Mafia: Trouble in DheeWorld (11 Viewers)

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
We didn't really need the lawyer. We don't need him to save people from getting lynched. We're lynching the people X wants to be lynched, so no need for the lawyer.
But the Gs needed the lawyer. If they recruited him, they'd probably win the game. Once they failed to recruit him, they didn't need him either and if they assumed that X and the lawyer are in contact, they wanted a sure civilian with special powers whacked.

But you know all this :D
How likely do you find it that neither you or Völler is a G?
 

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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
How likely do you find it that neither you or Völler is a G?
Pretty unlikely. We're not a G only if Fred recruited someone else.

For my long post above, I seriously doubt that he recruited someone else. Only in case they had strong suspicions on day 4 about someone being the lawyer, neither of me and Voller are Gs.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Pretty unlikely. We're not a G only if Fred recruited someone else.

For my long post above, I seriously doubt that he recruited someone else. Only in case they had strong suspicions on day 4 about someone being the lawyer, neither of me and Voller are Gs.
What if Fred knew you would think this way and therefore kept you alive to confuse us, so we would overlook the real recruit?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
What if Fred knew you would think this way and therefore kept you alive to confuse us, so we would overlook the real recruit?
Too much planning ahead is required for this. Back then Fred didn't know if he'll be lynched or not. He and Preet were fighting for life until the last minute. He had to recruit and think fast who to recruit. He had no time for plotting, and even more - for planning what will happen many days later.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Too much planning ahead is required for this. Back then Fred didn't know if he'll be lynched or not. He and Preet were fighting for life until the last minute. He had to recruit and think fast who to recruit. He had no time for plotting, and even more - for planning what will happen many days later.
So what you're saying in short: I'm not a G. So Völler must be?

Btw. @Alen there's something I wonder about. Why is it that you're too good a player to not have been on that recruitment list, yet not good enough to get the C's to join you, if you suggest a G.

That makes no sense. Unless you're a good G, but a bad C?

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@Völler

Could you again explain why you went for Alen instead of Fred?

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SO here's an idea:

Fred, ALC, Tomice, Mr. Chocolat and Alen starts out as C's.

Fred and Alen are quick to see that they have two very experienced players in their G-squad. So what do they do?

Obviously they say: "We need to look like, we are a bunch of newbs. Otherwise Alen and Fred will be figured out too soon. We need to make a mistake on purpose ie. Tomice's suicide"

And after that, they've recruited.. Völler
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
SO here's an idea:

Fred, ALC, Tomice, Mr. Chocolat and Alen starts out as C's.

Fred and Alen are quick to see that they have two very experienced players in their G-squad. So what do they do?

Obviously they say: "We need to look like, we are a bunch of newbs. Otherwise Alen and Fred will be figured out too soon. We need to make a mistake on purpose ie. Tomice's suicide"

And after that, they've recruited.. Völler
I can't find words to describe how terrible idea this was :D
 

piotrr

Мodеrator
Sep 13, 2011
34,009
SO here's an idea:

Fred, ALC, Tomice, Mr. Chocolat and Alen starts out as C's.

Fred and Alen are quick to see that they have two very experienced players in their G-squad. So what do they do?

Obviously they say: "We need to look like, we are a bunch of newbs. Otherwise Alen and Fred will be figured out too soon. We need to make a mistake on purpose ie. Tomice's suicide"

And after that, they've recruited.. Völler
Small possibility imo, they lost Choco due to inactivity and at the same time decided to sacrifice another G?
Also, there was no interest in Tomice whatsoever before i posted the screenshots .
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
Small possibility imo, they lost Choco due to inactivity and at the same time decided to sacrifice another G?
Also, there was no interest in Tomice whatsoever before i posted the screenshots .
You're actually explaining him why is that impossible? :D

Let me join you then...

Tomice said he's the detective. The Gs knew who's the detective. Why did me and Fred let Tomice do it? We'd have told him to keep quiet so we can whack the D in peace. Instead, with that act Tomice allowed the Detective to go public and ask for protection.
Tomice made a mistake and Fred wasn't online to tell him not to. I was here and I'd have told Tomice not to. You don't miss out on whacking the D just to pretend that the Gs are a group of noobs.

Also, I know the jailer and with such small odds to find the lawyer among 10 or so civilians ( i discussed this with X in Pms), I'd have simply recruited one of Adonis and the jailer. I wouldn't recruit Voller.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
I can't find words to describe how terrible idea this was :D
You are so keen to make you or völler look like the recruited C. Knowing it could cost your life as a C and therefore the game. That makes no sense, unless you know as a G that we won't go after Völler if you turn out to be a G and the other way around.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
You are so keen to make you or völler look like the recruited C. Knowing it could cost your life as a C and therefore the game. That makes no sense, unless you know as a G that we won't go after Völler if you turn out to be a G and the other way around.
You're approaching Janna level of logic right now. Don't overthink things.
It's 6:3 for the Cs. The Gs can't plot now and risk losing a G. They can only try to lynch a C today.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
You're approaching Janna level of logic right now. Don't overthink things.
It's 6:3 for the Cs. The Gs can't plot now and risk losing a G. They can only try to lynch a C today.
Then you are underestimating me. But tell me. Who do you think if not Völler is a G?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,986
Then you are underestimating me. But tell me. Who do you think if not Völler is a G?
I'm 99% sure who are the other two. But for that 1% I don't want to say their names.
In case I'm wrong and one of them isn't a G, he will think I'm a G trying to frame him and he will vote for me :p

I can tell you in PM if you want.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
I'm 99% sure who are the other two. But for that 1% I don't want to say their names.
In case I'm wrong and one of them isn't a G, he will think I'm a G trying to frame him and he will vote for me :p

I can tell you in PM if you want.
You are more than welcome to. I shall not post this one :p
 

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