Mario Mandžukić (5 Viewers)


Mario, how many you score next year brat

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Hydde

Duke NUKEM
Mar 6, 2003
35,348
Can we question the man who puts him game in game out in the 11 whats the plan at least?

Mandz needs to hit the dark cold bench. No 2 ways about it and theres not enough grinta arguments that will convince me anymore

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well, he is quite a nuisance whom just extended his contract with a big pay rise.
These renewal makes no sense tbh

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As expected. He is finished in the top level.
He might be a useful bench player and nothing more.
Players like Dybala and Costa hit the bench with one bad game but this guy has a free ticket for each game.
Totally finished.
Allegri must be questioned about this decition to use him as spearhead in all games possible even with this trash form,
 
Jan 17, 2011
14,189

We should be replacing him anyway. Can't be a starter for much longer due to his age.
 

juve103423

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2010
948
What utter useless player. Even Amauri and Iaquinta had more output than this skinny dude. He deserves as much criticism as Bonucci, Sandro and Costa have received, and so does his clueless defenders in here.
 

petersmit

Senior Member
Mar 14, 2006
5,517
Only had 8 successful passes in the entire match.. god knows why he is still on the pitch every fucking match.. dybala, Kean and Douglas Costa deserve more playing time than him.
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
1,928
LMAO i just realized that all this time we had Kean on the bench - how could Allegri not use him? thats criminal.
Mandzu was totally useless all game, no point in playing him in current form.
 

salman

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
14,494
It isn’t like Mario is the one standing in the way of a start for Keane. The two are hardly similar players. Ronaldo plays much better off Mario than he would if someone like Kean was starting alongside him.

Yes he could do with some time on the bench to recharge his batteries more than anything else, but to suggest that he isn’t good enough for top tier football is laughable.

Not to say that his form hasn’t dipped over the course of the season, but it certainly isn’t as bad as it is made out to be.

The man is an absolute tank and doesn’t get the credit he deserves. Story of his career really.





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Arcticdaly

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2018
508
It isn’t like Mario is the one standing in the way of a start for Keane. The two are hardly similar players. Ronaldo plays much better off Mario than he would if someone like Kean was starting alongside him.

Yes he could do with some time on the bench to recharge his batteries more than anything else, but to suggest that he isn’t good enough for top tier football is laughable.

Not to say that his form hasn’t dipped over the course of the season, but it certainly isn’t as bad as it is made out to be.

The man is an absolute tank and doesn’t get the credit he deserves. Story of his career really.





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Sorry but how do you know this for fact when kean and ronaldo have not played one game together ?? This might have been true early on in the season but for the last 4 months mario has not helped ronaldo one bit hes just a extra body to take some players of ronaldo which kean could do and maybe actually help him more.
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
1,928
you just cant defend Mandzukic on current form. Im of course not saying he is garbage, has to leave etc., but in current form Kean has to play instead of him. Mario had 22 touches and 47 % passing succes rate, thats embarassing. Thats a Khedira level right here. You can say he won many aerial duels, but did it bring anything positive? For me in this game he did nothing, as much as like him, he cant start atm.
 
Sep 13, 2015
312
Max primarily uses him to hassle central defenders, open up spaces for Ronaldo and track back. These moves can't be conveyed into statistics, thus he looks ineffective.

Last time I checked I think he has almost 10 goals and assists in all competitions which is not bad for a support striker.

Personally, I think this tactic is kind of old fashioned cause it makes us look like we play with 10 players on the field. Especially we can't hurt teams with counter attacks cause Mario seems a bit sluggish.

I would prefer a more technical option to support Ronaldo.
 
Sep 28, 2017
29
Mario is clearly off form and looks tired. But I thought it was VERY evident yesterday that Ronaldo became much less effective once Mario got subbed. Ronaldo is not comfortable with regularly receiving the ball with his back against the defender.

