Mafia 2020 v2 || The FANATIC (19 Viewers)

[kappa96]

Matt : Okay we're going with Ronn today
Kyle : based on?

A decision has been made Kyle , you questioning it will not change it.

Matt: Check back my recent interaction with Ronn

Mr choco : Ronn

Kyle: why was Gordo jailed? To protect him or because youre suspicious he is recruited?

Matt replying to Kyle : Ask the jailer. He didnt have patience and took it upon himself - Radekas downvotes Matt

 

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Matt : Okay we're going with Ronn today
Kyle : based on?

A decision has been made Kyle , you questioning it will not change it.

Matt: Check back my recent interaction with Ronn

Mr choco : Ronn

Kyle: why was Gordo jailed? To protect him or because youre suspicious he is recruited?

Matt replying to Kyle : Ask the jailer. He didnt have patience and took it upon himself - Radekas downvotes Matt

yes this game has had some odd exchanges but im not sure what you are implying here?

 

[Snobist]

Bro i love you

 

[kappa96]

yes this game has had some odd exchanges but im not sure what you are implying here?

I'm not implying anything.
I just find it how you put it odd.

 

[radekas]

What's odd about disliking a retarded jailer job?

 

[kappa96]

What's odd about disliking a retarded jailer job?

You disliked Matt's post in reply to Kyle.
That has nothing to do with the jailer.
From a c point a view that's a clever answer ,yet you disliked it.
Why is that ?
Also why did you at one time in that day voted Snobist day 2, since you know one of Matt and Snobist is the bg?

 

[radekas]

You disliked Matt's post in reply to Kyle.
That has nothing to do with the jailer.
From a c point a view that's a clever answer ,yet you disliked it.

It has everything to do with the jailer. Not coordinating the jail with Matt was terrible. And I disliked it.

But let's say you are right and it didn't have anything to do with the jailer. What exactly would that mean?

Seems like you are trying to put attention on someone and ser if it sticks.

But it's pointless. We simply do what Matt tells us to do tomorrow.

 

[kappa96]

It has everything to do with the jailer. Not coordinating the jail with Matt was terrible. And I disliked it.

But let's say you are right and it didn't have anything to do with the jailer. What exactly would that mean?

Seems like you are trying to put attention on someone and ser if it sticks.

But it's pointless. We simply do what Matt tells us to do tomorrow.

You seem certain he didn't coordonated. I guess you find Matt pretty incompetent.
Why did you vote some time, during day 2, for Snobist, when you know one of he and Matt are the bg?
What's your reasoning for that.

On the bold part I agree .
Edit : Probing potential g's for answers is never pointless for the C's.

 

[Alen]

But I'm sorry i have to say you are the most likely to be G for the simple fact that if osman were a C he would have been autolynched especially since g's didn't score any kills today. I know as a G i would not have accepted a midgame replacement.

I was asked 3 hours and 10 minutes before deadline if I'd like to replace Osman, who was feeling a terrible neck pain and could hardly write. (I think it's harmless if I show a screenshot of this? @piotrr ?)
The very first thing I asked was this: "If you're a C, isn't it smarter to be autolynched? And if you're a G and I replace you, everyone will know my role". Osman didn't even reply to this.
I asked Piotrr then what's Osman's role and that if I replace him, it makes no sense to do it if he's a G and if Osman's a C he should be autolynched. It was in the middle of the day, so Piotrr didn't want to tell me Osman's role. He just told me that the game is so complicated atm, that it will be a huge advantage to the opposite team of Osman's, no matter Osman's role.
Then I accepted, but I didn't know the role until 10 minutes after Piotrr announced I'm replacing Osman.

All this happened to a word. Of course, you have no way of knowing what Osman's role was

This post is the one that jumps out the most in the trying too hard dept

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/mafia-2020-v2-the-fanatic.44297/page-93#post-6133343

Actually, all Ronn's attacks on Kappa were extremely suspicious, but I can't decide the reason why he concentrated so hard on Kappa, even though he knew that he's dead meat and it was a matter of minutes before everyone realized he was a G.

Now, I wonder why did Ronn do that. I have two possible explanations.
1. Ronn concentrated his last attacks on Kappa, so once he died, everyone would think that Kappa must be a civilian [while Kappa is actually a G].
2. Ronn used reverse psychology so people would think #1, while Kappa is actually a C.

It's one of these two for sure.
I'm wondering if Ronn was capable of #2, or if he was told by someone more experienced to do what he did.
And the more experienced player... I can think of only two capable of this - you and Hoori.

 

[king Ale]

Osman (now Alen, who is honestly kind of disturbing for me to have back in the game as I get paranoid in his presence) might have been recruited but I really doubt he can be an original G after what we learned today:

1) like i said before the voting ended today, if Chocolate is a C, Osman would not have defended him on day 1 if he was a G (Chocolate was going to be a lynch target on day 2. His suspicious gif that was picked up by radekas was like the last words by a G. Osman came to his defense saying that it's a gif Chocolate is using all the time). This had made me think that both Chocolate and Osman are Gs. Now that we know Chocolate is a C, it makes no sense for Osman to be a G at that time.

2- Osman, as an original G, wouldn't have missed out on the opportunity of recruiting ALC.

He might have been recruited though. If the original G team doesn't have any experienced player (as it is a very likely scenario), it is possible that they asked for recruitment of Gordo (any time after day 1, when they realized he was investigated), or me (any time after day 2, when they realized I was investigated), Osman (any time really), or just a random person who they thought might be the lawyer or jailer (before we learned about ALC). These are all speculations and we cannot know for sure (except that I know I am a civilian), but this is really game over for the Gs, not mathematically but the weirdest things have to happen for them to win (not saying you should surrender, we are having fun ). As long as we don't forget to investigate we'll be fine. As Sidd mentioned, now that the recruiter is gone, those who turn out to be Cs at this point are sure Cs so even by finding out about sure Cs we are increasing our chances of lynching Gs.

