Mafia 2020 v2 || The FANATIC (10 Viewers)

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
Im going to sleep for 3-4 hours. @Alen keep an eye on Gs. For now my vote is:
No Lynch
Isn't no lynch the obvious choice for today ?
If we vote wrong and the g's recruit then we are going to become 11 to 4 .
Voting no lynch would give the detective time to investigate so the chances of finding a g would increase.

How can he since he looks like a g himself. :)

They do seem to form a gang of some sorts ,where Snobist is the leader .
Where is the third member?
 

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kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
They do seem to form a gang of some sorts ,where Snobist is the leader .
Where is the third member?
A civilian gang obviously.
Was there any flaw in my judgement?
Please do tell why no lynch is a flawed argument for a civilian .
G' are more trigger happy like you and Allen have proved to be till now.


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Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
A civilian gang obviously.
Was there any flaw in my judgement?
Please do tell why no lynch is a flawed argument for a civilian .
G' are more trigger happy like you and Allen have proved to be till now.


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The Gs don't like no lynch, that's almost always true. They'd accept it only if one of them is at risk of being lynched.
For the Cs, it depends. In the last game I insisted on it, because it was the difference between a 2-days game and a longer game. This time I'm not sure. At 15:3 (14:4), we are guaranteed not to see a G win for at least 5 days and we can risk a civilian death on day 1, just to shake things up and see some things that might be helpful later in the day.

Actually, I prefer we vote out someone today. If we're lucky, a G's name might be among those who'll fight for their life come deadline and that can be very helpful from tomorrow on.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
A civilian gang obviously.
Was there any flaw in my judgement?
Please do tell why no lynch is a flawed argument for a civilian .
G' are more trigger happy like you and Allen have proved to be till now.


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I was using you're quote.
You have followed Snobist when he suggested me and Alen are working together, then you followed his lead when he said no lynch.
I get the need to follow someone when you are playing for the first time, but following someone who also plays for the first time just seem weird.

Also if anything G's are quite the opposite of trigger happy, more so on the first day. The normal strategy is to blend in and not lead the charge, even less likely that two G's will do that on the same day
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
The Gs don't like no lynch, that's almost always true. They'd accept it only if one of them is at risk of being lynched.
For the Cs, it depends. In the last game I insisted on it, because it was the difference between a 2-days game and a longer game. This time I'm not sure. At 15:3 (14:4), we are guaranteed not to see a G win for at least 5 days and we can risk a civilian death on day 1, just to shake things up and see some things that might be helpful later in the day.

Actually, I prefer we vote out someone today. If we're lucky, a G's name might be among those who'll fight for their life come deadline and that can be very helpful from tomorrow on.
"If we're lucky "?. I thought you liked to play the numbers game. Numbers dictate that the chances increase after the detective investigates someone,maybe de bodyguard comes out.
So why should we play in the g's favour based on luck?
I agree that it would spice the game up though.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
"If we're lucky "?. I thought you liked to play the numbers game. Numbers dictate that the chances increase after the detective investigates someone,maybe de bodyguard comes out.
So why should we play in the g's favour based on luck?
I agree that it would spice the game up though.
The D in the last game had a 30% chance to investigate a G on day 1, with the bodyguard coming out. Even without the BG, the chances were 27%.
The D's chance to investigate a G tonight is 17%

Since the chance for the D to be successful tonight is low, we probably won't get anything at all if we go no lynch. We'll completely waste the opening 2 days, because even tomorrow we'll be lost.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
I was using you're quote.
You have followed Snobist when he suggested me and Alen are working together, then you followed his lead when he said no lynch.
I get the need to follow someone when you are playing for the first time, but following someone who also plays for the first time just seem weird.

Also if anything G's are quite the opposite of trigger happy, more so on the first day. The normal strategy is to blend in and not lead the charge, even less likely that two G's will do that on the same day
So pointing out a good strategy means I'm following someone?
It did seem odd that since he called you two out you seem to have climbed on his back ,for no apparent reason .
He specifically said that he votes no lynch, a tactic not suited for g's.
So what should I make out of this?
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
"If we're lucky "?. I thought you liked to play the numbers game. Numbers dictate that the chances increase after the detective investigates someone,maybe de bodyguard comes out.
So why should we play in the g's favour based on luck?
I agree that it would spice the game up though.
It's only true if the D hits a G. Otherwise he need to expose himself just so he can save a C, that is a risk the D shouldn't take for a normal C, especially so early when the game isn't on the line.

It can also be argued that no-lynch as the only option in the voting will just give the C's another day without any new information from the last. As a G I wouldn't mind that, more so with so many suspected G's in play.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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I was using you're quote.
You have followed Snobist when he suggested me and Alen are working together, then you followed his lead when he said no lynch.
I get the need to follow someone when you are playing for the first time, but following someone who also plays for the first time just seem weird.

Also if anything G's are quite the opposite of trigger happy, more so on the first day. The normal strategy is to blend in and not lead the charge, even less likely that two G's will do that on the same day
So shot in the dark?
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
The D in the last game had a 30% chance to investigate a G on day 1, with the bodyguard coming out. Even without the BG, the chances were 27%.
The D's chance to investigate a G tonight is 17%

Since the chance for the D to be successful tonight is low, we probably won't get anything at all if we go no lynch. We'll completely waste the opening 2 days, because even tomorrow we'll be lost.
Still better than potentially losing 3 today and 2 tomorrow.
I say we potentially lose 2 today and if nothing comes out of it 1 tomorrow and play the long game.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
So pointing out a good strategy means I'm following someone?
It did seem odd that since he called you two out you seem to have climbed on his back ,for no apparent reason .
He specifically said that he votes no lynch, a tactic not suited for g's.
So what should I make out of this?
What are you talking about? I believe that Snobist is the bodyguard.
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
So pointing out a good strategy means I'm following someone?
It did seem odd that since he called you two out you seem to have climbed on his back ,for no apparent reason .
He specifically said that he votes no lynch, a tactic not suited for g's.
So what should I make out of this?
What are you talking about? I believe that Snobist is the bodyguard.
:lol:

Not to mention Snobist never mentioned me before I voted for him
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,924
You mentioned me post #5 .
I qouted you post #102 .
You voted for me post #184 .
So that's just not true.

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Yeah, correction. It was after I said I'll vote for you. It's then when you started feeling uncomfortable. After I actually voted for you, you went full panic mode.
 

kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
7,469
and this makes sense how?

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@kappa96

are you saying the Gs are recruiting on the first day?
If they recruit we are going to be 14 to 4 since we start 15 to 3 so we lose 1 and if the lynching goes bad we lose 2 ,so that means in the first day 3 .
If the detective doesn't guess right tomorrow we stand to lose another 2 civilians .
We could be 10 to 4 after 2 days.
If we vote no lynch today and the detective doesn't find nothing tonight we could do it again tomorrow and only be down 12 to 4 at the worst case scenario.

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kappa96

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Jun 20, 2018
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Yeah, correction. It was after I said I'll vote for you. It's then when you started feeling uncomfortable. After I actually voted for you, you went full panic mode.
Yeah ,right . You probably expected to vote you back . That ain't happening g'.
I vote no lynch and hope that you are investigated tonight.


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