Massimiliano Allegri (253 Viewers)

[Seven]

How can one win in the CL if your primary objective is to counter the playing style of your opponent instead of going for a win?

When you go on about this already at the press conference it is better to forfeit without stepping on the field. How do you expect the players to perform when they are instructed not to? How can they play to win when they are only asked to either keep possession or simply stand in Ajax's way?

The sad thing is that it is an end of an era. Allegri will not be sacked, he will quit and another mediocre Italian manager will be assigned. We are up to a few trophyless years to come but we will be back.

The best team Allegri produced was the 2014-2015 one. Really we should have won that CL.

We had Tevez and Morata (great in CL) in front and we had one of the best midfields I had ever seen. Prime Marchiso, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo,..

That team was gorgeous down to the fucking jerseys. Man, I loved that team.

And Allegri had a big part in creating it.

Btw that team would have won today. No doubt about it.

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[juve123]

Tottenham probably, City no way..
City can run and press 120mins not only 90, we were already two gears down when the 2nd half started
We also were fucked because we conceded that first goal so early after we scored, the team mentally needed a break and to slow things down, but that didn't work.

City and Ajax both have basically the same play style and always go for more goals - in that setup the more experienced coach and players win imo

That is the problem we start the game well than we are literally dominated by this Ajax side in the second half in both the first leg and second leg I don't know whether the coach gives instructions to slow down or it is due to an ageing squad

 

[Nedved96]

Southampton reject . Matuidi is a PSG reject then. I get your point on Allegri not making our team play well, but stop the hyperbole ffs. If you swapped coaches tonight still Ajax would've prevailed.

No they wouldn't have

Allegri could never, in his wildest dreams, make this Ajax side play the football they are playing. All that link-up play and team chemistry would be down the toilet if Allegri was their manager. He can't even get our players to play like that, and we have much better forwards than them.

Allegri is a good manager, for an underdog team. His defensive football doesn't suit this squad.

 

[Juventus 32]

Max Allegri on Sky Sport Italia
“We had done well in the first half, albeit a little too frenetic when we won back possession. Football is vicious, as you concede a fortuitous goal, the fear sets in, we got stretched out in the second half and should’ve had a different approach.

“Ajax fully deserved their result and qualification to the semi-finals.”

Injuries

“When you reach the quarter-finals, it’s better to have as many options as possible, because these ties are decided by details, substitutions and options off the bench.

“We had a lot of players struggling with fitness issues and the two legs were only a week apart. We had a young player like Kean in the second half, but there’s a knock-on effect, as it allowed De Jong more time on the ball and Ajax took control.

“There are many young players in the squad who need to play and gain experience. Some might’ve paid at having two such big matches in the space of a week.

“We did well in the first half, less well after the break. The first leg was more balanced than this evening, of course.”

Future?

“I told the President that I will stay. We'll sit down with the club and think about the future.”

 

[Zacheryah]

To which all I can say is this:

Countering playing style doesnt end with stopping their attack
It also means countering their ways of defending

For example, playing the seemingly "smashed" mandzukic against Athletico's insane defensive duo, allowed Ronaldo to only have 1 CB marking him. And twice he got ahead of that CB and scored.




Countering Ajax is looking how to position to disrupt their playmaking. And how to attack them where as soon as you got the ball. In the first leg, having Mandzukic and Ronaldo to play over the press to was a good idea. Having both wingers high all time is also countering them very hard. Just think how Costa and Kean absolutely tore past them in the first leg.

 

[Salvo]

No they wouldn't have

Allegri could never, in his wildest dreams, make this Ajax side play the football they are playing. All that link-up play and team chemistry would be down the toilet if Allegri was their manager. He can't even get our players to play like that, and we have much better forwards than them.

Allegri is a good manager, for an underdog team. His defensive football doesn't suit this squad.

It's the midfield that's the issue

 

[Mark]

so stay too?

LOL

 

[Juventinoo]

It seems he is staying ....check AA interview

 

[Oggy]

It was awful game, and while we don’t have WC midfield you guys sound like our best midfielder is Sturaro type of player. We have solid MF, but our whole team is looking worse than it really is and I think Allegri should be blamed.

How many games we managed to win thanks to lucky goal or pure individual brilliance?

Lazio destroyed us, yet we somehow won, Atalanta humiliated us, even Napoli was far better and dangereous with man less on the field.

