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Mr Chocolate

Rubba Band Business
Dec 23, 2012
6,702
To a certain degree it's necessary. But a lot of the movements in the market are more like trading stocks nowadays. If you ask the manager for every transfer, you're going to get a lot of requests for older, proven players who may be on the decline part of their career. You'll lose a lot of value that way.
True, but I'm not thinking specific players, just characteristic wise, e.g. Maybe Cancelo dosnt fit what Allegri wants at RB, he surely would have seen him play, i dont see Allegro requesting him then being suprised at what he offers
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
34,973
Vieri: "They always win but I would like to see Juve play a little better & I think we can say, with the players they have, they could play better. They have some great players but its not a good team to watch. I don't say they have to be like Barca but play a little better."

This is basically what majority of Juve fans are expecting except for Allegri nuthuggers
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
Vieri: "They always win but I would like to see Juve play a little better & I think we can say, with the players they have, they could play better. They have some great players but its not a good team to watch. I don't say they have to be like Barca but play a little better."

This is basically what majority of Juve fans are expecting except for Allegri nuthuggers
I'm sure everyone wants Juve to play better. Would be pretty stupid not to. The problem I have is that some people act like we've just been relegated to Serie B. We're not in some super desperate situation where we have no hope of improving.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
I'm sure everyone wants Juve to play better. Would be pretty stupid not to. The problem I have is that some people act like we've just been relegated to Serie B. We're not in some super desperate situation where we have no hope of improving.
:tup:

We're some minor improvements in both squad and tactics away from dominating like we did under Allegri from 2014-15 to 2016-17. But apparently we should all meltdown and act like we're going to be shit forever because Allegri got it wrong in CL the past 2 seasons. :baus:
 

GiocataGrande

Commendatore
May 26, 2016
4,073
:tup:

We're some minor improvements in both squad and tactics away from dominating like we did under Allegri from 2014-15 to 2016-17. But apparently we should all meltdown and act like we're going to be shit forever because Allegri got it wrong in CL the past 2 seasons. :baus:

Well, There is a reason to all this frustration: Our team is not playing good football and we lack capable players to fulfill the roles we wish for.

I agree: melting down and blaming Allegri is stupid, but at the same time its totally understandable given our performances this year.

The most important thing now is that Allegri and the rest of the team really works towards fixing these issues rather than hiding it under the carpet
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
Well, There is a reason to all this frustration: Our team is not playing good football and we lack capable players to fulfill the roles we wish for.

I agree: melting down and blaming Allegri is stupid, but at the same time its totally understandable given our performances this year.

The most important thing now is that Allegri and the rest of the team really works towards fixing these issues rather than hiding it under the carpet
I'm sure Allegri is well aware of any problems the team might have. However he might see completely different problems compared to us fans. The problem some have is that they really are 100% certain that they know more about our teams needs than Allegri does. I know I don't
 

GiocataGrande

Commendatore
May 26, 2016
4,073
I'm sure Allegri is well aware of any problems the team might have. However he might see completely different problems compared to us fans. The problem some have is that they really are 100% certain that they know more about our teams needs than Allegri does. I know I don't
Agreed. Actually, i still trust Allegri, I just hope he gets the resources needed to fix things. He is not a stupid man by any stretch and knows this team very well, so im sure he will do a good job.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Well, There is a reason to all this frustration: Our team is not playing good football and we lack capable players to fulfill the roles we wish for.

I agree: melting down and blaming Allegri is stupid, but at the same time its totally understandable given our performances this year.

The most important thing now is that Allegri and the rest of the team really works towards fixing these issues rather than hiding it under the carpet
:tup:

This year was also incredibly frustrating for us "allegri nuthuggers" (as xperd put it). We played poor football, with rare exceptions, and seemed to peak far too early, with Allegri overusing our starters early in the season, burning out the majority of them, and leading to us looking out-of-shape and out-of-form when the important part of the season arrived. Add to that, a huge amount of injuries, probably in part because of burning the players out.

He needs to get his fitness and training staff sorted out, and then get his periodization and peaking working like it was his first three years... and he needs to rotate better early in the season.
 

Niku

Senior Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,223
I'm sure everyone wants Juve to play better. Would be pretty stupid not to. The problem I have is that some people act like we've just been relegated to Serie B. We're not in some super desperate situation where we have no hope of improving.
Well to try to win the CL we should play better than we had. Even when we had a better squad and a more fluid game was not enough on the finals. We should aim to improve. These last years we haven't, we have regressed. We play like shit.
 
Jun 6, 2015
11,391
Well to try to win the CL we should play better than we had. Even when we had a better squad and a more fluid game was not enough on the finals. We should aim to improve. These last years we haven't, we have regressed. We play like shit.
Another meltdown merchant?

Of course we aim to improve. What do you think these people working at the club are aiming for? They aim to win every trophy available each year as does about 5-8 other teams. Winning isn't as easy as you guys seem to think.
 

IlCapitano

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2012
5,614
Goes in line with what that guy said on VS yesterday. Also:

"Paulo Dybala is on the market, both for the club and for Allergri."

"I would bet on the departure of Pjanic; in addition to the tactical questions, Juve would make a big capital gain."
 

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