When on, Mario does that for him and sets him up on the wing while he draws a defender on himself. Kean's hold up play isn't on Mario's level (yet). He's good at attacking space. Would be interesting to see how he and Ronaldo would link up, but do not take Mario's qualities for granted.
 

juve103423

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2010
948
Mario is clearly off form and looks tired. But I thought it was VERY evident yesterday that Ronaldo became much less effective once Mario got subbed. Ronaldo is not comfortable with regularly receiving the ball with his back against the defender.

When on, Mario does that for him and sets him up on the wing while he draws a defender on himself. Kean's hold up play isn't on Mario's level (yet). He's good at attacking space. Would be interesting to see how he and Ronaldo would link up, but do not take Mario's qualities for granted.
My take on this fellas season, I cant keep it in:

There are so many excuses for Mario. We have been the whole way around now. So many myths about how he actually contributes to the team, and all of them debunked one by one. First it was how many goals he can score and that he definitely didnt get lucky with a lot of very easy tap-ins in the start of the season. Then it was how much he is running each game, which was also proven completely wrong, as he runs second or third least after Szczesny and Bonucci. Then it was about him having a great season but just a dip of form, being tired. Now the last straw that people seem to cling onto, is that Ronaldo cant play without him. That Mario somehow is so deadly or intelligent that he gives Ronaldo amazing space and room to excel, like he never did before. Even Dybala has surpassed him on goals scored this season. Dybala who is one of our players who actually runs the most during a game and is both in midfield and attack. Dybala isnt so fortunate to be called a warrior though (Im not trying to say Dybala had a good season).

I just dont know what more people expect from Mandzukic, what you think he can do? He is not built for running, he is very heavy in his movement. He doesnt have acceleration and never dribbles. He has 1 shot per game and rarely outside the small area. He isnt very strong technically, got an okay touch and eye for flick-ons, but besides that, very awkward. He isnt as physically strong and 'fearsome' as some seem to think, he rarely wins a dual against a CB. He doesnt shake them off like a 'tank' as some said.
For a defender, he is piece of cake to deal with. No-way he is occupying 2 or 3 defenders.

His heroroic performance last 10 min against Milan? He should have gotten a red card for kicking a player laying down in our PK area and nearly cost us 1-2 penalties. We got very lucky there. I dont know if it is something to celebrate. I prefer that he stays in his position (the opponents box) than wandering around creating chaos. When Mandzukic is in our PK area, he will bring with him a big fucking CB there too to cause havoc. Not sure I want that as a defensive strategy.

I think it is time Allegri gives up on his favorite and think of the team instead of his friend. We need 11 good players on the field to beat Ajax, City/Liverpool/Barca.
 
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dolph

Senior Member
Mar 30, 2006
2,110
My take on this fellas season, I cant keep it in:

There are so many excuses for Mario. We have been the whole way around now. So many myths about how he actually contributes to the team, and all of them debunked one by one. First it was how many goals he can score and that he definitely didnt get lucky with a lot of very easy tap-ins in the start of the season. Then it was how much he is running each game, which was also proven completely wrong, as he runs second or third least after Szczesny and Bonucci. Then it was about him having a great season but just a dip of form, being tired. Now the last straw that people seem to cling onto, is that Ronaldo cant play without him. That Mario somehow is so deadly or intelligent that he gives Ronaldo amazing space and room to excel, like he never did before. Even Dybala has surpassed him on goals scored this season. Dybala who is one of our players who actually runs the most during a game and is both in midfield and attack. Dybala isnt so fortunate to be called a warrior though (Im not trying to say Dybala had a good season).

I just dont know what more people expect from Mandzukic, what you think he can do? He is not built for running, he is very heavy in his movement. He doesnt have acceleration and never dribbles. He has 1 shot per game and rarely outside the small area. He isnt very strong technically, got an okay touch and eye for flick-ons, but besides that, very awkward. He isnt as physically strong and 'fearsome' as some seem to think, he rarely wins a dual against a CB. He doesnt shake them off like a 'tank' as some said.
For a defender, he is piece of cake to deal with. No-way he is occupying 2 or 3 defenders.

