Mafia: Trouble in DheeWorld (28 Viewers)

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,797
Ok, so I just spent the last 45 minutes reading up on all the drama here, the auto lynches were necessary, fuck all those who signed up and didn't bother to turn up, its an uphill task now :disagree: But Mr. Chocolate :lol: :lol: a G, yet he doesn't bother avoiding the auto lynch :lol:

On a more serious note, I just read about the whole PM fiasco yesterday, and don't know what to make of it, if i were around yesterday, I'd have said someone used Voeller's name to fish around, got lucky because Voeller turned out to be a G, that would have made Preet and Salvo automatic G's. Salvo turned out to be a C eventually, does that mean Preet too was trolling, and just didn't take it seriously? IMO her response, "lets whack Fred" is a much more incriminating response than Salvo's "uhm, ya" . So just because Salvo turned out to be a C, doesn't mean that Preet isn't a G. But Preet would only be a G, if Voeller was actually a G too. So one option, is going after one of those two. Now, whomever made the fake account must be a C, that is what conventional wisdom would suggest, who would most likely do something like this? Soren and Alen spring to mind. However, Alen has done it before, he made a fake account when he was a G, I think he had Quatzelwhatever and Sheik on his team then, so whoever made the account could still be a G, even if its such a risky move to do at the start of the game.


The other thing I looked closely at was the voting at the end, Preet was almost going to be lynched, in the end Alen, then Adonis and finally Soren shifted to Salvo and dealt the final blow. Adonis was trying to save himself, I can understand that, but Alen and Soren would look extremely bad if Preet turned out to be a G.

Lynching Soren,Voeller, Alen or Preet would give us a lot of answers today.
but you were around and you went after salvo pretty hard
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
but you were around and you went after salvo pretty hard
First of all, I wasn't around when the PM fiasco happened. Second, if you read my post properly, you'd see that I said that if I was around the PM fiasco would have made me believe even more that Salvo was a G. I'd probably have stuck with my vote, unless people would have been willing to vote for Voeller, because if he turned out to be a G that would have incriminated both Salvo and Preet(without the benefit of hindsight that Salvo turned out to be a C), as opposed to going after one of the latter two, and hoping one of them wasn't just giving a troll response. The whole premise behind lynching someone based on the PM fiasco hinges on whether or not Voeller is a G.
 

piotrr

Мodеrator
Sep 13, 2011
34,009
On a more serious note, I just read about the whole PM fiasco yesterday, and don't know what to make of it, if i were around yesterday, I'd have said someone used Voeller's name to fish around, got lucky because Voeller turned out to be a G, that would have made Preet and Salvo automatic G's. Salvo turned out to be a C eventually, does that mean Preet too was trolling, and just didn't take it seriously? IMO her response, "lets whack Fred" is a much more incriminating response than Salvo's "uhm, ya" . So just because Salvo turned out to be a C, doesn't mean that Preet isn't a G. But Preet would only be a G, if Voeller was actually a G too. So one option, is going after one of those two.
Too much luck at once... Firstly picking Voller and accidentaly he's a G, then picking Preet and accidentaly she's also a G and what's more she omits the recipients list? Nah. Iirc she joked about you getting killed as a first person even before the game.

I don't think there's more than 1G amongst the recipients of the PM.
 

Ford Prefect

Senior Member
May 28, 2009
10,557
We can't know if you're sarcastic. In this game sarcasm might cost you a lynch.
Now, please, without sarcasm, share your thoughts about this game, tell us who do you find suspicious and why do you find those persons suspicious.
You, for throwing accusations around at everyone you can for any reason you can.

Ilfj, that was a very sincere reason, who is he?!
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
We should keep him alive for now. If he's not a G he'll probably get whacked soon.
Exactly, but I loved his post where he tells us about the time he was a C and didn't get whacked for 4-5 days with that silly theory on how G's are afraid to whack him :howler: looks a lot like he's preparing us for him "not getting whacked" for the next 4-5 days.

