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Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
i mean who in this squad can deliver CONSISTENTlLY good performances?

cuadrado and chiesa. that's it.

dybala can do it but he's not consistent. chiellini too injury prone to be counted on. maybe de ligt can step up

but then that leaves rest of team. so out of 11 players, only two maybe 3 can be counted on to always show up with winning in mind.

this is a big problem for allegri.
 

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Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
What Allegri needs to do fairly quickly is work out a formation he wants to drill into this team and get it trained into them like they are dummies.

Enough with these experiments, we need to learn a system and master it, the tinkering isn’t helping. All the other teams that have appointed new managers have started well, I really think the problem here is the squad has been so poorly built Allegri doesn’t quite understand what his best 11 or best system actually is
But he is an experienced coach, come on. By now he must be more aware of what we have.

He spend a whole season looking at Pirlo doing shit, of course he knows the players.

He needs to get on things asap.

For starters, to discard any plan with makeni and betanturd
 

Snobist

DareDevil
Apr 16, 2017
13,287
Roma, Inter, Lazio, Milan, Napoli, all won their first game games. Except Milan all have new managers. Yet we failed to beat Empoli and Udine. Some people i wont call their names (@Post Ironic ) still defend Allegri. 5 points dropped in first two games are on him.
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,695
Roma, Inter, Lazio, Milan, Napoli, all won their first game games. Except Milan all have new managers. Yet we failed to beat Empoli and Udine. Some people i wont call their names (@Post Ironic ) still defend Allegri. 5 points dropped in first two games are on him.
Juventus are low on morale. They've just sold their best player by far and have had an awful 2 years. Allegri has a proven record, so there is nothing to worry about.
 

.zero

★ ★ ★
Aug 8, 2006
82,895
I hope not. I hope we are leading the table by the end of the year otherwise i wont stop critizing him coming up with lame ass lineups.
he deserves all the criticism in the world. It was agreed during the darkest parts of last season that not even max could stretch points out of this squad. It’s only going to be more difficult for him without CR7 as an automatic insurance policy. Bottom line is that he can’t afford to fvck around with illogical line ups. Last week was problematic in itself. Saturday was hubris and overestimation.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
Mourinho take snipes at Allegri I think after he said "Impossible for Roma to not win this" after they trash Salernitana 4-0 away to Salerno
They are 0-0 at half time, after some spanking and wheeling by the mighty Mourinho , 4 goals in 2nd half

“Some might argue we didn’t create many chances in the first half, but we didn’t allow any at the other end either. We were in total control and did what we wanted with the ball, tiring Salernitana out, moving them around and using the passing channels we practiced yesterday in training.”

Didn't know what Allegri and our team does in dressing room in half time, maybe they all pray together ???

Previously I watch in beinsport the interview with the Salernitana coach, he is the guy that play from deep down to the top he said
He won Serie D and Serie B, he does not agree for backpass to goalkeeper. He jokes if the player do backpass to GK "Why did you attack your own goal ? Attack the other goal". He want to see as an accountant too and has his way of play, I think a stubborn attitude too like Sarri

And if the result or our form keep down, can you guess the name of our new coach if the board decided it is time over for Allegri ???
Ranieri the tinkerman :lol:

How we don't look out for the best DoF and foreign managers out there is staggering
 
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Juventinoo

Habibi .. Come to Dubai :)
Oct 20, 2004
3,660
Roma, Inter, Lazio, Milan, Napoli, all won their first game games. Except Milan all have new managers. Yet we failed to beat Empoli and Udine. Some people i wont call their names (@Post Ironic ) still defend Allegri. 5 points dropped in first two games are on him.
I dont complain about Allegri ... he will find out the best formation ... no doubts ....

am just saying that we are playing our branded football since very long ... how about Capello days :ratcafe: .... always we have problems with the basics ... other teams is not better , yet we have this .... this is happened with many coaches not with Allegri specifically ....except Lippi i guess and Conti

just am asking myself why ? Some low level club in the neighborhood playing with some excitement movement.... no need samba or tiktaka ... just the right passes to open up defenses ! Maybe am asking too much
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
I dont complain about Allegri ... he will find out the best formation ... no doubts ....

am just saying that we are playing our branded football since very long ... how about Capello days :ratcafe: .... always we have problems with the basics ... other teams is not better , yet we have this .... this is happened with many coaches not with Allegri specifically ....except Lippi i guess and Conti

just am asking myself why ? Some low level club in the neighborhood playing with some excitement movement.... no need samba or tiktaka ... just the right passes to open up defenses ! Maybe am asking too much
Could not agree more with you, but maybe it is the effect "grass is more green on the other side" ?
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Roma, Inter, Lazio, Milan, Napoli, all won their first game games. Except Milan all have new managers. Yet we failed to beat Empoli and Udine. Some people i wont call their names (@Post Ironic ) still defend Allegri. 5 points dropped in first two games are on him.
Defend him? There’s no need to. He made some stupid mistakes in the first two matches. If he’s still doing this at midseason than I’ll start to worry. Or worse doing it in April and May like that assclown Sarri.