His heroroic performance last 10 min against Milan? He should have gotten a red card for kicking a player laying down in our PK area and nearly cost us 1-2 penalties. We got very lucky there. I dont know if it is something to celebrate. I prefer that he stays in his position (the opponents box) than wandering around creating chaos. When Mandzukic is in our PK area, he will bring with him a big fucking CB there too to cause havoc. Not sure I want that as a defensive strategy.

I think it is time Allegri gives up on his favorite and think of the team instead of his friend. We need 11 good players on the field to beat Ajax, City/Liverpool/Barca.
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Welcome back. And to think we just gave this oak a payrise and a contract extension. 12 games without a goal and people are still defending him, and giving him credit for standing around on the field.
 
Sep 28, 2017
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My take on this fellas season, I cant keep it in:

There are so many excuses for Mario. We have been the whole way around now. So many myths about how he actually contributes to the team, and all of them debunked one by one. First it was how many goals he can score and that he definitely didnt get lucky with a lot of very easy tap-ins in the start of the season. Then it was how much he is running each game, which was also proven completely wrong, as he runs second or third least after Szczesny and Bonucci. Then it was about him having a great season but just a dip of form, being tired. Now the last straw that people seem to cling onto, is that Ronaldo cant play without him. That Mario somehow is so deadly or intelligent that he gives Ronaldo amazing space and room to excel, like he never did before. Even Dybala has surpassed him on goals scored this season. Dybala who is one of our players who actually runs the most during a game and is both in midfield and attack. Dybala isnt so fortunate to be called a warrior though (Im not trying to say Dybala had a good season).
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I started my last post by stating that he is clearly off form and looks tired, so I don't think there are made any excuses for him.

You mention how many goals he scored and "easy tap-ins". The man scored against Napoli, Milan, Inter, Roma, Lazio to basically wrap up the scudetto. Those headers against Roma, Milan, Napoli and Inter were far from tap-ins, he absolutely destroyed one fullback after the other.

People mention his passing completion %. In Serie A, his percentage is 71 %.
For a number 9, the percentage will always be lower as they play with a defender pressuring them very often. You know what the passing % of Belotti and the beloved Quagliarella are? 64 and 68. Dzeko is at 72, Piatek at 73, Icardi is at 70 % etc etc.

And you guys like to use whoscored a lot:
Whoscored have Mario Mandzukic as the fourth best player in Serie A this season based on their player ratings. How come?
 

Akshen

Senior Member
Aug 27, 2010
1,928
People defending him right now say we cant compare his goal ratio to other strikers because he is playing different role. Yet there is no problem in comparing his passing stats to other CFs. For me supporting striker is someone who will not only create space for others but also get the ball, hold it and then pass it to the other attacker. With 22 touches and passing at 47 % you are definitely not doing your job.

Im not here to bash Mario, but its normal that player who is completely out of form should hit the bench - this happened to Dybala.
 
Jan 22, 2016
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I started my last post by stating that he is clearly off form and looks tired, so I don't think there are made any excuses for him.

You mention how many goals he scored and "easy tap-ins". The man scored against Napoli, Milan, Inter, Roma, Lazio to basically wrap up the scudetto. Those headers against Roma, Milan, Napoli and Inter were far from tap-ins, he absolutely destroyed one fullback after the other.

People mention his passing completion %. In Serie A, his percentage is 71 %.
For a number 9, the percentage will always be lower as they play with a defender pressuring them very often. You know what the passing % of Belotti and the beloved Quagliarella are? 64 and 68. Dzeko is at 72, Piatek at 73, Icardi is at 70 % etc etc.

And you guys like to use whoscored a lot:
Whoscored have Mario Mandzukic as the fourth best player in Serie A this season based on their player ratings. How come?
Dude instead of bringing useless stats, watch our games. Mandzukic hasn't done shit for almost 5 months and there are still people who find a way to defend him. He should have hit the bench 3 months ago but instead he is playing ahead of our most inform player. That's infuriating at least.

We were in the same situation with Khedira until he got injured. Allegri is making big mistake and doesn't learn from it
 

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