Mafia: Trouble in DheeWorld (4 Viewers)

[Osman]

Pardon. We were actually some who did that. Perhaps not to the best, then again first time playing.

Go for the jugular next time like a true viking You danes were my fav part of this game, except the part of being too nice to Alen.

 

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[Alen]

Treat him like any other player and not a spectacle and you will notice things going better for you in this game.

But if I'm treated like any other player, this game will be much more easier for me too.

I start every game as everyone's #1 suspect and with their fear that I'm trying to trick them. That's a huge handicap I'm forced to fight against. And when I'm a G and I sometimes have to do some suspicious things, it makes the game for me 10 times harder.

In this particular game I didn't give people reasons to question me, except perhaps that first day attempt to save Tomice. I was questioned solely for not being whacked yet. How do you defend against that kind of shit? I even managed to find 6 reasons today, but it was futile.

 

[Fred]

Osman just for the record I wsnt too keen on whacking you in the first day, really wanted to keep you for a little longer

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But if I'm treated like any other player, this game will be much more easier for me too.

I start every game as everyone's #1 suspect and with their fear that I'm trying to trick them. That's a huge handicap I'm forced to fight against. And when I'm a G and I sometimes have to do some suspicious things, it makes the game for me 10 times harder.

In this particular game I didn't give people reasons to question me, except perhaps that first day attempt to save Tomice. I was questioned solely for not being whacked yet. How do you defend against that kind of shit? I even managed to find 6 reasons today, but it was futile.

tell me about it.

 

[Völler]

Go for the jugular next time like a true viking You danes were my fav part of this game, except the part of being too nice to Alen.

We know you wish you were one of us.

 

[Osman]

The whack thing is something you have to accept for having history in this game (I faced it lots of times as a C, it's annoying) , but they still let you off quite a bit, they occasionally proded you but never really went for you due to it. I mean Ffs this game started like a week ago and you are still around, that says enough of how much they backed off every time they brought it up.

 

[Osman]

Osman just for the record I wsnt too keen on whacking you in the first day, really wanted to keep you for a little longer

Alen said the same, I took it as him bsing me though.

 

[Alen]

Alen said the same, I took it as him bsing me though.

I haven't. I just told you that it wasn't solely my idea. Everyone or almost everyone was for it. You were the obvious candidate on day 1.

 

[Osman]

Ahh you said everyone but one agreed, figured you meant you for some reason, which didn't make sense at all the time, no wonder.

 

[Alen]

The whack thing is something you have to accept for having history in this game (I faced it lots of times as a C, it's annoying) , but they still let you off quite a bit, they occasionally proded you but never really went for you due to it.

But put yourself in their position. They'd die to know my role and they fear I'm a G, but it's not easy to lynch someone just because he might be a G. They had nothing on me, except that I wasn't whacked or that I was probably recruited, because I'm Alen. You can't defend your ass with anything else but "I don't know why I wasn't recruited" or "They gave another name on the list". Even if they pushed me by the wall, I couldn't defend myself with anything else. And that's the same if I'm a C or a G. Now we come back to the first sentence - put yourself in their position. I didn't let my G pals defend me publicly and the Cs would get nothing out of pushing me by the wall. I'd give the same explanation no matter if I'm a C or a G. All the Cs can do in such situation is to lynch me, not because they have something on me, but because they just wanted to lynch me.

 

[radekas]

Tomicegate was good for me. I realized that Tomice is done and there is no way saving him. Then Radekas said how it might be possible that Tomice is being honest that he's the jailer. That was my chance. I jumped in to say that Tomice can't be the jailer because I know the jailer. I knew that Piotrr (still C at the time) will see that and protect me with it. And it did happen.

that was a brilliant move by you. Your initial response made me suspicious as fuck towards you (thats when I was pretty sure to investigate you and made it public). But when you revealed the info about jailer and then piotrr confirmed it to me (after I was whacked though) I was sure that it would be in no Gs business to do it. Only yesterday after Voller's jailing and Piotrr's behavior I realised you manipulated everything from the beginning .

 

[king Ale]

How is that not a mistake?

