consequences in years to come. Im glad we reduced wage bill for this year, so thats a positive and will free up some funds. With CR's arrival we became too obsessed with short term goals, CL, while completely ruining financial stability. We are also very fortunate to have a backing of a huge company so they can make influx of capital or supply us with loans via one of joint companies.

Yes, if they didn't plan to make the team stronger around him, in the end it was a pointless move. We had the best shot in the first year of CR actually, because the team was still somewhat great, although declining. After that, since we spend so much energy on fixing the books instead of fixing the squad, it was just dragging out the inevitable. The team was aging and in dire need of a rebuild, which we handled terrible and started way too late. So now without Ronaldo, this is what we are left with

 

[Post Ironic]

RUS still going strong

 

[campionesidd]

RUS still going strong

Did you copy that from the Allegri throater group chat or did you come up with that yourself?

 

[Hist]

Yes, if they didn't plan to make the team stronger around him, in the end it was a pointless move. We had the best shot in the first year of CR actually, because the team was still somewhat great, although declining. After that, since we spend so much energy on fixing the books instead of fixing the squad, it was just dragging out the inevitable. The team was aging and in dire need of a rebuild, which we handled terrible and started way too late. So now without Ronaldo, this is what we are left with

I don't blame them for taking a moderate risk in signing Ronaldo and De Ligt. Even Rabiot looked like a good deal, French international from a big club for free who hasn't peaked yet. With all these I could see what they were trying to do.

Covid turned that moderate risk to high risk because suddenly finances got hit. They couldn't have foreseen that ofc.

However, the decision I never saw sense in was hiring Pirlo. When Sarri failed to produce the intended outcome I assumed they'd go bigger and better or at minimum try a similar profile of manager, not go for a complete noob. Why did they think he'd succeed where Allegri and Sarri didn't?

 

[juve_juve_juve]

This time next year, if we aren't in the title race, then we should move on from Allegri.

Allegri is a top coach who is being entrusted upon by the management to get back to winning ways. He is not going to create any long term philosophy. He's hired to win titles.

The Liverpool example of their owners giving enough time for Klopp doesn't apply here. Liverpool didn't win 9 titles in a row before falling of a cliff. They hadn't won a championship for almost 30 years before Klopp came in.

Juventus have maintained a winning tradition for the entirety of last decade with the biggest budget in the league.

To go from there to having Union level expectations because Inter and Milan have 'better teams' right now is a pretty low bar for a club of this level.

Hopefully we have a strong mercato this summer and we are back to where we should be.

That's one of the issues from the management and fans.,. You had the wrong expectations.

Nobody wins all the time forever.

It's okay to rebuild and not win for a while after a cycle of winning.

The management fell into the ego trap after not getting the 10th Scudetto...

 

[zizinho]

I don't blame them for taking a moderate risk in signing Ronaldo and De Ligt. Even Rabiot looked like a good deal, French international from a big club for free who hasn't peaked yet. With all these I could see what they were trying to do.

Covid turned that moderate risk to high risk because suddenly finances got hit. They couldn't have foreseen that ofc.

However, the decision I never saw sense in was hiring Pirlo. When Sarri failed to produce the intended outcome I assumed they'd go bigger and better or at minimum try a similar profile of manager, not go for a complete noob. Why did they think he'd succeed where Allegri and Sarri didn't?

The team was on a decline in 2018 already. 2017 felt like the peak of that generation. Buffon wasnt getting younger, Bonucci was sold (good move, but we undone it), Chiellini was still great but old. Benatia was a good starter but not great. Dani Alves left without replacement (plus Licht left a year after). Alex Sandro started to decline and we didnt sign a alternative. Asamoah left for free, who was used a lot that year. Khedira was on his last legs, and we should have sold in 2017 when he had some value. We got Higuain who was a stop gap, etc. Simply put, the moves that lead to Ronaldo were not good. Not in terms of individual quality at the time they happened maybe, but in terms of long term investment and team building. Of the guys that were there when Ronaldo arrived, whos here now? Szczesny, AS, Cuadrado, Dybala, Berna, Chiellini, Rugani, De Sciglio, who else? And what are the positions we got better in? Even those names, 3-4 should leave this summer atleast. Some of the good things we did we also undone, like Cancelo, Romero/Demiral. As for Rabiot who you mention, i can even get behind that move, on normal wages and with a role as 3rd-4th mid, behind 2 guys who will do the carrying (we dont have those). Some of the other moves look good out of context and looked individually as well

The idea was maybe good, but the execution was poor, so it failed