Mafia: Trouble in DheeWorld (28 Viewers)

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
Alen, I can't fathom why he wouldn't have been whacked yet.
It's pretty easy though. I was twice close to being lynched. The first time it was me vs ALC and the second time me vs Fred. Both times I was against a G.

Lets see who voted for me in both cases ;)

As for the whacking... The first two days Osman and the D were preferred. On day 4 and yesterday I was a lynching target so they didn't want to take the risk to whack someone who might get lynched if a shift of votes happened in the last minutes. On day 5 I was jailed. Only one day remains hard to explain. I don't know why didn't they whack me when Fred and Preet were the lynching candidates and they lynched Soren. I'm guessing they wanted to recruit me on that day. Fred was close to being lynched so he 100% recruited that day. He wanted to recruit me and that's why he didn't whack me.
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
It's pretty easy though. I was twice close to being lynched. The first time it was me vs ALC and the second time me vs Fred. Both times I was against a G.

Lets see who voted for me in both cases ;)

As for the whacking... The first two days Osman and the D were preferred. On day 4 and yesterday I was a lynching target so they didn't want to take the risk to whack someone who might get lynched if a shift of votes happened in the last minutes. On day 5 I was jailed. Only one day remains hard to explain. I don't know why didn't they whack me when Fred and Preet were the lynching candidates and they lynched Soren. I'm guessing they wanted to recruit me on that day. Fred was close to being lynched so he 100% recruited that day. He wanted to recruit me and that's why he didn't whack me.
Then Adonis gets my vote today and if you aren't whacked today i'll just vote for you until the end.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
But last night Völler voted Alen, despite Fred being an obvious G.
What made Fred the obvious G of the two?

I'd say X, Voller, Alen(?)/me/you. :agree:
So I'm a more obvious recruit target than Alen?

You're only 2 days late.

I had this on Friday already when I told you that neither of you and me was recruited.
What happened to this:

You'd look bad in it if I make it.

Only that "my last words" post is saving you. If that was an act, then it was a work of genius. I just don't see you as such a genius :p
Alen
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
One thing sure is that Fred recruited on the night when he and Preet were the lynching candidates.

At that point they didn't know if I'm really the jailer or not. I could be the jailer who acts that he only knows the jailer. I'm a perfect recruiting candidate.

But there was another name on that three name list. X and I were the two sure bets.

The most important question for me is who was the 2nd candidate. I know what the other Cs don't know. I know that I wasn't recruited. That's why I personally want to find the 3rd name on the recruitment list. I'm thinking that Fred thought I'm the jailer and he wanted to get the lawyer too on that list. He couldn't possibly know that Fint is the lawyer and I doubt Fint showed special role vibes. I didn't particularly follow Fint, but I didn't sense the vibes I sensed in X (I even told X here to stop showing special role vibes. I told him before he was jailed on day 2.).
So, I'd exclude Fint. I also don't think that Fred wanted to take a risk with members like Janna, Ford, Zach, ILFJ, Cuti and Fresh. It was a big risk to assume they are the lawyer and then recruit them just to find out that he recruited a normal civilian named Bezzy.
I'd exclude Adonis too, even if he can't be excluded completely. He was a proven C and it's logical that Fred would try to recruit one of me and Adonis. I just personally doubt he did. I think he wanted the jailer or the lawyer, not a normal C, especially since Adonis kept saying that even if he's recruited he'll ruin the game for the Gs.
I exclude Preet too, because she was against him and she was very probably getting lynched. They whacked Soren that day, so he goes out too as a potential recruit.

This leaves: Ocelot, Voller and Piotrr as the 3rd name on the recruiting list. I know that it wasn't Ocelot. You can't know, but I can and I know.

The recruited person was Voller or Piotrr. The name list they gave to Kate was: X, Alen, Piotrr or X, Alen, Voller.
The fact that Voller and Piotrr found out Tomice on day 2 was because they were both Cs on that day. Only the next day one of them became a G.

Now, this is the story from my perspective, because I know what the Cs don't know. I know that I wasn't recruited. If you make the analysis, then I'm too a strong candidate to be the one they eventually recruited.

For the fact that Fred refused to change from Bezzy to Voller even if Fred was here when X changed (why did Fred prefer Bezzy to be lynched instead of Voller if both Bezzy and Voller were civilians????), as well as for the fact that Voller was strongly pushing for my head yesterday instead of Fred's, I vote Voller.

The other two Gs... well, I have my candidates and I'm just waiting to see how they'll vote for me or whoever is put against Voller today. I know that 2 of 4 members are Gs. I believe that I know which two, but I'll wait to see how they vote first.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
For the fact that Fred refused to change from Bezzy to Voller even if Fred was here when X changed (why did Fred prefer Bezzy to be lynched instead of Voller if both Bezzy and Voller were civilians????), as well as for the fact that Voller was strongly pushing for my head yesterday instead of Fred's, I vote Voller.
Interesting. Fred knew that keeping Janna in the game instead would be an advantage for G's if Völler were a C. Janna's such a mental brainfart that she would wreck havoc among the C's if kept alive (she did wreck havoc with her immature behaviour), but she could have kept doing that.

Thing is Alen. Keeping Völler in the game has two advantage for Fred as well.

1) Völler will draw attention from the real recruit
2) Fred voting Völler instead of Janna (a C) makes Fred look less like a G.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
1) Völler will draw attention from the real recruit
2) Fred voting Völler instead of Janna (a C) makes Fred look less like a G.
The first one is valid. The 2nd one not at all. X changed from Janna to Voller. People followed him. Fred was here and he didn't. He stuck his vote to Janna and didn't move. Then X changed back to Janna and Janna was lynched, but the fact that Fred refused to change speaks volumes.
Even if both Janna and Voller were Cs, Fred was gonna follow X and change from Janna to Voller. But he didn't. He simply refused to put Voller in danger.

Even if both Janna and Voller were Cs and Fred somehow wanted Voller to stay alive, he didn't want it that much to incriminate himself by not following X and not vote for Voller. Only if Voller is a G Fred would have incriminated himself like that.
Fred was lynched yesterday mostly for the fact that he didn't change from Janna to Voller. Trying to save Voller costs Fred his life. I know Fred and I doubt he did it only because he wanted the C Voller to remain in the game and draw attention from the real recruit. That's impossible.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Odd that you know Fred this well, yet you weren't really the guy that went after him. Why didn't you see that Fred was a G with your knowledge of Fred and his behaviour in this game.

Kinda odd how little you've been the guy that lynched the G's despite you being "a good player".
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
Odd that you know Fred this well, yet you weren't really the guy that went after him. Why didn't you see that Fred was a G with your knowledge of Fred and his behaviour in this game.

Kinda odd how little you've been the guy that lynched the G's despite you being "a good player".
I lynched Fred. Well, in a way.

Two days ago I exchanged PMs with X and he asked me who is a G between three people. I told him that I think all of them are Gs, but Fred is a certain one. You can't trust anything in this game, but one thing you can believe is that I wouldn't fuckin kill Fred if I'm a G.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
I lynched Fred. Well, in a way.

Two days ago I exchanged PMs with X and he asked me who is a G between three people. I told him that I think all of them are Gs, but Fred is a certain one. You can't trust anything in this game, but one thing you can believe is that I wouldn't fuckin kill Fred if I'm a G.
Why didn't you start a campaign against Fred? You could easily have taken him out.
 

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