Massimiliano Allegri (204 Viewers)

[Zacheryah]

Bellerin and Lirola after Dani and Licht

However he just signed a new contract 3 months ago until 2023, must be stupid. Dont want anymore

He'll come when he's 32 and still didnt win shit.


He'll retire at 36 with 4 scudetto's, 3 coppa's, 3 supercoppa's, 1 CL, 1 ESC, 1FIFA world CUP

 

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[zizinho]

He'll come when he's 32 and still didnt win shit.


He'll retire at 36 with 4 scudetto's, 3 coppa's, 3 supercoppa's, 1 CL, 1 ESC, 1FIFA world CUP

If we got him for even one season, hed win more than in 10 years at Arsenal, easy. But this guy isnt very smart. I mean who signs a 6.5 years contract with freakin Arsenal?

 

[Hængebøffer]

How about you actually say what you mean instead of lulz namecalling ppl for reacting to vague statement? Novel idea I know.

You know what what I mean. My lulz is only waiting for you.

 

[Zacheryah]

If we got him for even one season, hed win more than in 10 years at Arsenal, easy. But this guy isnt very smart. I mean who signs a 6.5 years contract with freakin Arsenal?

 

[Hængebøffer]

Lol. I was too drunk yesterday, but shut up, @Osman. You know damn well what my post was about and he (once again) try to turn it into a "PL is very good -the best" discussion. Arsenal's team is a mess. The management is pleased as long as they make money. Allegri can't change jack shit.

 

[Osman]

You lecture others by saying nothing and expect them to read your mind?

A mess can be fixed by competent top coach with ambition and tactical know how. That's Allegris qualities. 90 procent of Arsenals problems are Wenger. If Arsenal get a competent ambitious coach the board won't be in the way.

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[Ocelot]

Nah, Arsenal need their whole character and attitude, a coach like Allegri isn't going to do that.

They need a Conte, Mourinho, Simeone type of manager.

 

[Hængebøffer]

You lecture others by saying nothing and expect them to read your mind?

A mess can be fixed by competent top coach with ambition and tactical know how. That's Allegris qualities. 90 procent of Arsenals problems are Wenger. If Arsenal get a competent ambitious coach the board won't be in the way.

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90? No way. Arsenal's team is pretty mediocre. If Wenger is the only one responsible for the players they buy, then I can agree with you. Arsenal remind me of United in the last couple of seasons with Ferguson.

And yes. I was a jerk.

 

[zizinho]

Nah, Arsenal need their whole character and attitude, a coach like Allegri isn't going to do that.

They need a Conte, Mourinho, Simeone type of manager.

they need good players, not a coach

 

[Ocelot]

they need good players, not a coach

They need both. My point was rather that Wenger ain't the only problem, though he's responsible for a lot of them.

 

[Kopanja]

they need good players, not a coach

imo they need both, and also they need a proper transfers manager. Arsenal might face the same downfall as manure after Fergie, simple because too many things are tied up on Arsen.

 

[zizinho]

They need both. My point was rather that Wenger ain't the only problem, though he's responsible for a lot of them.

imo they need both, and also they need a proper transfers manager. Arsenal might face the same downfall as manure after Fergie, simple because too many things are tied up on Arsen.

agree that they need both, however upgrading their squad is a bigger problem than finding a new coach imo. Wenger won the league and was competing with United when he had good players. he also manages to continuously finish in top 4 with a non top 4 squad. hes not a bad (league) coach, and they certainly can upgrade on him, but even he would do better than he did with more competitive squads. and yes, he shares responsibility for a lot of their shitty transfers last few years

 

[Osman]

Nah, Arsenal need their whole character and attitude, a coach like Allegri isn't going to do that.

They need a Conte, Mourinho, Simeone type of manager.

They need more of a motivator yes, but just playing good organised football and few key signings will take them far. A sense of belief they can do it with a coach who doesn't excuse failure will go long way. They actually have very good foundation player wise and have the habit of attacking technical football in their bones, what they missing is the tactical organization and driven leadership. Complete mentalist like the ones you mentionned would be best, but basically any top coach with ambitious ideas would be improvement for them. Especially since this bunch are so used to not pressuring their coach so he will have good working inviroment to rebuild.

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[Osman]

90? No way. Arsenal's team is pretty mediocre. If Wenger is the only one responsible for the players they buy, then I can agree with you. Arsenal remind me of United in the last couple of seasons with Ferguson.

