Bonucci? What about MDL covering the offside? He has been shit for a while now. We should be fielding Chiellini-Bonucci more often. It's one of the few things we have that can work.
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Regardless of the result we get this season, I really doubt we will start next season with Allegri. He has become an outdated old fart coach who insists on her stupid ideas.
he reminds me of the last days of Capello in Russia.
Allegri's departure in near future is inevitable, but this time the choice of next manager is a matter of life and death.
he reminds me of the last days of Capello in Russia.
Allegri's departure in near future is inevitable, but this time the choice of next manager is a matter of life and death.
You are trolling right? You are seeing progress? figured out what? his starting 11? his formation? Tell me. Who are those players and what formation does he play them in?
No one is asking him to compete at the highest level in year 1. We are asking him to compete at a broke Serie A level. We are not competing.
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It all starts from the top for sure.
Management's failures are:
1- Not committed to one strategy: They wanted Juve to play an offensive brand of football, sign superstars and go for the CL. So they hired Sarri and spent big on Ronaldo & De Ligt. Sarri didnt do well enough and deserved the sack. If they were committed to this strategy then the next coach should have been someone even better than Sarri. Hiring Pirlo was one of the strangest decisions I have ever seen. Top clubs dont go for an amateur coach on the cheap hoping he turns out to be gifted. Thats what small clubs do or top clubs that are broke and far from where they should be (like we did with Conte back in the day). Then after Pirlo failed, they abandoned the whole strategy. Fired Tici and hired Allegri again. They should stick to the strategy and not keep flip flopping back and forth. If we do stick with Allegri for a few seasons to build from scratch, it will be once again a very defensive style of play because thats what he knows. His football philosophy is to keep it tight at the back, and then rely on the individual talents of the few key players at the front to create something out of nothing. This is what he did at Milan and what we became in his last 2 years.
2- Super League: its obviously a good idea for the Italian and Spanish teams to try to keep up with the English teams financially. The execution of it by blindsiding all your players and coaches, is beyond incompetent. Your own players and coaches blasting your project to the public and looking clearly blindsided in press-conferences says it all.
3- The Ronaldo transfer: Not only did they U-turn on the strategy of having star players and playing an offensive brand of football, they then let go of our best player right at the end of the mercato and brought in a teenager as his replacement. Way to nuke the team's confidence right before the season starts. They created a toxic environment in the team and in the fanbase.
And who knows maybe we will learn they committed accounting fraud too just to be the final cherry on top
No one is asking him to compete at the highest level in year 1. We are asking him to compete at a broke Serie A level. We are not competing.
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It all starts from the top for sure.
Management's failures are:
1- Not committed to one strategy: They wanted Juve to play an offensive brand of football, sign superstars and go for the CL. So they hired Sarri and spent big on Ronaldo & De Ligt. Sarri didnt do well enough and deserved the sack. If they were committed to this strategy then the next coach should have been someone even better than Sarri. Hiring Pirlo was one of the strangest decisions I have ever seen. Top clubs dont go for an amateur coach on the cheap hoping he turns out to be gifted. Thats what small clubs do or top clubs that are broke and far from where they should be (like we did with Conte back in the day). Then after Pirlo failed, they abandoned the whole strategy. Fired Tici and hired Allegri again. They should stick to the strategy and not keep flip flopping back and forth. If we do stick with Allegri for a few seasons to build from scratch, it will be once again a very defensive style of play because thats what he knows. His football philosophy is to keep it tight at the back, and then rely on the individual talents of the few key players at the front to create something out of nothing. This is what he did at Milan and what we became in his last 2 years.
2- Super League: its obviously a good idea for the Italian and Spanish teams to try to keep up with the English teams financially. The execution of it by blindsiding all your players and coaches, is beyond incompetent. Your own players and coaches blasting your project to the public and looking clearly blindsided in press-conferences says it all.
3- The Ronaldo transfer: Not only did they U-turn on the strategy of having star players and playing an offensive brand of football, they then let go of our best player right at the end of the mercato and brought in a teenager as his replacement. Way to nuke the team's confidence right before the season starts. They created a toxic environment in the team and in the fanbase.
