Mafia 2016 - مافيا ۲۰۱۶ (3 Viewers)

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
It's weekend in here, BIAAACH!
I'll try one last time. But I almost don't know where to start with your post.

Let's start with day 1:

With like 10 minutes to go, me and Sadd both have the same amount of votes. I end up getting saved by Tomice, a C, just before deadline. Don't you think it's a bit odd that a G didn't save me before?

Day 2:
Alen, the bodyguard, is the one who decides it should be a three way tie between me, Kate and Tomice. It's not, as you say, well-planned that Tomice should be killed off. Kate needs to vote on one of Tomice and me to save her own ass. That goes without saying. Otherwise, she risks getting lynched herself. I see her voting on Tomice and know I need to vote on Tomice myself because his only chance of getting saved is voting on me (which he did). If I don't vote on Tomice there, I'm ending in a tie. I have no other options. And notice that I have done EVERYTHING throughout the day to avoid voting on Tomice. But since Alen put me in that situation, I obviously don't have any other choices. And no, it wasn't planned. It was Alen's choice to make it a three-way tie.

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Because he voted for me. By now we know that at least one of you, Fred or Osman are a G.
He voted for you? How does that change anything?

So? The BG wouldn't be pm'ing all the time.
You said you had investigated X and Colluziago. Alen is the BG. What are you talking about?

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By now we know that at least one of you, Fred or Osman are a G.
Fred needs to go tomorrow, without a doubt. Osman was completely inactive today, which kind of saves him for now. The other options were Fred and X, but Fred is the one of the two most likely to go for Alen twice in a row. Also, Alen suspected Fred and Osman the most.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
I'll try one last time. But I almost don't know where to start with your post.

Let's start with day 1:

With like 10 minutes to go, me and Sadd both have the same amount of votes. I end up getting saved by Tomice, a C, just before deadline. Don't you think it's a bit odd that a G didn't save me before?

Day 2:
Alen, the bodyguard, is the one who decides it should be a three way tie between me, Kate and Tomice. It's not, as you say, well-planned that Tomice should be killed off. Kate needs to vote on one of Tomice and me to save her own ass. That goes without saying. Otherwise, she risks getting lynched herself. I see her voting on Tomice and know I need to vote on Tomice myself because his only chance of getting saved is voting on me (which he did). If I don't vote on Tomice there, I'm ending in a tie. I have no other options. And notice that I have done EVERYTHING throughout the day to avoid voting on Tomice. But since Alen put me in that situation, I obviously don't have any other choices. And no, it wasn't planned. It was Alen's choice to make it a three-way tie.

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He voted for you? How does that change anything?



You said you had investigated X and Colluziago. Alen is the BG. What are you talking about?
Alen was sure the crooked cop investigated and an experienced player would pick up on it.

What don't you understand? I investigated Colla on the first day, cause I thought he was the BG.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Alen was sure the crooked cop investigated and an experienced player would pick up on it.

What don't you understand? I investigated Colla on the first day, cause I thought he was the BG.
You said X and Colla, I assumed that was the order of your investigations. But ok. :tup:

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Alen was sure the crooked cop investigated and an experienced player would pick up on it.
I might be too tired, but can you elaborate this part?

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Ah, you mean that Colla voted on you, of course. I get it! :D

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Yeah, Alen is right.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
You said X and Colla, I assumed that was the order of your investigations. But ok. :tup:

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I might be too tired, but can you elaborate this part?
Colla voted for me and I was stupid enough to investigate him. I didn't think the crooked cop would do anything on the first day, but Alen was sure of it. He's a much better player, so I guess he was right (I'm still not sure). I wasn't able to check this thread often today, so I really don't know what went on today.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Colla voted for me and I was stupid enough to investigate him. I didn't think the crooked cop would do anything on the first day, but Alen was sure of it. He's a much better player, so I guess he was right (I'm still not sure). I wasn't able to check this thread often today, so I really don't know what went on today.
I already figured out (embarrassingly late though). :D

The crooked cop investigates the first day for sure, unless it's a noob who didn't know what to do.
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
6,709
I'll try one last time. But I almost don't know where to start with your post.

Let's start with day 1:

With like 10 minutes to go, me and Sadd both have the same amount of votes. I end up getting saved by Tomice, a C, just before deadline. Don't you think it's a bit odd that a G didn't save me before?

Day 2:
Alen, the bodyguard, is the one who decides it should be a three way tie between me, Kate and Tomice. It's not, as you say, well-planned that Tomice should be killed off. Kate needs to vote on one of Tomice and me to save her own ass. That goes without saying. Otherwise, she risks getting lynched herself. I see her voting on Tomice and know I need to vote on Tomice myself because his only chance of getting saved is voting on me (which he did). If I don't vote on Tomice there, I'm ending in a tie. I have no other options. And notice that I have done EVERYTHING throughout the day to avoid voting on Tomice. But since Alen put me in that situation, I obviously don't have any other choices. And no, it wasn't planned. It was Alen's choice to make it a three-way tie.
You were just lucky, plus you are trying too hard using Alen's thoughts as an excuse. You and Kate are the main suspects, the other two are being very cold in the game, I will keep an eye at them to see their next vote.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
You were just lucky, plus you are trying too hard using Alen's thoughts as an excuse. You and Kate are the main suspects, the other two are being very cold in the game, I will keep an eye at them to see their next vote.
So the G's were just planning to let me die?

I hope you're a G, but I fear you're not. Can't believe I have to defend myself still. Mohad, please try reading the thread again with open eyes.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
It's normal one of you to be at risk. ;)
I miss Janna.

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@Mohad, can you at least see that you've had quite a few different theories about me being a G so far? And each of them have been wrong. And every time one of them is wrong, you just find a new theory. Instead of assuming I'm a G, please consider the option that I'm not.

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I'm not saying you should trust me as a C. I'm saying that you should keep an open mind.
 

Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
Lol. I can't help you. It's my fault we're losing. And I honestly haven't followed enough to know what's happening. I shouldn't have played, but didn't think I would get a role like this.
 

Collaguazo

Pezuña Brava
Mar 4, 2012
3,610
Okay now I am back home with a good internet connection. Now like a good self respecting Ecuatoriano that leaves it all until the last minute, I am gonna read the mafia for noobies thread. Be right back with my thoughts.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
I'll try to make a breakdown, so the new players will understand:

1) The G's trying to whack the Bodyguard two days in a row is a strange thing to do. The normal thing would be to assume that the bodyguard protects himself both days, and for that reason whacking him two times normally wouldn't make sense.
2) For that reason it's obvious that (at least one of) the G's are experienced and knew Alen well enough to know what he would do.
3) I'd say that Osman, Fred and X are the three people who know Alen the best. You shouldn't rule me out either, but I think everyone who played mafia here here knows that I haven't played as many games with Alen as Osman, Fred and X.
4) Also, Alen mentioned specifically that he was suspicious of Osman and Fred: http://www.juventuz.com/threads/42636-Mafia-2016-مافيا-۲۰۱۶?p=5328607#post5328607
4) X was investigated as a civilian by Hængebøffer (the detective) today. That rules him out as a gangster.
5) Osman was inactive the whole day. I don't think he avoided the thread on purpose while instructing the G's behind the scenes. It is possible that he's a G and instructed the rest of the G's last night though. Still, seems very early to take such a big decision though. It would make more sense to wait a bit and look at how Alen plays on day 2.
6) That leaves me with Fred. While not being super suspicious in general, he fits the bill, and - unlike X and Osman - nothing speaks against him.

That's why I'm definitely going to vote on Fred tomorrow.
 

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