 

[Snobist]

Osman (now Alen, who is honestly kind of disturbing for me to have back in the game as I get paranoid in his presence) might have been recruited but I really doubt he can be an original G after what we learned today:

1) like i said before the voting ended today, if Chocolate is a C, Osman would not have defended him on day 1 if he was a G (Chocolate was going to be a lynch target on day 2. His suspicious gif that was picked up by radekas was like the last words by a G. Osman came to his defense saying that it's a gif Chocolate is using all the time). This had made me think that both Chocolate and Osman are Gs. Now that we know Chocolate is a C, it makes no sense for Osman to be a G at that time.

2- Osman, as an original G, wouldn't have missed out on the opportunity of recruiting ALC.

He might have been recruited though. If the original G team doesn't have any experienced player (as it is a very likely scenario), it is possible that they asked for recruitment of Gordo (any time after day 1, when they realized he was investigated), or me (any time after day 2, when they realized I was investigated), Osman (any time really), or just a random person who they thought might be the lawyer or jailer (before we learned about ALC). These are all speculations and we cannot know for sure (except that I know I am a civilian), but this is really game over for the Gs, not mathematically but the weirdest things have to happen for them to win (not saying you should surrender, we are having fun ). As long as we don't forget to investigate we'll be fine. As Sidd mentioned, now that the recruiter is gone, those who turn out to be Cs at this point are sure Cs so even by finding out about sure Cs we are increasing our chances of lynching Gs.

Mr Choco is a 100% C.

 

[Alen]

Mr Choco is a 100% C.

And we know this because of you

 

[IliveForJuve]

Osman (now Alen, who is honestly kind of disturbing for me to have back in the game as I get paranoid in his presence) might have been recruited but I really doubt he can be an original G after what we learned today:

1) like i said before the voting ended today, if Chocolate is a C, Osman would not have defended him on day 1 if he was a G (Chocolate was going to be a lynch target on day 2. His suspicious gif that was picked up by radekas was like the last words by a G. Osman came to his defense saying that it's a gif Chocolate is using all the time). This had made me think that both Chocolate and Osman are Gs. Now that we know Chocolate is a C, it makes no sense for Osman to be a G at that time.

2- Osman, as an original G, wouldn't have missed out on the opportunity of recruiting ALC.

He might have been recruited though. If the original G team doesn't have any experienced player (as it is a very likely scenario), it is possible that they asked for recruitment of Gordo (any time after day 1, when they realized he was investigated), or me (any time after day 2, when they realized I was investigated), Osman (any time really), or just a random person who they thought might be the lawyer or jailer (before we learned about ALC). These are all speculations and we cannot know for sure (except that I know I am a civilian), but this is really game over for the Gs, not mathematically but the weirdest things have to happen for them to win (not saying you should surrender, we are having fun ). As long as we don't forget to investigate we'll be fine. As Sidd mentioned, now that the recruiter is gone, those who turn out to be Cs at this point are sure Cs so even by finding out about sure Cs we are increasing our chances of lynching Gs.

But did they even know who the jailer was by the time recruitment probably took place?

Besides, nobody in their right mind would've recruited ALC. He did everything he could to look like a G and get lynched.

 

[Alen]

But did they even know who the jailer was by the time recruitment probably took place?

Gs had absolutely no need to recruit anyone in day 1 or day 2. It's almost sure they recruited today, perhaps yesterday.

Even if all original Gs were complete Snobists, I doubt they recruited early.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Gs had absolutely no need to recruit anyone in day 1 or day 2. It's almost sure they recruited today, perhaps yesterday.

Even if all original Gs were complete Snobists, I doubt they recruited early.

That is also what I've been thinking. They probably didn't have any need to recruit early in the game seeing that we were just going randomly after C's. It's possible were just letting us kill each other before recruiting.

Waiting to recruit allowed them a bigger pool of "confirmed C's" to choose too.

I'm agreeing with Osman's replacement tho

 

[king Ale]

Mr Choco is a 100% C.

Exactly and he will remain a C. Because he is a civilian, I doubt Osman was an original G.

But did they even know who the jailer was by the time recruitment probably took place?

Besides, nobody in their right mind would've recruited ALC. He did everything he could to look like a G and get lynched.

They knew it after Matt revealed his role and the results of the investigations. Unless they had recruited before, I really can't see Osman letting go of the opportunity to recruit ALC. And regardless of how ALC played, if recruited, he had the power to jail Matt and let the Gs kill Snobist. That would mean 0 additional investigations for us.

 

[IliveForJuve]

But did they even know who the jailer was by the time recruitment probably took place?

Besides, nobody in their right mind would've recruited ALC. He did everything he could to look like a G and get lynched.

Just checked.

ALC only confirmed he was the jailer on Friday night, during night time. The next day, he was the primary suspect and got lynched right away. That's why I don't see how anyone would ever recruit ALC.

 

[Snobist]

And we know this because of you

Do you have better sources? No.

 

[king Ale]

Gs had absolutely no need to recruit anyone in day 1 or day 2. It's almost sure they recruited today, perhaps yesterday.

Even if all original Gs were complete Snobists, I doubt they recruited early.

Don't you feel some sort of identity crisis? G or C, you probably would have played this game differently from Osman, I have a hard time understanding if you are saying these from your point of view or you have adopted and adapted to Osman's style of play

 

[Alen]

Do you have better sources? No.

I am genuinely admiring you. No sarcasm.