We had far worse team and played much batter, maybe it’s not only the coach, maybe we need to shake players too, some of them are feeling to comfortable, but than again that’s probably we hardly rotate and give upcoming players a chane (Allegri said how Spinzzola used a lot of energy in Atletico hame and needs to recuperate like we played yesterday against them).

My point is, I love and appreciate Allegri, but I think his time is up, we need a change...

 

[Mark]

Allegri said we should have stayed back and be more compact in the 2nd but with Kean the play was more open.lol

 

[juve123]

The best team Allegri produced was the 2014-2015 one. Really we should have won that CL.

We had Tevez and Morata (great in CL) in front and we had one of the best midfields I had ever seen. Prime Marchiso, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo,..

That team was gorgeous down to the fucking jerseys. Man, I loved that team.

And Allegri had a big part in creating it.

Btw that team would have won today. No doubt about it.

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What a midfield that team had to no midfield in the current team

 

[JCK]

The best team Allegri produced was the 2014-2015 one. Really we should have won that CL.

We had Tevez and Morata (great in CL) in front and we had one of the best midfields I had ever seen. Prime Marchiso, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo,..

That team was gorgeous down to the fucking jerseys. Man, I loved that team.

And Allegri had a big part in creating it.

Btw that team would have won today. No doubt about it.

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I totally agree, this is why I said this is an end of an era. Ever since that season, our team's overall quality has been deteriorating.

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Allegri said we should have stayed back and be more compact in the 2nd but with Kean the play was more open.lol

Of course!

 

[Ronn]

No they wouldn't have

Allegri could never, in his wildest dreams, make this Ajax side play the football they are playing. All that link-up play and team chemistry would be down the toilet if Allegri was their manager. He can't even get our players to play like that, and we have much better forwards than them.

Allegri is a good manager, for an underdog team. His defensive football doesn't suit this squad.

You're right. If we swapped coaches Matuidi would've had 3 assists.

 

[zizinho]

No they wouldn't have

Allegri could never, in his wildest dreams, make this Ajax side play the football they are playing. All that link-up play and team chemistry would be down the toilet if Allegri was their manager. He can't even get our players to play like that, and we have much better forwards than them.

Allegri is a good manager, for an underdog team. His defensive football doesn't suit this squad.

so you think MdS, Can, Pjanic, Matuidi, Berna can play that quick? most of these players need 5 touches to make a decision with the ball. Pjanic could, but he doesent move around the pitch like that. in short, youre comparing apples and oranges again

 

[Salvo]

There's no other coach out there that we can get that is better, I strongly believe we'd play better under him if we had a functioning midfield

 

[Juventinoo]

The best team Allegri produced was the 2014-2015 one. Really we should have won that CL.

We had Tevez and Morata (great in CL) in front and we had one of the best midfields I had ever seen. Prime Marchiso, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo,..

That team was gorgeous down to the fucking jerseys. Man, I loved that team.

And Allegri had a big part in creating it.

Btw that team would have won today. No doubt about it.

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So this will put the blame on the type of players we have especially in the middle??

 

[Salvo]

Allegri said we should have stayed back and be more compact in the 2nd but with Kean the play was more open.lol

I don't agree with the second part but we definitely should've, we lacked any sort of compusre
We needed to make them run but we did the opposite

 

[Zacheryah]

The best team Allegri produced was the 2014-2015 one. Really we should have won that CL.

We had Tevez and Morata (great in CL) in front and we had one of the best midfields I had ever seen. Prime Marchiso, Pogba, Vidal, Pirlo,..

That team was gorgeous down to the fucking jerseys. Man, I loved that team.

And Allegri had a big part in creating it.

Btw that team would have won today. No doubt about it.

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I'm still mad at that foul made on Pogba that led to their second goal. We had the momentum. Within 5 minutes we'd have been in front and fucking put Barzagli on and bunker out the game.


I miss having actual men in the midfield and defenders that could build a bricade

 

[PhRoZeN]

Ajax player passes ball to another player who passes it to a third player, who passes it to thr first player. Matuidi and Can running like dogs. Rinse and repeat. I just can't understand why we didnt follow the players than the ball? Our pressing was atricious, positioning even worse man Allegri was outclassed. Ten haag is world class.

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[DAiDEViL]

You're right. If we swapped coaches Matuidi would've had 3 assists.

Sarri would make it possible.