Mafia 2016 - مافيا ۲۰۱۶ (2 Viewers)
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According to Fred (if I got it correctly) Alen was pulling a maneuver to have the Gs whack somebody who he was protecting but they whacked him instead.
Regarding D-role Hofferboffer said
http://www.juventuz.com/threads/42636-Mafia-2016-مافيا-۲۰۱۶?p=5329972&viewfull=1#post5329972
Like why would you not investigate some experienced player to gain more intel than from investigating a noob? He said he panicked and acted 5 min til deadline but I'm reluctant to understand why he would look into you
And well, at this point I suspect pretty much every veteran is lying like crazy, even the experienced Cs, being it only to trick Gs into something.
There is some behind the lines shit going down
Regarding D-role Hofferboffer said
http://www.juventuz.com/threads/42636-Mafia-2016-مافيا-۲۰۱۶?p=5329972&viewfull=1#post5329972
Like why would you not investigate some experienced player to gain more intel than from investigating a noob? He said he panicked and acted 5 min til deadline but I'm reluctant to understand why he would look into you
And well, at this point I suspect pretty much every veteran is lying like crazy, even the experienced Cs, being it only to trick Gs into something.
There is some behind the lines shit going down
Holy shit balls!
Alen :sergoi:
Meat Curtains :sergoi:
Mohad and Völler :sergoi:
I got the day off, so I'll post my view on this later (after the gym).
And for crying out loud: STAY FUCKING HIDDEN JAILOR. OTHERWISE GAME OVER.
/Team C
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Damn.. reading thru events last nite.
As always Alen's ego is his downfall :sergoi:
Kate is the most active I've ever seen.
Völler is right. Mohad seems to the ability to understand.
I'm fucken baffled why hængebøffer would leave the closet today? He'll be targetted today unles jailed, but then he'll be targetted tomorrow, and now the G's can recruit the lawyer/jailor with a far bigger chance. I understand the desperation to some extent. But damn.. why would the G's know who the D was?
Well I'll go thru the pages even more thoroughly later.
Alen :sergoi:
Meat Curtains :sergoi:
Mohad and Völler :sergoi:
I got the day off, so I'll post my view on this later (after the gym).
And for crying out loud: STAY FUCKING HIDDEN JAILOR. OTHERWISE GAME OVER.
/Team C
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Damn.. reading thru events last nite.
As always Alen's ego is his downfall :sergoi:
Kate is the most active I've ever seen.
Völler is right. Mohad seems to the ability to understand.
I'm fucken baffled why hængebøffer would leave the closet today? He'll be targetted today unles jailed, but then he'll be targetted tomorrow, and now the G's can recruit the lawyer/jailor with a far bigger chance. I understand the desperation to some extent. But damn.. why would the G's know who the D was?
Well I'll go thru the pages even more thoroughly later.
@Hængebøffer
Why would you reveal yourself? What could you possibly stand to gain from a stunt like that?
How could they possibly have pinpointed you from the information you provided? Granted it is very plausible but you coming out really has no advantages, as Maddy already mentioned now youll most certainly be whacked within the next 2 days.
Plus, how can we be so sure? Could this not be a ploy to gain 2 more days of C whacking and confusion among ourselves?
Anyway, im surprised Alen got whacked, i thought for sure hed protect himself. Yes Voller (I believe) did point out that its very rare for Gs to whack the BG in quick succession but when you find out who the BG after day 1 it makes perfect sense to try again as you do not want to whack prematurely and lose the chance of recruiting some good roles.
I'll break it down:
1) The G's have a crooked cop who has the ability to snoop. Snooping means finding out who the detective investigated.
2) Hængebøffer investigated Cullagazio on day one
3) Who has been after Hængebøffer the whole game? Cullagazio. He has been suspicious of him because of his sudden vacation.
4) For that reason, the G's will obviously suspect of Hængebøffer being the detecive. Because why would anyone else investigate Cullagazio of all people?
Well, it's technically possible that Hængebøffer is a G trying to lure out the real detective. That said, I don't believe so. But if that's the case, the detective should stay hidden, unless he got several G's investigated.
