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juve123

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Aug 10, 2017
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Mason Greenwood is a priority target for Juventus should they let Soulé or Chiesa go. Total agreement between the Bianconeri and the player.Juventus are ready to offer €30 million plus bonuses, while United ask for €50 million.

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BIG DADDY!!!

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Mar 12, 2004
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#24
I asked a United fan just there if the reason they haven't taken him back is specifically because of the rape or is it because he may have fallen out with the coach like Sancho and he said that United were planning on bringing him back but the ladies from the women's team threatened to leave the club based on principle.

Don't know how true that is though .
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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I asked a United fan just there if the reason they haven't taken him back is specifically because of the rape or is it because he may have fallen out with the coach like Sancho and he said that United were planning on bringing him back but the ladies from the women's team threatened to leave the club based on principle.

Don't know how true that is though .
Maybe if we bring him our ladies will leave.

Rabiot specifically.

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Everyone makes mistakes, and sometimes a second chance is all we need to make things right so I am sure Greenwood will grab it with both hands.
Just like he grabbed his girlfriends throat with both hands.
 

Tak!

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Jun 23, 2011
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#26
WHAT!? Why do we have to go after the things that smell worst?

I don't want him here. IF we for some reason "have to" have him here, I wouldn't offer a dime to take him in. Why on earth would we actually spend money on some unprofessional scumbag?

Stop defending him with "everyone can make a mistake". I've been annoyed, angry, upset, broken, and everything else that every other person has experienced. I still don't hurt others over it. Making a mistake of hitting someone says more about you. And yes, people can change, but why do we have to be the one to take the fall?

Yes, Fagioli was betting and it was wrong. He did not physically hurt anyone by it. There is a huge difference in degree. Not sure anyone has brought it up yet but someone will, so I'll say it a priori.

Again. We are willing to spend money on this turd? I thought it was all a question of a freebie. Now I am flabbergasted
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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#27
I asked a United fan just there if the reason they haven't taken him back is specifically because of the rape or is it because he may have fallen out with the coach like Sancho and he said that United were planning on bringing him back but the ladies from the women's team threatened to leave the club based on principle.

Don't know how true that is though .
It's true, also that fat bitch Leanne Sanderson ex Juve women a man utd fan was very outspoken as she is with most things about this topic.

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Fact of the matter is, the case was dropped and was never proven guilty. Right or wrong and with whatever evidence that was present in the case, the fact remains that by law he is not guilty of the accusations put against him.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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It's true, also that fat bitch Leanne Sanderson ex Juve women a man utd fan was very outspoken as she is with most things about this topic.

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Fact of the matter is, the case was dropped and was never proven guilty. Right or wrong and with whatever evidence that was present in the case, the fact remains that by law he is not guilty of the accusations put against him.
Anyone who has heard the audio knows what he is guilty of. We don't need a court to prove that.

The only reason he wasn't proven guilty 'in court' was because his girlfriend knew it would be more beneficial for her if she dropped the charges.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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#30
Anyone who has heard the audio knows what he is guilty of. We don't need a court to prove that.

The only reason he wasn't proven guilty 'in court' was because his girlfriend knew it would be more beneficial for her if she dropped the charges.
I get what you are saying but the fact remains he was never proven guilty because the charge was dropped. But in today's society and I'm not talking about this case specifically but generally speaking there have been plenty of cases (Johnny Depp being a prime example) where men in particular are accused of rape and unfortunately assumed guilty before any judgement has been carried out.
 

venus_isle

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Sep 23, 2010
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#31
Talking about rape allegations

Kevin Spacey cleared all of them, hes broke now with millions of dollars debt because of all the legal battle and coming back to acting

https://x.com/piersmorgan/status/1800603869363249185?s=19

"Oct. 29, 2017: Actor Anthony Rapp alleges Spacey made a ‘s**ual advance’ toward him when he was 14.

Nov. 8, 2017: Several more allegations surface against Spacey.

Dec. 24, 2018: Spacey faces felony charge over alleged s**ual assault.

July 17, 2019: Prosecutors drop charges against Spacey in Massachusetts s**ual assault case.

September 2019: S**ual assault accuser dies, ending possibility of a trial.

May 26, 2022: Spacey charged with multiple counts of s**ual assault in the U.K.

October 20, 2022: Spacey found not liable for battery against Anthony Rapp.

Nov. 16, 2022: Seven additional charges brought against Spacey in the U.K.

July 26, 2023: Spacey cleared of all s**ual assault charges in U.K. trial.

March 2024: Spacey returns to acting."


The biggest question still remains: why the f none of epstein clients list being charged yet
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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#32
If we sign this guy it signals a huge change in course for the club.

AA recognised that we couldn't financially compete with English teams, the Spanish two, PSG or Bayern. Largely because of limited worldwide TV exposure which in turn limited sponsorship offers.

Because the rest of Serie A was modernising at a snails pace he decided to create the Jj project, the idea behind which was that Juventus could only get ahead through image and merchandising. So we decided to market our brand beyond football fans because that was the only way we could hope to try and compete with the reach of the aforementioned.

Signing Ronaldo was absolutely part of this, and the reemergence of his rape hush money put a big stain on it and in many ways was a laughably clear bad omen for the whole idea. We continued to focus on this rather than football and too late we remembered that no, Juve is a football team first and a brand second. Nobody is going to buy Juve gear just because it looks good. Football teams are far too partisan.

If we sign this cunt it means we have fully abandoned the idea of nurturing a positive image to the end of selling merch outside of football fans and outside of Italy. You can't overstate how bad a PR move this signing would be. People who know football know about him. People who don't know football know him.

The Jj project was a decent idea terribly executed and I want us to go back to focusing on the pitch, but this isn't how I want that switch back to be signalled.

This guy is bad news. Do not sign under any circumstances
Finally, someone with vision.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
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#33
Last season, greenwood started 8 games on the left wing. In those games, he scored 3 goals and had 3 assists. Motta values versatile players that can fill different roles. Haven’t seen Soule play on the left, and I’ve watched the majority of his games. Add in the money they’d make off his sale, it at least makes sense from a pure football point.
 

Catenaccio

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Jul 15, 2002
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#34
Look. At the end of the day, he is a great footballer at an affordable price that fits Motta's system like a glove. Its not up to us to presume guilt on his part. We are a business first and foremost - a business of football. So long as he is innocent, he can play with us so long as he doesn't disrupt the dressing room and behaves and gives 100% on the pitch.
 

DanielSz

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Sep 6, 2014
14,343
#36
Lol

Nothing is ever "just" a business. The world is not so simplistic, and when things are treated as such then they don't work out.
the only person who really matters in greenwoods situation is the woman he allegedly abused. And the only fact we know is that she is still with him and went on to have a child with him. I’m ok with not playing god/moral superior.
 

Espectro

The Grimreaper
Jul 12, 2002
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#38
The guy beats and rapes his girlfriend… and some people say “Everybody makes a mistake, give him a second chance!”

That’s a new low even for Juventuz…
 
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