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Robee

Senior Member
Jun 21, 2011
7,017
we had depth in defence i.e Demiral but good ol' Beannie thought it would make great business sense to let Atalanta have him on loan with option to buy and let Dragusin go out on a 2 year loan and leave ourselves with freaking rugani.
Who hasn't played a minute yet while Alex Sandro and Danilo can also be emergency options at CB. So why complain?
 

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juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
we had depth in defence i.e Demiral but good ol' Beannie thought it would make great business sense to let Atalanta have him on loan with option to buy and let Dragusin go out on a 2 year loan and leave ourselves with freaking rugani.
Also the Ronaldo situation if we knew along that he was going to leave why didnt we try to sign vlahovic
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
Thanks for reminding me - I had repressed those memories. That’s when Juventus lost their soul in my eyes, by the end of that season we were a disgrace.

It went downhill form when we removed Marotta and trusted a frivolous scout with the business side of the club
I still remember how much I was mocked when I was constantly repeating on how long the negative impact of Sarri will last.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
we had depth in defence i.e Demiral but good ol' Beannie thought it would make great business sense to let Atalanta have him on loan with option to buy and let Dragusin go out on a 2 year loan and leave ourselves with freaking rugani.
Demiral is a headless chicken. Didn’t we own Romero until your favourite director sold him for a loss to Atalanta?

Cherubini is left sweeping up the massive shit that Paratici did on this club

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I still remember how much I was mocked when I was constantly repeating on how long the negative impact of Sarri will last.
It was a disaster waiting to happen. Can’t think of any worse cultural fit than Sarri. Ripped the heart out of this club. Another Paratici masterstroke
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
But this probably looks like his toughest task the management has let him down with the transfer campaign i hope allegri works his magic and secures a fourth place finish
magic needed for the 4th place? lol. probably 70% of the coaches in Serie A and half of those in Serie B could get 4th place with Juve if given the chance, that's the absolute minimum expectation. I've no doubt that Allegri isn't thinking about 4th place.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
magic needed for the 4th place? lol. probably 70% of the coaches in Serie A and half of those in Serie B could get 4th place with Juve if given the chance, that's the absolute minimum expectation. I've no doubt that Allegri isn't thinking about 4th place.
Yes if the games were played on paper than the likes of kulusevksi ramsey and rabiot will do well
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
I see improvement when I watch us play, something I haven't seen all season under Pirlo and not under Sarri either.

Fuck the haters.
Interesting. Because I was getting mentions midseason every time we won under Pep Pirlo

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He is protecting his players, he knows how mentally fragile they are right now.

There is no quick fix here, we have to ride this out and build
He was telling the truth, his subs were terribad, just like in other games

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I can't see it happening, it's too much (surely?), but if we drop points against Spezia, will that be the all time record?
 
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duranfj

Senior Member
Jul 30, 2015
8,799
I see improvement when I watch us play, something I haven't seen all season under Pirlo and not under Sarri either.

Fuck the haters.
We are playing way better as a team even with our MF mediocre still underperforming as hell... and considering Woj cost us 6 points, I think we are in a good place right now

Injuries free, we are close to a positive run pretty soon IMO
 

MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,286
I still remember how much I was mocked when I was constantly repeating on how long the negative impact of Sarri will last.
Blaming Sarri for this year problems? I completely disagree. If that's the case than Pirlo should get a trophy for getting 4th place with the mess he inherited. Max has been away from the game for a couple years but in time he should be able to right the ship. Like mentioned enough talent for 4th place at worst. I dont think Max realized the weak mentality of this team coming back.

Not saying #10 needs it but maybe some of the players need to have some of those electrodes positioned on their heads. Might not want to see the results.

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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,327
I dont know what people are expecting when we brought Allegri that he has some magic wand to turn this around we have zero depth in attack midfield or defence
Depth isnt our problem as we have more depth than any other Serie A team. The problem is mental as quality wise we should wipe teams like Milan.
It will take time and I really hope we re-emerge under Allegri as otherwise there is only one guy who can change their mentality.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
The 2020-21 financial results of the top European clubs who have already released the data:
Barcelona: -€481m
Juventus: -€210m
Manchester United: -€104m
Borussia Dortmund: -€73m
Real Madrid: €1m
Paris Saint-Germain and Manchester City haven’t registered their numbers, as Real Madrid are the only team on the plus side after revealing the turnover for 2020-21.
(La Repubblica)
 

Strickland

Senior Member
May 17, 2019
5,859
Yes if the games were played on paper than the likes of kulusevksi ramsey and rabiot will do well
we also have de Ligt, Chiellini, Bonucci, Danilo, Cuadrado, Chiesa, Dybala, Morata, Kean and a bunch of other players you forgot to include here. Under Pirlo we dropped so many unnecessary points against minnows, he had such glaring weaknesses tactically, yet we managed to get the 4th even in those circumstances. Honestly, if I look at this list, I'd say 2/3 of them would finish TOP4 with Juve.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/trainer/pokalwettbewerb/IT1
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Juventus have dropped seven points from winning positions in the league this season, Burnley are the only side in Europe's top five divisions that have dropped more (8).

They have two points from their first four games.

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Top tier catenaccio, subs, and lingering mentality from Pep Pirlo

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we also have de Ligt, Chiellini, Bonucci, Danilo, Cuadrado, Chiesa, Dybala, Morata, Kean and a bunch of other players you forgot to include here. Under Pirlo we dropped so many unnecessary points against minnows, he had such glaring weaknesses tactically, yet we managed to get the 4th even in those circumstances. Honestly, if I look at this list, I'd say 2/3 of them would finish TOP4 with Juve.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/serie-a/trainer/pokalwettbewerb/IT1
Every single serial a coach would finish top 4 with us and prolly every single serial b coach too, at very least majority would.
 
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MrMonkey

Senior Member
Jul 15, 2017
4,286
I see improvement when I watch us play, something I haven't seen all season under Pirlo and not under Sarri either.

Fuck the haters.
First part, and i like reading your posts whether for or against but if that was the case we would have 9 points at least. I give you Nap was for me a given loss on paper.
Though if there was improvement getting 4th place shouldn't be an issue.

Second part, without question fuk the haters!
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
68,974
Demiral is a headless chicken. Didn’t we own Romero until your favourite director sold him for a loss to Atalanta?

Cherubini is left sweeping up the massive shit that Paratici did on this club

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It was a disaster waiting to happen. Can’t think of any worse cultural fit than Sarri. Ripped the heart out of this club. Another Paratici masterstroke
Just so you know Romero wasn't even that good till last season, and even if he was at the club this season off the back of last season's performance he still probably wouldn't even get into the starting 11 given this fetish our managers have with playing bonucci all the time, in fact now De Ligt is not even a guaranteed starter so what does that tell you?

Trust me paratici was sweeping far bigger shit than cherubini will ever have to do, in fact cherubini is too busy giving away decent assets like demiral away for charity, it's not like he's had to offload a squad load of players well in their 30s, injury prone and or utterly shite like Higuain, costa, matuidi, higuain and pjanic for example.

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Who hasn't played a minute yet while Alex Sandro and Danilo can also be emergency options at CB. So why complain?
YET

But believe me he WILL play at some point and a fair amount as well, you know Chiellini will get injured at some point, bonucci cant play every week, Danilo is far too important in other areas and alex sandro at CB is a freaking disaster tbh, so the complaint? why leave ourselves short when we had better or promising CBs than Rugani who couldn't even get a game at rennes or cagliari
 

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