And yes. I was a jerk.

Defenitely huge majority of the issue is Wenger. He is in complete control and refuses to sign players for many years, he has this bizzare belief in nurturing and overusing small material he has. The core players aren't mediocre at all, real good material but they need proper coaching and being supplemented with atleast 2 - 3 much needed signings Wenger deliberately ignored for long time. Top CB, top DM and most important of all top CF.

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[Osman]

agree that they need both, however upgrading their squad is a bigger problem than finding a new coach imo. Wenger won the league and was competing with United when he had good players. he also manages to continuously finish in top 4 with a non top 4 squad. hes not a bad (league) coach, and they certainly can upgrade on him, but even he would do better than he did with more competitive squads. and yes, he shares responsibility for a lot of their shitty transfers last few years

WENGER IS THE ONE WHO REFUSES TO SIGN PLAYERS.


How do people forget Wenger is completely in charge of Arsenal. I may have followed them almost like a fan throughout the years because I know so many of their fans, seen them weekly for many years and used to like Wenger alot in his first decade in charge, but he litterally makes loser pathetic excuses to not improve things every summer. Only makes decent squad signings when he faces alot of backlash for ignoring team needs. Litterally ignored teams glaring holes for long time besides being tactically clueless.

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[zizinho]

WENGER IS THE ONE WHO REFUSES TO SIGN PLAYERS.


How do people forget Wenger is completely in charge of Arsenal. I may have followed them almost like a fan throughout the years because I know so many of their fans, seen them weekly for many years and used to like Wenger alot in his first decade in charge, but he litterally makes loser pathetic excuses to not improve things every summer. Only makes decent squad signings when he faces alot of backlash for ignoring team needs. Litterally ignored teams glaring holes for long time besides being tactically clueless.

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Its not like he hasnt signed Ozil and Sanchez when he had the chance. Im surprised he didnt went for Mastour and Gabigol instead

 

[Osman]

Its not like he hasnt signed Ozil and Sanchez when he had the chance. Im surprised he didnt went for Mastour and Gabigol instead

Those are anomalies, and both market opportunities cuz they were flopping or unwanted. But every time there is a chance to rapidly improve the team, he has basically refused. He has no ambition and no will to compete for titles. That's dead obvious for many many years now.

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[zizinho]

Those are anomalies, and both market opportunities cuz they were flopping or unwanted. But every time there is a chance to rapidly improve the team, he has basically refused. He has no ambition and no will to compete for titles. That's dead obvious for many many years now.

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Have you considered that he aproached players but got refused, or that he simply couldnt afford some/got outbid by his EPL rivals? Sure he had questionable wtf transfers but I cant imagine him refusing to sign good players if he could, no ones that stupid

 

[Ocelot]

WENGER IS THE ONE WHO REFUSES TO SIGN PLAYERS.


How do people forget Wenger is completely in charge of Arsenal. I may have followed them almost like a fan throughout the years because I know so many of their fans, seen them weekly for many years and used to like Wenger alot in his first decade in charge, but he litterally makes loser pathetic excuses to not improve things every summer. Only makes decent squad signings when he faces alot of backlash for ignoring team needs. Litterally ignored teams glaring holes for long time besides being tactically clueless.

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I don't think we disagree here, I'd just frame it a bit differently. Namely, I'd say that Wenger is responsible for creating a lot of Arsenal's problems the past few year (average squad, pathetic mentality), but they won't go away by hiring a different manager.

It's 90% his fault maybe, but 90% of the problems won't disappear along with Wenger.

And I also don't think that Allegri would be the right coach to fix them, though he'd probably do an alright job.

 

[Osman]

You really don't know Wenger, nor have you seen him talk exactly about this many time. He is deluded, he always thinks he is right, said several summers my team is fine, we dont need additions, we play football the way it should be played, half heartedly assure that we will go for title. After every winter break he is disproven for the joke he is after everything falls apart after honey and moon first half, and squad shows the same limitations he ignored for years.


You talk about him trying. Seriously, there was a recent summer and whole year he didn't sign a single outfield player, not a single one, while team screamed for quality signings, and he kept harping on all that's wrong with modern football like is a messiah, making excuses for his main job that's supposed to be compete for titles.


He is in charge of very rich club, needs to get off the high horse, it's not the Arsenal that had to be frugal because of new stadium build and its loans. Has zero ambition or tactical clue anymore, so don't excuse him making the same mistakes every year with shit like "maybe he tried"...

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