We’re two games into the season. Only a total retard would be melting down and having a little tantrum about Allegri at this point. I won’t call their names ( @Snobist )
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,005
Wtf is happening to this club? We've literally become the home of pussyfags.

I've not seen a Juventus team with so many lethargic, slow, tactically inept weaklings in the club. Even those mediocre Italian bums of the past were way more valuable than the current pile of trash we have.

Who gives a fuck if Pjanić costs less? That fucker will take a spot in our midfield and that'll cost way more damage than some simple loan deal. Fuck this shit ffs.

My wishlist for summer 2022:

SELL:

Dybala
Rabiot
Sandro
Bentancur
Rugani
De Sciglio
Bernardeschi
Szczesny

Say NO to Pussyfags

#NoPussyFagTolerancePolicy
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
Wtf is happening to this club? We've literally become the home of pussyfags.

I've not seen a Juventus team with so many lethargic, slow, tactically inept weaklings in the club. Even those mediocre Italian bums of the past were way more valuable than the current pile of trash we have.

Who gives a fuck if Pjanić costs less? That fucker will take a spot in our midfield and that'll cost way more damage than some simple loan deal. Fuck this shit ffs.

My wishlist for summer 2022: SELL: Dybala,Rabiot,Sandro,Bentancur,Rugani,De Sciglio,Bernardeschi,Szczesny

Say NO to Pussyfags #NoPussyFagTolerancePolicy
We actually need to sell Dybala this year if he dont accept our first offer of new contract in late June (accept it or leave)
Do the same with CR7 (extend for paycut or leave), the club need to take action to confirm both
If both already confirmed leaving, we can planning the mercato with ease

Go for Vlahovic, Morata can be a backup. Finish the Locatelli deal early, and get another left winger
Just go with 4-3-3 from the get go. Vlahovic strong presence and movement will help us convert all of those Chiesa and Cuadrado crosses
With no formation headache, the pre season already focusing on this formation from the start
 

JCK

Biased
JCK
May 11, 2004
125,386
i mean who in this squad can deliver CONSISTENTlLY good performances?

cuadrado and chiesa. that's it.

dybala can do it but he's not consistent. chiellini too injury prone to be counted on. maybe de ligt can step up

but then that leaves rest of team. so out of 11 players, only two maybe 3 can be counted on to always show up with winning in mind.

this is a big problem for allegri.
Ronal.... No wait!
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,365
So do people like @Post Ironic and I.
The difference is, we always want what's best for Juve, not to be proven right at the sake of the club's results.
Every posters here don't control the result when they're right
It is the manager, players on the pitch that control the result. So when someone tell that is wrong, and it comes wrong , you should hear that people more

Parent's angry to their children and give the lecture not because they don't love their children. It is because they love them and does not want them to take the wrong path along the way. But if the wrong path already taken, they can only support them as their proof of love

Sometimes the best way is not to take the easy route with what we already know in the past and keep repeat the same mistake
The best way sometime is need to take a leap of faith, for something that we never try in the past

If I am Agnelli, I will get Zidane for 15m per year for 5 years projects
And put the capital increase to get him whatever player he want and sell half of our current players and call that a transitional year
Let's say numbers , 1 billion. That is the leap of faith. The question is will you love Agnelli more if he does this or if he does what he does right now ?
What move is what's best for Juve ?

If we take that into account that 1 billion will translate to 200 million per year of transfer fee for 5 years. Pretty normal right ?
AS Roma did it in a mini scale with Mourinho, and that is their project, as we are a bigger club we should go for a bigger scale
 
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Al Birdie

Junior Member
May 19, 2016
460
Juventus are low on morale. They've just sold their best player by far and have had an awful 2 years. Allegri has a proven record, so there is nothing to worry about.
Make that 3... Allegri's last season was awful, thats why he got canned. We'll see how he does this season, but firing him 3 years ago might have been the right call. Hiring morons to replace him wasnt
 

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