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Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
not if we win our next few games and make the CL ko round
I dont talk in ifs, I been doing that for most of season quite patiently if this happens in terms of improvements etc. What we can MAYBE do later, but now should only focus on what we done so far, which is we played 10 games in the league and failed to win in 7 of them, that screams change by some huge margin.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
I dont talk in his, I been doing that for most of season quite patiently if this happens in terms of improvements etc. But so far we played 10 games in the league and failed to win in 7 of them, that screams change by some huge margin.
but 3 were away derbies to the top 3 sides in the table currently. in the other 4 we screwed up, agree. should have won all 4 or atleast 3 + 1 draw.

but to me this only means that we dont have anymore room for dropping points in small games so we must win 90% of them for the remaining of the season, starting today.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
He already said few days ago it's only Roma or Milan for him in Italy. Still I believe in Max. :xfinger:
i too believe. he can definitely fix this and make the team work again. Pogba is catching form, Marchisio and Khedira are back now regularly, once Licht and Pereyra return and as soon as he makes Morata-Dybala our regular starting duo this team will perform again. we can still win the league
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,657
In reality tho, I wonder had Tevez, Pirlo, and Vidal stayed would we still be as dominating? I mean Pirlo was already done, can hardly keep up even in mls. Vidal was aol for two third of last season and showed up when shit got serious. Tevez would also played less motivated, last year contract and just coming off a CL final and all.
At what point, we realize 3-3-4 record is just not good enough for whichever reason you believe is the main cause.
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
In reality tho, I wonder had Tevez, Pirlo, and Vidal stayed would we still be as dominating? I mean Pirlo was already done, can hardly keep up even in mls. Vidal was aol for two third of last season and showed up when $#@! got serious. Tevez would also played less motivated, last year contract and just coming off a CL final and all.
At what point, we realize 3-3-4 record is just not good enough for whichever reason you believe is the main cause.
great question. i think the only one out of the 3 who would make a difference this season is Tevez. there is also the motivational level of the team that is much lower than last year
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
great question. i think the only one out of the 3 who would make a difference this season is Tevez. there is also the motivational level of the team that is much lower than last year
Vidal would obviously make a difference. Even in his ability to play CAM for Allegri and keep his ideal 4-3-1-2 formation humming. He might not have been the most creative in the role, but he was damn good at providing his own hard-working, ball-winning, quick turning up the field version of the role.

It's sheer lunacy to think we wouldn't be better with Vidal so far this season.

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And Allegri should be fired on Monday if we lose this match. It shouldn't even be a debate.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,657
great question. i think the only one out of the 3 who would make a difference this season is Tevez. there is also the motivational level of the team that is much lower than last year
I think he had his mind set on donning the number 10 shirt one last time. Knowing him and the type of character he is, it would take something special to fire him up again to top the season he just had. most probably if he stayed we would of seen the man city Tevez, just seeing his contract through. He actually has respect for us not to, he even said they offered him a blank check.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
61,502
Vidal would obviously make a difference.
Twitter:

OptaPaolo 100 - Juventus are the team to have won the fewest tackles in this Serie A (100). Soft.



LOL AT ANYONE WHO THINKS VIDAL WOULDNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE :lol:



Also last game thought us how much we took a declining Pirlo for granted, zero reference point whatsoever when we had the ball. Our defenders didnt have anyone to hand it over to at all.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Twitter:

OptaPaolo 100 - Juventus are the team to have won the fewest tackles in this Serie A (100). Soft.



LOL AT ANYONE WHO THINKS VIDAL WOULDNT MAKE A DIFFERENCE :lol:



Also last game thought us how much we took a declining Pirlo for granted, zero reference point whatsoever when we had the ball. Our defenders didnt have anyone to hand it over to at all.
Like @Hist says, Marchisio is the only player in this current team that can play that ball-distributor role from midfield and without Pirlo we have no cover for him if he gets injured. We just look like utter rubbish without a player with that quality in that role.
 

B3N

Floro Fckin' Flores
May 16, 2010
6,657
Just to be clear, I'm giving a perspective on blaming everything of what's happening right now on losing said players. I definitely would of liked if Vidal stayed no doubt, but he wasn't the most available player last season.
 
Mar 10, 2009
8,695
Just to be clear, I'm giving a perspective on blaming everything of what's happening right now on losing said players. I definitely would of liked if Vidal stayed no doubt, but he wasn't the most available player last season.
vidal had a warriaor mentality, exactly what we're lacking
 

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