Jailer role is valuable and trivial at the same time. It is valuable because it can potentially function as a bodyguard and also because it can be recruited. It is not important in that the role will be given to another civilian when the initial jailer is killed. When as the jailer you reveal your role to a C (you may reveal it to the detective or another important role) it may turn to be beneficial but there's obviously no harm in it. When you reveal your jailer role to a G you make sure you won't be whacked because Gs will try to include you in the recruiting targets. I remember Osman did the same thing before, he revealed his role to me (I wasn't a gangster). So what Piotrr did had potential benefits and no harm but it was weird because you wouldn't expect it from an inexperienced player (I assume).

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Alen must have been figured out a couple nights ago because he was making perfect sense with his posts and he was still alive. Apart from his very (too much) sensible posts, there was no other reason for the Gs to whack him (if he was a C) so I think we should end this "why Alen/Fred/Osman is still alive" crap once and for all Experience and expertise matter only when you are a G. As a C those "good" players are as good as anybody else. Actually because they follow logic they are in a greater danger of falling for a strong argument provided by a good G. Alen must have been figured out only because he was showing signs of a very good C and this is not what Gs would tolerate normally

 

[Ford Prefect]

But put yourself in their position. They'd die to know my role and they fear I'm a G, but it's not easy to lynch someone just because he might be a G. They had nothing on me, except that I wasn't whacked or that I was probably recruited, because I'm Alen. You can't defend your ass with anything else but "I don't know why I wasn't recruited" or "They gave another name on the list". Even if they pushed me by the wall, I couldn't defend myself with anything else. And that's the same if I'm a C or a G. Now we come back to the first sentence - put yourself in their position. I didn't let my G pals defend me publicly and the Cs would get nothing out of pushing me by the wall. I'd give the same explanation no matter if I'm a C or a G. All the Cs can do in such situation is to lynch me, not because they have something on me, but because they just wanted to lynch me.

I think it was such an issue this round because both you and Fred were gs, I noticed something was up with both of you - as I noted repeatedly. If you wernt both gs then I don't think it would have come up - I don't remember it happening before.

 

[king Ale]

Btw, this BG role suit X perfectly. I know he loves to be a C but it'd be really funny to see him as a G sometime. I refuse to believe that he can lie He won C's the game. No other proven bodyguard (who, technically, can never be any more reliable than other Cs in terms of hunches) would be able to influence the votes as much as he did

 

[Völler]

Jailer role is valuable and trivial at the same time. It is valuable because it can potentially function as a bodyguard and also because it can be recruited. It is not important in that the role will be given to another civilian when the initial jailer is killed. When as the jailer you reveal your role to a C (you may reveal it to the detective or another important role) it may turn to be beneficial but there's obviously no harm in it. When you reveal your jailer role to a G you make sure you won't be whacked because Gs will try to include you in the recruiting targets. I remember Osman did the same thing before, he revealed his role to me (I wasn't a gangster). So what Piotrr did had potential benefits and no harm but it was weird because you wouldn't expect it from an inexperienced player (I assume).

How is that "no harm"? Also, one thing is an experienced player doing it, but an inexperienced player revealing himself to Alen is just asking to be toyed with.

 

[king Ale]

How is that "no harm"? Also, one thing is an experienced player doing it, but an inexperienced player revealing himself to Alen is just asking to be toyed with.

I'm talking about the player's perspective, not the Cs'. This will be at best beneficial and at worst harmless to the team that the jailer is/will be a member of

 

[Völler]

I'm talking about the player's perspective, not the Cs'. This will be at best beneficial and at worst harmless to the team that the jailer is/will be a member of

That's the wrong perspective imo. Imo you play for the team you are on, not yourself.

 

[Hængebøffer]

Kings of the North

 

[king Ale]

That's the wrong perspective imo. Imo you play for the team you are on, not yourself.

The beauty of that move is in that you increase the chances of having helped a future employer

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Kings of the North

perfect! that really should be the name of the danish gang

 

[Völler]

The beauty of that move is in that you increase the chances of having helped a future employer

You are already playing on the best team, you don't want to be considered for recruitment.

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perfect! that really should be the name of the danish gang

Zach could be Reek then. What a bandwagon peasant. Janna is Hodor.