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Lapa

FLY, EAGLES FLY
Sep 29, 2008
20,044
I don't understand why everyone is getting so angry. Mourinho, despite his faults, is one of the most successful managers of this generation. It's not like I was insulting Allegri by pointing out that his football philosophy is similar to Mourinho.
Not many on Tuz were happy when we got Max...people just have hard time remembering things that happened few years ago. So don't be so surprised if people don't remember what Mou or/and Pep have done in the past.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
So benching gonzalo in a handful of games magically brought back his workd class form is what you are saying? Thats why he buried all those chances against Roma
That’s why both he and dybala contributed by scoring/assisting on the first games they started from the bench with clear noticeable mentality changes.

Allegri’s experience > Kyle’s opinion


:tup:
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
I don't understand why everyone is getting so angry. Mourinho, despite his faults, is one of the most successful managers of this generation. It's not like I was insulting Allegri by pointing out that his football philosophy is similar to Mourinho.
Ok lets say maybe in terms of coaching they might have a similar philosophy but other than that all the rest is a bunch of bullcrap not worth a comparison, apparently from your point of view Allegri gets to buy the exact players he wants every summer without letting go of any starters having a balance sheet of minus -275milion pounds only in the past two summers nevermind the excessive wages while winning Seria A is same as winning Comunity Shield and UCL final is ofc same as an EL final just to name a few... :facepalm2: :tup:
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
When you go on Redcafe, you realize that a lot of the complaints Manure fans have about their team are identical to the complaints we have about Juve.

Juve and Manure have very similar strengths and weaknesses. We are hard to break down and organized defensively. When the onus is on us to attack, we are slow, static and predictable. We rely on individual brilliance rather than a plan going forward. We don't keep possession in big games, instead we press and try to hit our opponent on the counter. We are a disrupting team rather than a controlling one.

Allegri and Mourinho are cut from the same cloth, they have the same football philosophy and go into big games with the same mentality.
 

X Æ A-12

Senior Member
Contributor
Sep 4, 2006
87,955
That’s why both he and dybala contributed by scoring/assisting on the first games they started from the bench with clear noticeable mentality changes.

Allegri’s experience > Kyle’s opinion


:tup:
Funny cause earlier on he said higuain needed to play through his difficult periof i pointed out to you but i guess allgeri didnt know anything back then
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
I don't understand why everyone is getting so angry. Mourinho, despite his faults, is one of the most successful managers of this generation. It's not like I was insulting Allegri by pointing out that his football philosophy is similar to Mourinho.
Mourinho and Allegri are absolutely nothing a like. The only thing similar is that one of them also used to be a serial winner, even then they are very very different coaches. Allegri is more pragmatic and craftier and better.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
Not many on Tuz were happy when we got Max...people just have hard time remembering things that happened few years ago. So don't be so surprised if people don't remember what Mou or/and Pep have done in the past.
Who said Mou or Pep are not great coaches? its nothing about that, is all about the lame comparison blaming Allegri on the fact we dont play "atacking free-flowing football" as Pep for example when it clearly is a totally different league with totally different squads, nevermind the totally different mercatto's they have, same goes for Mourinho who is on a spending spree since arriving at ManUtd yet he underperforms trailing in the league while struggling having a star-sudden team, leaving all our struggles aside we still on track on every front despite Allegri not buying his favourite players every summer with our management taking it one step at a time, if you ask me it really is just not worth a comparison as the circumstances are totally different.
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,254
Who said Mou or Pep are not great coaches? its nothing about that, is all about the lame comparison blaming Allegri on the fact we dont play "atacking free-flowing football" as Pep for example when it clearly is a totally different league with totally different squads, nevermind the totally different mercatto's they have, same goes for Mourinho who is on a spending spree since arriving at ManUtd yet he underperforms trailing in the league while struggling having a star-sudden team, leaving all our struggles aside we still on track on every front despite Allegri not buying his favourite players every summer with our management taling it one step at a time, if you ask me it really is just not worth a comparison as the circumstances are totally different.
:agree:

Had Allegri retained his best players and had a budget similar to Mourinho's or Pep's he would have at least 3 CL titles by now.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Not many on Tuz were happy when we got Max...people just have hard time remembering things that happened few years ago. So don't be so surprised if people don't remember what Mou or/and Pep have done in the past.
Hilarious how all of the sudden, drawing a comparison between Allegri to Mourinho is seen as a great insult to Allegri.

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Ok lets say maybe in terms of coaching they might have a similar philosophy but other than that all the rest is a bunch of bullcrap not worth a comparison, apparently from your point of view Allegri gets to buy the exact players he wants every summer without letting go of any starters having a balance sheet of minus -275milion pounds only in the past two summers nevermind the excessive wages while winning Seria A is same as winning Comunity Shield and UCL final is ofc same as an EL final just to name a few... :facepalm2: :tup:
Yeah, Mourinho hasn't been great for Man United in 2017, so let's completely forget everything that guy has ever done in the past (even without a great team like at Porto).
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
Mourinho is all about anti-football bus parking tactics, Allegri has a defensive approach applied to all outfield players but instead of it being negative, it's positive, the team defends together and attack together.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
Hilarious how all of the sudden, drawing a comparison between Allegri to Mourinho is seen as a great insult to Allegri.

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Yeah, Mourinho hasn't been great for Man United in 2017, so let's completely forget everything that guy has ever done in the past (even without a great team like at Porto).
So you just gonna pretend you didnt see my other post where i answered that it is nothing about Mourinho being a great coach or not as much as it is about being wrong when comparing the two clubs and fans points of view as a whole.

Who said Mou or Pep are not great coaches? its nothing about that, is all about the lame comparison blaming Allegri on the fact we dont play "atacking free-flowing football" as Pep for example when it clearly is a totally different league with totally different squads, nevermind the totally different mercatto's they have, same goes for Mourinho who is on a spending spree since arriving at ManUtd yet he underperforms trailing in the league while struggling having a star-sudden team, leaving all our struggles aside we still on track on every front despite Allegri not buying his favourite players every summer with our management taking it one step at a time, if you ask me it really is just not worth a comparison as the circumstances are totally different.

# Your whole point of view on this matter is as crazy as that one time when you were comparing Barcelona's 2011 UCL final passing map to some random Juve game where our midfield was inexistent lol...
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
# Your whole point of view on this matter is as crazy as that one time when you were comparing Barcelona's 2011 UCL final passing map to some random Juve game where our midfield was inexistent lol...
Our midfield never existed in the 4231, I was advocating 433 several months before it happened.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,849
Never in a million years would Mourinho play Higuain and Dybala together. He once picked Oscar over De Bruyne as his #10 because Oscar ran more.

Oscar over De Bruyne.
 

Juliano13

Senior Member
May 6, 2012
5,017
And he hurts their feelings when he benched them :cry:
To sum up the last few pages here, Allegri should make note of 3 key points:

1. Never stop playing the worst performing players to help them regain form.
2. The more penalties a player misses, the more penalties he should take, in order not to lose confidence.
3. Scrap the tactics that won him 3 titles, 3 cups and led him to 2 CL finals and try to emulate successful teams like Dortmund or Liverpool. He should try to beat Barca and PSG at their own attacking game.
 

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