Funny how supposed Juve supporters will rubbish the achievements of those teams to suit their narrative.
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It's true though reaching 2 CL finals with 7-2 aggregate is huge achievement compared to group exit 
tell me a coach that would guarantee to win those finals. we had a very good shot on victory against barcelona (that penalty claim on pogba at 1-1 was legit), and the run to cardiff was impressive too. in his first 4 seasons, allegri's team surpassed the expectations and never fell to an inferior opponent. his current tenure is questionable obviously, but coaches rarely get better than allegri in those 4 years.
edit: ah, you replied to dingus. it makes sense now.
Conte has failed to get out of CL group stage 3 of his 5 attempts, once even managing to finish 4th behind Gladbach and Shaktar with a league winning side. 4 of those 5 seasons he was coaching a league champion or defending champion. He has 1 QF and 1 Rof16 exit on his resume.
Max is 9/9 getting out of group stage, including with those shitty ass later Milan teams. Has two CL finals, 3 QFs, and 4
Rof16 exits.
Anyone suggesting their CL resumes are on a similar level is an idiot. That simple.
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What a dumbass. Lol
We lost to Barca 3-1 after an injury time goal while we pressed for an equalizer. It was 1-1 70 minutes in, and Pogba should have won a penalty just before they scored on the counter. That was a highly competitive nail biter of a match right up to the injury time goal. If you think that was humiliation, you’re a moron.
Cardiff second half we got destroyed. Obviously that sucked a lot.
Liverpool lost 3-1 in the final just a couple years ago. Had 38% possession in that match. I guess that was also a crazy humiliation according to your absurd standards lol
And sure, Conte is responsible for all Allegri’s success. Especially the last 3 scudetti, all with 90 plus points, when he had 2-3 of the starting XI left from Conte. All thanks to Conte
Max is 9/9 getting out of group stage, including with those shitty ass later Milan teams. Has two CL finals, 3 QFs, and 4
Rof16 exits.
Anyone suggesting their CL resumes are on a similar level is an idiot. That simple.
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What a dumbass. Lol
We lost to Barca 3-1 after an injury time goal while we pressed for an equalizer. It was 1-1 70 minutes in, and Pogba should have won a penalty just before they scored on the counter. That was a highly competitive nail biter of a match right up to the injury time goal. If you think that was humiliation, you’re a moron.
Cardiff second half we got destroyed. Obviously that sucked a lot.
Liverpool lost 3-1 in the final just a couple years ago. Had 38% possession in that match. I guess that was also a crazy humiliation according to your absurd standards lol
And sure, Conte is responsible for all Allegri’s success. Especially the last 3 scudetti, all with 90 plus points, when he had 2-3 of the starting XI left from Conte. All thanks to Conte
And than you mentioned liverpool real hahahhaa, man salah got injured and subbed at the start and Karius made 2 great decisions... You are fu...genius!
And yet allegri won 4 times scudetto in a league where there were none european trophies for 12 years, in a league that none of the teams even get througt group stage, in a league where fucking imobile and even goran pandev score 20goals a season.
He is a joke of a coach, the best merge betwen idiots like agnelli, nedved and paratici. Sinhronisation...
Saved at least 3 100% chances? Lol sure thing, retard. Thanks for telling us all you didn’t even watch that match. Now we can all ignore yet another Tuz retard. Salah was injured for Pool… So was Chiellini, our best defender, who missed our entire final against Barca. But I guess it only counts for other teams when they lose top players. Lol
There are some dumbasses on this forum, but looks like you take the cake over the likes of Jager. What an idiotic and embarrassing post.
There are some dumbasses on this forum, but looks like you take the cake over the likes of Jager. What an idiotic and embarrassing post.
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What kind of squad upgrade would you expect for the coming Summer (stay realistic) VS what would Allegri need to actually challenge for the title and do something more in CL next season?
It seems to me the club is not able to buy more Dusans for huge cash and on the other hand Allegri is not interested in playing youngsters.
Is he the right man for the job? He always seemed to be more of a 'manager' type who deals with egos and focuses on heads of players. Perhaps we need more a 'coach' who instills some patterns and focuses more on training, building some cohesion (in both phases). Lesser players require patterns and training, stars require man-management, that's what I'm saying. Seems like Allegri is better at the latter while he squad needs the former.
It seems to me the club is not able to buy more Dusans for huge cash and on the other hand Allegri is not interested in playing youngsters.
Is he the right man for the job? He always seemed to be more of a 'manager' type who deals with egos and focuses on heads of players. Perhaps we need more a 'coach' who instills some patterns and focuses more on training, building some cohesion (in both phases). Lesser players require patterns and training, stars require man-management, that's what I'm saying. Seems like Allegri is better at the latter while he squad needs the former.
Well, ideally we need AT LEAST another player on Dusan’s level but for the midfield. It’s beyond me how half a decade later this club still hasn’t brought anyone who can create and link up attacks on a regular. Del Piero said it better, we have no one talented enough to be a risk taker, to go for passes that open up goal opportunities, who’s skilled enough to take 1 on 1s and keep the ball rolling quicker.
Otherwise we’ll be discussing this issue for another 5 years to come.
Otherwise we’ll be discussing this issue for another 5 years to come.
Rewatched? You are brave. Agree completely about how Unai schooled bad Allegri using the same tactics Max has been using for years.
I give the benefit of the doubt to Max and maybe our lack of quality kind of undermine his capabilities... 4th place, get a fresh start with new players next season and if the teams underperformed again, arrivederci
I give the benefit of the doubt to Max and maybe our lack of quality kind of undermine his capabilities... 4th place, get a fresh start with new players next season and if the teams underperformed again, arrivederci
If we look at facts under Allegri, when he's had a good and healthy squad he's smashed through excellent teams. His exits and losses apart from at Bayern and Madrid (dubious penalty) were when we had major players missing. The two final losses were against incredible teams, nobody beats those two teams at that time. The day we go out to Villarreal with a full-strength, that'll be the official end of Allegri.
Come on, that's a cop-out, we should score against and beat Villareal with only Morata, Vlahovic upfront and without Dybala and Chiesa. We should beat Porto without Dybala and Bentancur. We should beat Lyon without Dybala and Chiellini. We should beat Ajax without Dybala and Cuadrado. You'll always have players missing (and apparently we'll always have Dybala missing after looking at knockout matches where he wasnt available / was barely fit 
), some of whom will be starters, but that's why Juventus first team is 20+ players large.
), some of whom will be starters, but that's why Juventus first team is 20+ players large.
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