I don't mind going after Preet today, if Alen doesn't get whacked in the next couple of days then that would be cause for concern.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,938
Ok, so I just spent the last 45 minutes reading up on all the drama here, the auto lynches were necessary, fuck all those who signed up and didn't bother to turn up, its an uphill task now :disagree: But Mr. Chocolate :lol: :lol: a G, yet he doesn't bother avoiding the auto lynch :lol:

On a more serious note, I just read about the whole PM fiasco yesterday, and don't know what to make of it, if i were around yesterday, I'd have said someone used Voeller's name to fish around, got lucky because Voeller turned out to be a G, that would have made Preet and Salvo automatic G's. Salvo turned out to be a C eventually, does that mean Preet too was trolling, and just didn't take it seriously? IMO her response, "lets whack Fred" is a much more incriminating response than Salvo's "uhm, ya" . So just because Salvo turned out to be a C, doesn't mean that Preet isn't a G. But Preet would only be a G, if Voeller was actually a G too. So one option, is going after one of those two. Now, whomever made the fake account must be a C, that is what conventional wisdom would suggest, who would most likely do something like this? Soren and Alen spring to mind. However, Alen has done it before, he made a fake account when he was a G, I think he had Quatzelwhatever and Sheik on his team then, so whoever made the account could still be a G, even if its such a risky move to do at the start of the game.


The other thing I looked closely at was the voting at the end, Preet was almost going to be lynched, in the end Alen, then Adonis and finally Soren shifted to Salvo and dealt the final blow. Adonis was trying to save himself, I can understand that, but Alen and Soren would look extremely bad if Preet turned out to be a G.

Lynching Soren,Voeller, Alen or Preet would give us a lot of answers today.
So many contradictions in attempt to sound logical.

First of all, if you conclude that if Preet is a G then Voller must be a G too, then why isn't Voller your suspect?
Second, if Soren, Preet and I are your suspects due to the late vote shifts, why don't you bother check what happened during the voting?

I'll help you:

Preet wasn't in real danger 30 minutes before deadline. It was between Salvo, Tomice and Adonis. But then Soren voted for Preet and I joined. Adonis joined too and ONLY THEN Preet was in danger. We were actually the three people who put Preet on the map. Yes, we later switched from Preet to Salvo, but why did we put her in danger anyway if Soren, Preet and I are Gs? We could vote for Salvo or someone else and not involve Preet at all.

This being said, Preet was really cold once she was in danger. She didn't panic and she didn't even try to defend herself. Probably because we then started voting Salvo and she was safe again. In any case, Preet remains a suspect, and a strong one, but my and Soren's voting had nothing to do with saving Preet.
 

piotrr

Мodеrator
Sep 13, 2011
34,009
We should keep him alive for now. If he's not a G he'll probably get whacked soon.
That's just giving power and control to the G's. No thanks. I'd rather see Alen die on our terms at this stage.
Preet or Alen tonight, but if the D, as we suggested, investigate Alen today, we should all vote on Preet. She was too calm and inactive yesterday
There's a very high probability the D investigated/will investigate Alen, lynching him would be a waste.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Too much luck at once... Firstly picking Voller and accidentaly he's a G, then picking Preet and accidentaly she's also a G and what's more she omits the recipients list? Nah. Iirc she joked about you getting killed as a first person even before the game.

I don't think there's more than 1G amongst the recipients of the PM.
If Voeller was a G, then the ones who answered the PM could very possibly be G's too. thats why, if anyone voted based on the PM fiasco yesterday, they should have voted Voeller, because if Voeller isn't a G, then the whole PM thing is completely meaningless.

You're right about the odds of a C getting Voeller right, thats why I think its very possible that whoever made the double account could very well be a G.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
So many contradictions in attempt to sound logical.

First of all, if you conclude that if Preet is a G then Voller must be a G too, then why isn't Voller your suspect?
Second, if Soren, Preet and I are your suspects due to the late vote shifts, why don't you bother check what happened during the voting?

I'll help you:

Preet wasn't in real danger 30 minutes before deadline. It was between Salvo, Tomice and Adonis. But then Soren voted for Preet and I joined. Adonis joined too and ONLY THEN Preet was in danger. We were actually the three people who put Preet on the map. Yes, we later switched from Preet to Salvo, but why did we put her in danger anyway if Soren, Preet and I are Gs? We could vote for Salvo or someone else and not involve Preet at all.

This being said, Preet was really cold once she was in danger. She didn't panic and she didn't even try to defend herself. Probably because we then started voting Salvo and she was safe again. In any case, Preet remains a suspect, and a strong one, but my and Soren's voting had nothing to do with saving Preet.
First bolded: Of course he's my suspect read my posts, if Voeller isn't a G, then the whole PM fiasco is absolutely meaningless, if I had to choose who should have been lynched yesterday, I'd have chosen Voeller without a doubt, because him being a C or a G tells us whether to take the PM thing seriously.


Second bolded: Because she was safe, you guys didn't expect so many to jump the bandwagon. Perfectly acceptable tactic, I've done it a million times when I was a G, you can vote for anyone during the voting, the only vote that counts is your vote at the deadline ;)
 

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