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Is EPL title worth 3 scudetti based on websites that post calculated facts or your own opinion that is based on your inner feelings? 
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Exactly. On the paper title in Italy and title in England is the same thing but in reality we do know that the EPL is much more competitive than the Serie A these days
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Every attack is a collective improvisation. No system no patterns no plan. No wonder players will have shit conversion when every attack is like pinball on a bouncy castle.
It literally took Vihalovic intercepting an overhead kick from Morata on its way out to draw 9 men Bologna. Thats how much offensive structure this team has
It literally took Vihalovic intercepting an overhead kick from Morata on its way out to draw 9 men Bologna. Thats how much offensive structure this team has
Anyway that goal yesterday reminded me of that ADP-Trez goal, too bad this time there's no glory whatsoever.
My 2 cents after yesterday:
Its unfair to say we've seen no improvement compared to the start of the season. Not hard to improve on absolute dumpster fire, but we had it almost together for a good part of the season and managed to claw back at least top4.
Allegri overall has been underwhelming this season, Id even say he has not been able to form a team. If we keep him (and I'm pro keeping him for stability purposes, not that he's doing any better than Sarri who I wanted gone, actually worse), Bini and Bene need to listen to him in the summer mercato on who the trouble makers are and help him. And if he needs SMS, find a way to do it.
Its unfair to say we've seen no improvement compared to the start of the season. Not hard to improve on absolute dumpster fire, but we had it almost together for a good part of the season and managed to claw back at least top4.
Allegri overall has been underwhelming this season, Id even say he has not been able to form a team. If we keep him (and I'm pro keeping him for stability purposes, not that he's doing any better than Sarri who I wanted gone, actually worse), Bini and Bene need to listen to him in the summer mercato on who the trouble makers are and help him. And if he needs SMS, find a way to do it.
People don't believe me when i say that he lost his mind. Why do i think so?Because his after match interviews are from not a mentally stable person.
"To get to fourth place we have to go step by step. We see glass half full. We have to do better defensive phase "
"In any case, at the beginning of the season we would have lost these matches, so let's see the glass half full and let's think about preparing the match against Fiorentina. "
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https://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pia...no-dobbiamo-fare-meglio-fase-difensiva-597111
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I dont even want to translate his crap anymore, it's unbelievable, its like that he's coaching Livorno
"To get to fourth place we have to go step by step. We see glass half full. We have to do better defensive phase "
"In any case, at the beginning of the season we would have lost these matches, so let's see the glass half full and let's think about preparing the match against Fiorentina. "
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https://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-pia...no-dobbiamo-fare-meglio-fase-difensiva-597111
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I dont even want to translate his crap anymore, it's unbelievable, its like that he's coaching Livorno
Looking at the season as a whole it’s been a huge disappointment. Allegri should be doing a much better job and that is apparent as the season progresses. We’re at a stage of the season now where we should have the appearance of a football team with some built out patterns of play, we don’t have anything like this. Goals when they come are lucky and incredibly infrequent. We’re harder to beat than at the start of the season but we’re incredibly easy to stop from scoring.
Allegri doesn’t seem capable of building attacking patterns of play, that’s worrying because even pirlo could do that. Is it the players? To a degree, we have no creativity or skill in midfield, but when we are being out scored in the league by Verona… it’s a certainty that Verona don’t have a superior attack or midfield.. Allegri is lacking a game plan and it shows.
The reality is that he isn’t going to be fired, we gave him a huge contract for a reason. We absolutely have to invest this summer on attacking players with talent. We need a LB, CM x2, LW, AM & a player that can support Vlahovic.
Allegri doesn’t seem capable of building attacking patterns of play, that’s worrying because even pirlo could do that. Is it the players? To a degree, we have no creativity or skill in midfield, but when we are being out scored in the league by Verona… it’s a certainty that Verona don’t have a superior attack or midfield.. Allegri is lacking a game plan and it shows.
The reality is that he isn’t going to be fired, we gave him a huge contract for a reason. We absolutely have to invest this summer on attacking players with talent. We need a LB, CM x2, LW, AM & a player that can support Vlahovic.
