Mafia: The Tuz-seidon Adventure (3 Viewers)

[Alen]

I know you would say this, but I have had this discussion with you in past games (and sabet), and you know full well why I am saying this. My role in a current game has no signifance whatsoever to me when it comes to the rules, I never liked how you like to alter or influence the rules to how you like it. You did it when you were narrator, or suggested/told narrators to do it when you were a player. Its very simple, every action except the jailer is revealed after night time phase. I like to play this game how its supposed to be like, not overly interested if its your own versions of it (didnt play few games due to this in the past, besides being busy etc).

What I know is that you interpret the rules depending on your role.

In this particular case, Kate did follow the rules. It was the D's mistake that he lost an entire investigation. But knowing you, if you were a C, you'd have done your best to convince Kate that she's wrong and she should tell the D what's Zach's role.

 

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[Zacheryah]

I know you would say this, but I have had this discussion with you in past games (and sabet), and you know full well why I am saying this. My role in a current game has no signifance whatsoever to me when it comes to the rules, I never liked how you like to alter or influence the rules to how you like it. You did it when you were narrator, or suggested/told narrators to do it when you were a player. Its very simple, every action except the jailer is revealed after night time phase. I like to play this game how its supposed to be like, not overly interested if its your own versions of it (didnt play few games due to this in the past, besides being busy etc).

You could uhm, you know, VOTE HIM

 

[Salvo]

Ok, this means that the D won't learn about Zach's role until tonight.

Lets not lynch Zach then, because the D will know his role by tonight. Unfortunately, the D lost an entire investigation.

What is the difference? We will have answers either way. I am more than happy to vote Piotrr or Soren, the latter being a prime suspect of mine. Alen, if you aren't a C, you are playing everyone along here. I mean, you could have a special role.

 

[Alen]

Zach

If Zach is a C, then I will have to vote Alen next up.

Don't vote Zach. We will know his role tonight.

The detective investigated me and he knows I'm a civilian. If not, he'd blazed the gun on me by now, or he'd have went public and told you all I'm a liar. Now, some will play on the card, like Osman did, that I might be recruited in the meantime. Watch out for those.
In any case, DO NOT VOTE ZACH, because we will learn his role anyway after 21:00 CET tonight.

Choose someone else. Mostly those old members who pretend that don't understand what I'm saying here.

 

[Salvo]

Ahh Alen...Or you don't know the D and you are talking a lot of crap. But for now, I will play along. My vote will either be Cuti, Piot or Soren.

 

[Völler]

Alen, who is "we"?

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How will we know Zach's role?

 

[Osman]

What I know is that you interpret the rules depending on your role.

In this particular case, Kate did follow the rules. It was the D's mistake that he lost an entire investigation. But knowing you, if you were a C, you'd have done your best to convince Kate that she's wrong and she should tell the D what's Zach's role.

Thats utter BS and you know it (quote me on it, or you assume peeps are as selfish in your thinking as you), in fact the games we had heated debates about this was a game Sabet was narrator and I was civilian, you guys changed narrator to getting investigations in the middle of the day, and I was confused as heck and disagreed vehemently, also the same thing with you were changing the jail role. Years later, and you still go with the same petty agenda of changing things. I played this game in various places, besides here and XT (90% here, few roles introduced here is strictly from there, like jailer and such), and NEVER has the detective gotten the investigation in the middle of the day except when you did it here, and there is a reason for it. The balance of day time and night time is important in this game, you dont mess with it, REGARDLESS what my role is in a game, I prefer to play it as its meant to be.


There is so real significance to me in this instance since its more likely Zach is a civilian then otherwise (unless he has been recruited, which would be bizzare, but genial).

 

[Zacheryah]

Don't vote Zach. We will know his role tonight.

The detective investigated me and he knows I'm a civilian. If not, he'd blazed the gun on me by now, or he'd have went public and told you all I'm a liar. Now, some will play on the card, like Osman did, that I might be recruited in the meantime. Watch out for those.
In any case, DO NOT VOTE ZACH, because we will learn his role anyway after 21:00 CET tonight.

Choose someone else. Mostly those old members who pretend that don't understand what I'm saying here.

You cannot know if the D investigated you..

Ahh Alen...Or you don't know the D and you are talking a lot of crap. But for now, I will play along. My vote will either be Cuti, Piot or Soren.

you follow that alen,yes, please do

 

[Völler]

How will the D reveal it, and how are we sure we hear the truth?

 

[Alen]

I will now try to convince the D to go public.

If I succeed, the jailer should jail the detective so he can't be lynched. If I'm lynched tonight, then all of you follow the detective after that. One night the BG will protect him, the next night the jailer will jail him. In any case, the D should be protected.

 

[Osman]

You could uhm, you know, VOTE HIM

Is this your only way to try to convince ppl? You could try harder, unlike him, I dont think Alen is saying the above due to his role in current game, I had same talk with him in the past, and he allways tries to do this, bend the rules to his liking.

 

[Alen]

You cannot know if the D investigated you..

I can if he told me, which he did.

If I'm lying, then the real detective can blaze the gun right now and kill me. Why isn't the real detective doing that?

We will all know your role after 21:00 CET tonight. Unfortunately, if you're just a C, it's possible that the Gs will whack you.

 

[Salvo]

Alen, if you are in contact with the D, wouldn't the g's whack you tonight?

 

[Zacheryah]

why would g's wack me, as its obvious c's are gonna lynch me soon ? they'd better just wack someone else

why would the D do that so soon ? he should be patient

And why would a D make himself open to you. YOU from all people. would be the most horrible mistake ever. even a noob like me sees that

 

[Kate]

Voeller - Piotrr

Cuti - Soren

Alen - Zach
Fake Melo - Zach
Mr Chocolate - Zach
Lemon - Zach
Matt - Zach
Salvo - Zach

Osman, Fred, ALC, Tomice, Gep, X, Søren Krarup, Sheik, Zacheryah, adRHCP, Fr3sh, Jasper, IliveForJuve, SABSAB, Piotrr left to vote

 

[Alen]

Alen, who is "we"?

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How will we know Zach's role?

We, all of us.

The detective investigated Zach yesterday evening. Unfortunately, he did it after 21:00 CET, which means Kate won't tell him about Zach's role until the deadline tonight. But tonight we will know his role.

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why would g's wack me, as its obvious c's are gonna lynch me soon ? they'd better just wack someone else

No, you won't be lynched today.

Do not vote Zach, any of you!

 

[Völler]

Alen, your own vote is on Zach know as far as I can see.

 

[Osman]

I will now try to convince the D to go public.

So you have an excuse to say you all knew his role when he becomes whack target? Instead of him being whacked tonight if only you know his role? Because really, I'm trying to get this logic, whats the urgent practical need to give away ones trump card like that TODAY? The immediate practical need for this is? Because D might aswell out himself when he investigates a G, but now, the gain is? To out himself simply because his mouth piece, you, might be whacked? (when you havent been so far), like he couldnt simply out himself anyways if you are whacked as you suspect.

 

[Alen]

Alen, if you are in contact with the D, wouldn't the g's whack you tonight?

They probably will. Me or Zach (if Zach is a C). Actually, they most probably will because I hope the jailer will jail the D, so that the D can't be whacked.

JAILER, do not jail anyone right now. Wait for the detective to go public.

 

[Zacheryah]

yeah, ask alen, he'll tell you the rules