Massimiliano Allegri (224 Viewers)

[Post Ironic]

Sure the expectation of being at Juve is huge considering how we are expected to win every season but this team still far from performing at their maximum capability. We will advance in the cl, i thought alot of the reactions after that game were extremely ridiculous and uncalled for. Allegri is doing what he is supposed to do and sure the team needs work, but by sacking allegri we wont be doing anything good for this team. It will do a lot more harm than good at this point. I fully expect Agnelli, Marotta and the board to stay will Allegri for this season at a minimum.

Now im not here to sway anyone to a pro allegri side what I am here to say is simply the fact that Allegri is being perceived by some as the fault to all our problems. Look at contes first season for example, we were drawentus. Now look at our squad, failing to score goals, once the team gels we are fine. But until then i doubt people will be behind allegri.

You mean the season we went undefeated, led the table for most of the year, and won the scudetto after two straight 7th place finishes? C'mon bro. This is the worst start to a season in Juventus history, and Allegri's bizarre tactical choices have had a major part to play in this. So did Marotta's failings in the summer. They each deserve blame.

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Enough leave him to work and fucking follow the team because you love the club

This is just flawed logic. Criticizing something you love doesn't mean you love it any less. If you fell in love with a girl and she started becoming a fat lazy slob over the next few years, would you not tell her she needs to lose weight? Would you just ignore it, and let her eat herself into an early grave?

 

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[Hust]

Add to that, why find reasons to criticise Allegri before lookiing at what Marotta did to the squad?

Because there were games that we had no business dropping points EVEN with the squad Allegri had.


Injuries played a major part as well. There are a lot of parts that play a role in our situation. I gave you two.

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For those who are questioning Allegri and backlashing at those who are defending allegri, may i ask why?

Allegri sure has not deserved any of the shit he is getting, why turn against the coach who looked like he had everything going for him last season? Why not give him a full season and a season where not all the players are injured? Why turn on him after a poor run of results? We are not even mid season and yet some are making it seem like we wont bounce back. The coach is not completely to blame when half of the team is new and we have had all these injuries. Enough leave him to work and fucking follow the team because you love the club

no one is turning on him, Alex.

I can think of maybe one person who will do the "I told you so's" but no one has really turned on him. Being annoyed with his constant chopping of the attack isn't turning on him.

 

[B3N]

It's not a matter of results anymore. It's a fact that your best performers start to look average and big investments fail to have any impact. now compare that to once how most of the new comers and cheap transfers even the likes of Esti, Padoin, Peluso, Osvaldo surprisingly were a good fit to the team.

el shaaraway blah blah, yeah the future of milan is now playing in monaco.

 

[Dino_mk]

big investments fail to have any impact.

Especially when they are not playing.
By some members logic let's blame Marotta because our biggest investment isn't playing or is getting 10minutes at the end of the game.

 

[alexjuventino]

Whatever i gave my input, back to leaving the forum. People keep calling for his head and that supposedly is not turning on him, ok.

 

[B3N]

Especially when they are not playing.
By some members logic let's blame Marotta because our biggest investment isn't playing or is getting 10minutes at the end of the game.

Exactly, especially when they are not playing.

 

[Hydde]

zamparini can blast him all he wants...

if that makes allegri takes his head out of his azz...im all for it

go zamaparini

 

[JuveID]

For those who are questioning Allegri and backlashing at those who are defending allegri, may i ask why?

Allegri sure has not deserved any of the $#@! he is getting, why turn against the coach who looked like he had everything going for him last season? Why not give him a full season and a season where not all the players are injured? Why turn on him after a poor run of results? We are not even mid season and yet some are making it seem like we wont bounce back. The coach is not completely to blame when half of the team is new and we have had all these injuries. Enough leave him to work and $#@!ing follow the team because you love the club

Because fore some fans, waiting 1 year is too long.

 

[Xperd]

Because fore some fans, waiting 1 year is too long.

True

Even if it means potentially missing out on CL.

It's hardly underwhelming even for a team that's the premium team in the country and is coming back off 4 straight league title triumphs.

 

[JCK]

Because fore some fans, waiting 1 year is too long.

Do you mean one year without trophies and without European football?

 

[Hydde]

Yeh allegri, continue benching dybala.

