Mafia: Trouble in DheeWorld (7 Viewers)

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
The only logical thing would be one of you getting whacked. You are by far the most experienced players in the game. The fact that you haven't been whacked yet is insane! And no, if you would have been whacked, it wouldn't have meant that Fred would have been a G too. Same thing the other way around. But that NEITHER of you were whacked is suspicious. And you have to know that yourself.
There is no doubt that experienced players being around for so long is cause for the question why haven't they been whacked. But it doesn't always work that way. Going by that logic though, why do you think you haven't been whacked? I mean you have been far more active than me, you've rarely ever been in danger of getting lynched, you are obviously a good player, so why do you think they haven't whacked you?

I think Alen started of as a C, even though i doubted him a lot in the first days, whether he has then been recruited is a big question mark. There is at least a 50% chance that he has either been recruited or will be recruited, there is a 100% chance if he didn't start off as a G, that his name will be in the list of recruits. Why? first of all, the detective died early so other than adonis, the G's cannot know for sure who the other special roles are, second of all, and this is a consequence of the first reason, since they can't know for sure who the special roles are, chances are they'd want alen on their team.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,837
Kinda lost my faith in Alen today tbh

i think you are the 2nd most suspicious person here

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There is no doubt that experienced players being around for so long is cause for the question why haven't they been whacked. But it doesn't always work that way. Going by that logic though, why do you think you haven't been whacked? I mean you have been far more active than me, you've rarely ever been in danger of getting lynched, you are obviously a good player, so why do you think they haven't whacked you?

I think Alen started of as a C, even though i doubted him a lot in the first days, whether he has then been recruited is a big question mark. There is at least a 50% chance that he has either been recruited or will be recruited, there is a 100% chance if he didn't start off as a G, that his name will be in the list of recruits. Why? first of all, the detective died early so other than adonis, the G's cannot know for sure who the other special roles are, second of all, and this is a consequence of the first reason, since they can't know for sure who the special roles are, chances are they'd want alen on their team.

add to that the feeling that somehow i trust him and he knows the jailer's identity
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
i think you are the 2nd most suspicious person here

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add to that the feeling that somehow i trust him and he knows the jailer's identity
Nah, absolutely not.


On the other hand, ALen is becomming pretty shady, and Adonis is kinda playing Alen's usual role imo

Its just hard to see wether they are excellent players, or fooling everyone with their charade
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
Lets stop losing time in meaningless things.

There is a 50% chance that I was recruited. I know that I can't gain anyone's trust with such a fact. I'm not trying to.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
You all put your votes on me, waiting for the 5th one to show, with hope that a C will also make a change of votes. Unfortunately for you, the wild card Sheik auto lynched himself. He was surely gonna make it a draw.
So you think all the G's voted on you and didn't spread out? That's pretty naive, I'd say.

The question is, if you were so adamant yesterday that ALC was the best bet, why didn't you vote for him? Please don't give me the bs about your vote not making a difference, because when you moved your vote from ALC, there was still a long time to go until deadline time.
Because more and more talked against Alen for me. I was more suspicious about him than ALC. But honestly, if I had planned to move away from ALC and move my vote to Alen, do you think I would have brought so much attention to ALC? I brought him up again and again.

How long have you been preparing this speech?

Let me ask you another question then: why isn't the only confirmed C (Adonis) whacked yet? Why did they whack Soren and Ocelot instead of the confirmed civilian?

And how come you don't ask this question, but you ask questions about me and Fred not getting whacked?
I answered your question, how is that a prepared speech? You're right about Adonis, it's a good question. Logically, he should have been dead before Ocelot for sure, and Søren too. The only logical answer is that he's either a G or that his posts and votes are doing more harm to the C's than good. Just look at your PM that he shared.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Well, I guess that's it for me.

I'm still out with friends, just went on for a minute to check the results, will read the rest tomorrow.

Congrats on getting a G.

It was a fucking awesome game, I'm already looking forward to the next one.

Good luck!
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
@Alen

Why din't you put yourself in jail? Why weren't you afraid of being whacked? If I were in your situation, I would be very afraid of getting whacked (if I were a civilian).

G or Jailer? Both?

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no way to confirm that of course
Of course not. And as I said I'm not gonna fight to convince I haven't been recruited.
 

piotrr

Мodеrator
Sep 13, 2011
34,009
@Alen

Why din't you put yourself in jail? Why weren't you afraid of being whacked? If I were in your situation, I would be very afraid of getting whacked (if I were a civilian).

G or Jailer? Both?
Adonis, i asked this to myself yesterday but then i checked the rules, the jailer can't put himself in the jail... Was Alen in the jail? Nope.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Adonis, i asked this to myself yesterday but then i checked the rules, the jailer can't put himself in the jail... Was Alen in the jail? Nope.
Well, isn't that exactly what I write? (remember Alen claims to know the jailer, but not being the jailer)

X should be able to confirm if Alen's the jailer. Otherwise ALen reeks of being recruited.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
Just look at your PM that he shared.
And that's one mind fuck.

Now, if we take it that one of me and Adonis was recruited (which is the only logical thing even though looking at the Gs who died so far, I'm not so sure it's a group that works on logic) there are so many questions about that PM

Say I was the recruited player...
- Why did I make such a plan at all when ALC was in my gang? Was it an attempt to save ALC? And the next minute I offered myself as the 2nd name with whom ALC will share the votes. Did I put myself and ALC as the only two lynching candidates, despite being Gs? Why did the Gs allow 2 gangsters to be put against each other? And since I was one of the players, why did they risk me and ALC, when they could have framed Janna (there were some attempts to do that, I'll have to check)?

Say Adonis wasn't recruited...
- Why on earth would he compromise such a good plan? Because he's naive?

Say Adonis was recruited...
- He did ruin my plan. Then again, it would have been smarter if he simply shared it with his G buddies, but if naive works for him as a defense, can't it work as well as attack?
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,998
Well, isn't that exactly what I write? (remember Alen claims to know the jailer, but not being the jailer)

X should be able to confirm if Alen's the jailer. Otherwise ALen reeks of being recruited.
I can be recruited no matter if I'm the jailer or not. If my name was on their list, I have a 50% chance to be a G now, since I'm neither the D or the BG.
 

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