I wouldn't describe him as a cattenaccio coach. In my mind that's a deep defensive line with well rehearsed rigid counter attacks.
Allegris style strikes me as fluid with a loose structure lots of freedom for players to utilize their decision making to make opportunities and improvise combinations.
It works well with tactically versatile experienced players. That's why it worked at Milan and with our former squad when khedira, marchisio Teves and the likes. We saw the first significant drop in quality when pjanic and matuidi became the main players in midfield rather than pirlo marchisio and Vidal.
Our players now are missing a default setup to fall back on and improvise from. The way out is not talented youngsters imo, it's actually having the likes of modric taking charge of the midfield and build up. I am assuming he'll never coach to a rigid system ofc
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They hadn't hit their stride yet. You could see the seeds of Pep and Klopps systems taking hold but it wasn't manifesting with consistent results yet.
Contes system is simpler and requires less technical players than Peps and less fitness than Klopp. So you'll see him getting a lift in results faster. We saw that at Juve Inter and chelsea and are seeing it take hold in Spurs too.
But at full force their systems are superior to his. Opposition teams struggle more against their systems than his because they're more creative and less predictable.
What he achieved at Chelsea is impressive but is also a by product of their teams not being quite at full force yet.
My bet is that even with an open budget he wouldn't win leagues against a full force City or Liverpool
Allegris style strikes me as fluid with a loose structure lots of freedom for players to utilize their decision making to make opportunities and improvise combinations.
It works well with tactically versatile experienced players. That's why it worked at Milan and with our former squad when khedira, marchisio Teves and the likes. We saw the first significant drop in quality when pjanic and matuidi became the main players in midfield rather than pirlo marchisio and Vidal.
Our players now are missing a default setup to fall back on and improvise from. The way out is not talented youngsters imo, it's actually having the likes of modric taking charge of the midfield and build up. I am assuming he'll never coach to a rigid system ofc
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They hadn't hit their stride yet. You could see the seeds of Pep and Klopps systems taking hold but it wasn't manifesting with consistent results yet.
Contes system is simpler and requires less technical players than Peps and less fitness than Klopp. So you'll see him getting a lift in results faster. We saw that at Juve Inter and chelsea and are seeing it take hold in Spurs too.
But at full force their systems are superior to his. Opposition teams struggle more against their systems than his because they're more creative and less predictable.
What he achieved at Chelsea is impressive but is also a by product of their teams not being quite at full force yet.
My bet is that even with an open budget he wouldn't win leagues against a full force City or Liverpool
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Diminishing Conte’s achievement with Chelsea? The 2016 premier was still stronger than serie a in terms of general competition.
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I’d echo this. Whilst his football is battery acid in the eyes level of misery, sacking him now would risk further turmoil. As I don’t trust the management to get a good coach or put a structure / strategy in place, getting a visionary coach would be pointless.
A Deschamps or Ten Hag would be likely to fight with Bene.
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I’d echo this. Whilst his football is battery acid in the eyes level of misery, sacking him now would risk further turmoil. As I don’t trust the management to get a good coach or put a structure / strategy in place, getting a visionary coach would be pointless.
A Deschamps or Ten Hag would be likely to fight with Bene.
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If we can’t figure out a gameplan then could we at least field Morata, Vlahovic and Kean and play direct long balls and play for knock downs.
At this stage no one would think any less of Allegri, it could be effective and the players may actually be given some direction on what the plan actually is.
At this stage no one would think any less of Allegri, it could be effective and the players may actually be given some direction on what the plan actually is.
I guess everyone's a dummy. 
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How it was supposed to work ? Just how? It's ridiculous even on the paper
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But anyway Allegri's fanboys have started to realize something, there is doubt in their words now
Five stages of grief of Allegri's fanboys
Denial - check
Anger - check
Finding a compromise - check
Depression - you are here now
Acceptance - loading....80%
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highest paid coach in the league
the most expensive team
a striker bought for 85 million euro
Fighting for 4th spot
ALLEGRI EFFECT
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