U are too pro.

 

[Post Ironic]

Watch him bench Dybala for the next 2 matches now.

 

[B3N]

Watch him bench Dybala for the next 2 matches now.

He got his goal and assist quota to sit out the next few.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Watch him bench Dybala for the next 2 matches now.

I'd fire Allegri on the spot.

 

[icemaη]

Maxx knows best

 

[Boksic]

Keep playing Dybala and have him as a set penalty taker (with Morata backup)

 

[Rollie]

Definitely a good job today with rotation, tactics and subs.

Nice!

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Alright, tuz. Time to Discuss. @Osman @Zacheryah @Red @Post Ironic and everybody else.

What's our best option here? Dybala being a starter from now on is a no brainer. Pogba obviously isn't your typical Trequartista but a Pogba in good form seems to do well when he has another highly intelligent player next to him. Is it worth trying him behind the strikers since we seem to be so packed in the CM department?

What happens to Cuadrado now, how can we fit both Cuadrado and Dybala in the same formation? Should we persist with playing a 4-3-3 with Morata out of position cutting inside from the flanks just to fit Cuadrado, and/or maybe try it with Dybala as a false 9 but then we lose a more agressive attacking Pobga... Or should we stick to what is Allegri's comfort zone, the 4-3-1-2 with Pogba/Pereyra behind an attacking pair of Dybala and Morata/Mandzukic?

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[JuveID]

Do you mean one year without trophies and without European football?

Season is not over yet.
We will/should wait and see what happens.

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Alright, tuz. Time to Discuss. @Osman @Zacheryah @Red @Post Ironic and everybody else.

What's our best option here? Dybala being a starter from now on is a no brainer. Pogba obviously isn't your typical Trequartista but a Pogba in good form seems to do well when he has another highly intelligent player next to him. Is it worth trying him behind the strikers since we seem to be so packed in the CM department?

What happens to Cuadrado now, how can we fit both Cuadrado and Dybala in the same formation? Should we persist with playing a 4-3-3 with Morata out of position cutting inside from the flanks just to fit Cuadrado, and/or maybe try it with Dybala as a false 9 but then we lose a more agressive attacking Pobga... Or should we stick to what is Allegri's comfort zone, the 4-3-1-2 with Pogba/Pereyra behind an attacking pair of Dybala and Morata/Mandzukic?

What are your thoughts on this?

I think, today pogba has same posotion like vidal last year.
But with different impact.

 

[Hydde]

Alright, tuz. Time to Discuss. @Osman @Zacheryah @Red @Post Ironic and everybody else.

What's our best option here? Dybala being a starter from now on is a no brainer. Pogba obviously isn't your typical Trequartista but a Pogba in good form seems to do well when he has another highly intelligent player next to him. Is it worth trying him behind the strikers since we seem to be so packed in the CM department?

What happens to Cuadrado now, how can we fit both Cuadrado and Dybala in the same formation? Should we persist with playing a 4-3-3 with Morata out of position cutting inside from the flanks just to fit Cuadrado, and/or maybe try it with Dybala as a false 9 but then we lose a more agressive attacking Pobga... Or should we stick to what is Allegri's comfort zone, the 4-3-1-2 with Pogba/Pereyra behind an attacking pair of Dybala and Morata/Mandzukic?

What are your thoughts on this?

Today we looked promising and should work on this. If cuadrado cannot turn his output into goals or wins, is not worth the effort switching just for him. But iMO the best way to 433 would be sacrifice quad instead of morata and dybala.

Cuadradro on the left for him to be able to use his right foot, Moratas as a CF not buts of ifs, and Dybala coming from the right and cutting inwith his left foot ready to shoot (it would be criminal to force dybala on the left and waste his left foot).

Thats the only way I would fit those 3. Morata on the flanks is criminal taking in consideration the lack of goalscorers we have.


Anyways, it seems we looked more solid as 4312.

I would continue trying experimenting with morata and dybala playing in front of pogba as treq. I think it could work as those 3 are our most talented players(and effective) in attack.

The trick for the 4312 is dybala and pogba combining and setting the striker. Dybala is NOT a prima punta. He needs to roam like tevez did. Allegri should not use him as a CF and sacrificing morata in a 433 just to fit cuadrado.

My 2 cents.