And who knows maybe we will learn they committed accounting fraud too just to be the final cherry on top
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Sorry. Typo. It’s supposed to say “I don’t think Allegri has figured out how to get the most out of this team.” And he has to take some responsibility for players poor form, as do those players. He has a lot of work to do. Tactically and motivationally,
We have been in a steep decline year after year for 3 years and haven’t close to adequately replaced quite a few players who aged out and were no longer Juve level. Even so, I expect to see this team have a pulse down the stretch run of this season. As I linked above, the favourite stat from those bashing Max in years past, xGoals, has us creating what should be the 4th most goals, and also has us in 4th place in xPoints. I expect Max to get some of the finishing and attacking issues sorted out and for this team to get up there to mirror that in reality. 4th place is needed for the season not to be a disaster. I don’t think this team is close to the best squad in the league on paper, too many inconsistent players who have never shown more than flash in the pan top form. But top 4 should certainly be achievable.
We have been in a steep decline year after year for 3 years and haven’t close to adequately replaced quite a few players who aged out and were no longer Juve level. Even so, I expect to see this team have a pulse down the stretch run of this season. As I linked above, the favourite stat from those bashing Max in years past, xGoals, has us creating what should be the 4th most goals, and also has us in 4th place in xPoints. I expect Max to get some of the finishing and attacking issues sorted out and for this team to get up there to mirror that in reality. 4th place is needed for the season not to be a disaster. I don’t think this team is close to the best squad in the league on paper, too many inconsistent players who have never shown more than flash in the pan top form. But top 4 should certainly be achievable.
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What does an Allegri team look like? What is his football philosophy or what are its key feature? To measure progress in playing style, we need an ideal to be the reference point. I have watched his teams for years now and I am still not sure.
I know what it is not but I don't know what it is. I know it's not:
1- High press
2- Fast build up play
3- Possession-based
4- Counter Attacking
5- High defence
6- Direct football?
Deep defence, slow tempo build up from the middle if we can hold possession, shots from the edge of the box? How would you describe an Allegri team?
I know what it is not but I don't know what it is. I know it's not:
1- High press
2- Fast build up play
3- Possession-based
4- Counter Attacking
5- High defence
6- Direct football?
Deep defence, slow tempo build up from the middle if we can hold possession, shots from the edge of the box? How would you describe an Allegri team?
Nah. It was any time we played teams around our level. It’s how we played against Madrid and Dortmund in 2015, Man City and Bayern in 2016, Barca and Monaco 2017, Spurs and Madrid in 2018. All we played very direct, with quick build-up and/or fast counters. Mostly with a lot of success.
Where I will agree with you is that it really is hard to discern an overall style for games against smaller clubs that sit back and defend with 11 behind the ball. We have always seemed to lack of cohesive and organized plan to break through in those matches, aside from 1 or 2 years where we really just dominated through a glut of attacking talent in top form. (15-16 and 17-18 domestic campaigns come to mind here).
Where I will agree with you is that it really is hard to discern an overall style for games against smaller clubs that sit back and defend with 11 behind the ball. We have always seemed to lack of cohesive and organized plan to break through in those matches, aside from 1 or 2 years where we really just dominated through a glut of attacking talent in top form. (15-16 and 17-18 domestic campaigns come to mind here).
So sad to read it, but this is totally true
Fast build up play, high defense, direct football.... lmao
We don't press except for some single players, who do it occasionally. Too many times i remember last year ronaldo pressing, while everyone else just didn't join - makes no sense. And it's not that our players are not physical enough, they're just lazy fucks. Even Rangnick said something about pressing, either you do it or you don't. Commit!
We can't counterattack. Only Chiesa is good at this. Everyone else is like...
But these are all things that can be fixed by a good coach. Even within a few weeks. I don't get that "let allegri rebuild, just give him some years", hell no!
Fast build up play, high defense, direct football.... lmao
We don't press except for some single players, who do it occasionally. Too many times i remember last year ronaldo pressing, while everyone else just didn't join - makes no sense. And it's not that our players are not physical enough, they're just lazy fucks. Even Rangnick said something about pressing, either you do it or you don't. Commit!
We can't counterattack. Only Chiesa is good at this. Everyone else is like...
But these are all things that can be fixed by a good coach. Even within a few weeks. I don't get that "let allegri rebuild, just give him some years", hell no!