The reason I don't believe Hængebøffer is faking is this:
1) Why sacrifice yourself as a G when you got the whole situation under control.
2) What would the G's (including Hængebøffer) be gaining by claiming X and Collaguazo are C's? It's not like Hængebøffer is asking us all to follow him now. He doesn't have any information that makes the situation different for us. Fred was always going to be the most obvious lynch choice today, no matter what.
3) Hængebøffer will die tomorrow night if he's the detective. If not, it's not like he managed to manipulate us into voting for someone else.
1) The G's have a crooked cop who has the ability to snoop. Snooping means finding out who the detective investigated.
2) Hængebøffer investigated Cullagazio on day one
3) Who has been after Hængebøffer the whole game? Cullagazio. He has been suspicious of him because of his sudden vacation.
4) For that reason, the G's will obviously suspect of Hængebøffer being the detecive. Because why would anyone else investigate Cullagazio of all people?
Well, it's technically possible that Hængebøffer is a G trying to lure out the real detective. That said, I don't believe so. But if that's the case, the detective should stay hidden, unless he got several G's investigated.
The reason I don't believe Hængebøffer is faking is this:
1) Why sacrifice yourself as a G when you got the whole situation under control.
2) What would the G's (including Hængebøffer) be gaining by claiming X and Collaguazo are C's? It's not like Hængebøffer is asking us all to follow him now. He doesn't have any information that makes the situation different for us. Fred was always going to be the most obvious lynch choice today, no matter what.
3) Hængebøffer will die tomorrow night if he's the detective. If not, it's not like he managed to manipulate us into voting for someone else.
See this is my problem. Why would anyone ever investigate someone just 'cause they are suspicious of you?
And why would an experienced player want to find out the role of a confused newbie day 1?
Why not pick Alen, Osman, Fred, X etc.; all players likely to be any detectives candidate day 1? By investigating Colla you make yourself a target for the G's if they snoop in the results.
I'm sorry but I can't make heads or tails of hængebøffers choices. They make zero sense to me. Either he's playing us or he's not up to his usual game.
And why would an experienced player want to find out the role of a confused newbie day 1?
Why not pick Alen, Osman, Fred, X etc.; all players likely to be any detectives candidate day 1? By investigating Colla you make yourself a target for the G's if they snoop in the results.
I'm sorry but I can't make heads or tails of hængebøffers choices. They make zero sense to me. Either he's playing us or he's not up to his usual game.
This reminds me of my first game when I was the D. I suspected Maddy hard and investigated him on the 1st night. I realised on day 2 that this most likely meant that the Gs know me now. Then the Tomice-gate happened and I was sure. I had to reveal myself. So I kind of understand Soren at this point.
BUT
There are some key differences between his and mine situation.
Firstly when it happened to me, the BG was still in the game and nobody knew who it was. Revealing myself was the only way to save my skin (it failed because of the Jailer though
). Secondly I had a really valid information for the Cs, which is that Tomice is almost certainly a G.
Now Soren revealing himself doesn't save him. The whole "Gs know who I am" was an educated guess. It might be true but it wasn't 100% certain unless the Gs tried to lure Soren into a trap like they tried with me in that game.
Soren revealing himself doesn't give us any Gs too, unless Soren has some more information which he is still hiding.
Generally speaking there wasn't much to gain when Soren revealed himself. The only possibly real and important information is confirming X and Colla as Cs. I don't think that's enough for the D to reveal himself.
BUT
There are some key differences between his and mine situation.
Firstly when it happened to me, the BG was still in the game and nobody knew who it was. Revealing myself was the only way to save my skin (it failed because of the Jailer though
). Secondly I had a really valid information for the Cs, which is that Tomice is almost certainly a G. Now Soren revealing himself doesn't save him. The whole "Gs know who I am" was an educated guess. It might be true but it wasn't 100% certain unless the Gs tried to lure Soren into a trap like they tried with me in that game.
Soren revealing himself doesn't give us any Gs too, unless Soren has some more information which he is still hiding.
Generally speaking there wasn't much to gain when Soren revealed himself. The only possibly real and important information is confirming X and Colla as Cs. I don't think that's enough for the D to reveal himself.