Thank god, we have someone other then coaches that picks players and improves club. Coaches come and go as they please (as is evident with conte, ofcourse not everyone is a rotten as him but...) so for stability it's better that people responsible with for this are not coaches. Of course Marotta needs to work together with Allegri on this and I'm sure he does.
All in all this is certainly not an are we should be worried about, just look where it got us. We are one of the best managed clubs in europe, but if we would havel istened to a maniac like conte, we would probably be bankrupt by now and most likely with nothing to show excluding seria a. Because it's easy to throw tantrums like buy me 3 ronaldos and then I can compete. But when you're a terrible coach even then you wouldn't win anything, but at least you would get your ass covered from all angles then.
I think the first part of your post makes a very interesting point. The perishable nature of the coaching position perhaps makes it more stable to leave these choices to another entity, in this case the board. I tend to agree with that line of thinking that clubs use in Italy particularly. Of course goes without saying they must work in tandem with the coach to create a working identity and structure for the coach's ideas.
The second part of your post however is kind of a moot point though because I'm not citing Conte as an example to follow when in disagreement with the board. The truth to me is somewhere in the middle between Conte's hyper aggressive approach and Allegri's more accepting one.
How did you make all that conclusion of him being a yes man? The situation in Milan was out of control, and he didn't have much of a choice did he?
And how do you know Allegri is not a little more forthright with the management? The only difference between him and Conte which makes you think or believe he's ballsless is because Conte was bitching literally in media and press when Juve crushed out in Europe stating the fact that Juve needs a lot of money to do well in Europe, Allegri is smarter and knows where to take this to and knows what he's capable of.
I am sorry but your post doesn't make sense.
Look, we are talking about two coaches with their own independent strengths, with one perhaps being a more sustainable working nature than the other. But to me, from what I have seen of Allegri, in his career st Milan and to a lesser extent at Juve, is that he has a more accepting nature of the circumstances than should be the case at times.
The way I see it is not because I have a yardstick in Conte's behaviour at Juve, it is more specific to Allegris own graph. When he was at Milan, I distinctly remember him saying that Ibra and Thisgo will not be sold, however, in the same summer they were sold, and he was not given anything close to that talent in close season. Later, when he lost the Scudetto to Juve that season, he did claim it was impossible to win it without the likes of Ibra and Thiago. I don't debate that coaches normally don't have much choice, but in this case it was an extreme step, and it would've helped his cause to have spoken out in favour of a certain standard of replacements rather than accepting it after the Scudetto was lost. Speaking out after had already hurt the team IMO.
I kind of see more of that behaviour at Juve. To cite an example, Allegri was categoric about having asked the board for a number 10 in the summer. And if I remember, in the same interview he mentioned how Coman was part of his plans. End of that mercato, Vidal sold, Coman effectively sold, no AM, but Hernanes. Yes, he made the best of a bad situation, but him deploying Hernanes the way he did, showed me that he didn't consider Hernanes to be the AM he wanted. And frankly, I genuinely believe, choice or not, Beppe and the board would not have taken this liberty of selling Vidal and buying Hernanes if Conte was around. Again, it's not to praise or defend Conte, but I do feel it wouldn't hurt Allegri to put his foot down in the larger scheme of things.
Success can disguise some minor issues sometimes, and this isn't really a criticism, just an observation. I'm glad and grateful Allegri is our coach, not because we won the Scudetto, but moreso because I consider him to be a top tactician. That doesn't mean he's perfect. Nobody is. Yea, well except good 'ol Marcello.
Just because someone doesn't relay his concerns in public doesn't mean that he is a yes man.
Far from it. It means that he doesn't bring any unnecessary drama. Conte had as much control over player acquisitions here as Allegri does and did at Milan, which is none.
But no one ever heard Allegri complain over losing two all world players to PSG and getting nothing to replace them. Could you imagine if Conte was there?
And before anyone says that he would have never allowed it to happen.
Wrong. He would have been powerless to do anything about it.
You're right about not having a choice. But th isn't really about that. It's just about taking a stand. And when I say taking a stand, I don't mean coming to fisticuffs or throwing tantrums in the press. It could well be behind the scenes, but making it clear that a certain type of player needs to come, or making it clear a player cannot be sold. Honestly, do you believe if Conte was here, Beppe would've sold Vidal and replaced him with Hernanes? Honestly? Not that Conte's way is the right way, but the method to the madness is an ability to take a stand, that comes from conviction. The kind of conviction derived from success.
Allegri was successful in his first season here, and he had the right to take a stand for the good of the team. This again, doesn't mean only getting an Oscar because that's who he asked for. But it does mean not agreeing to a Hernanes. That's all. My reading of the situation is better described in my response above. I understand this will be an unpopular opinion, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not worth discussing.
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